Why did Jay Toia REALLY Leave USC for UCLA?

I commented earlier today on the TDB that Jay Toia in all likelihood left USC for UCLA because he thought he made a mistake signing with USC and liked the Bruins more, hence the quick switch to Westwood.

I’ve just received some very solid info IMO, that would indicate I was totally incorrect.

I’ve now been told by an incredible USC football source that Toia (93) left USC because an “uncle” of his demanded the switch to UCLA, and is apparently so powerful within the family that Toia moved over to UCLA because of this intense pressure — even though Toia really liked his experience at USC, did NOT want to leave, and also likes Clay Helton very much.

I know this may sound incredulous, and is too vague to lend any credence to for many (or may just sound like sour grapes), but I was also told that Toia literally had tears in his eyes when informing Helton of his decision to leave.

I can’t comment with any further facts about Toia’s departure situation other than to say what I have recounted above — that he was forced to leave by an “uncle” within his family, believe it or not.

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LawyerJohn
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LawyerJohn (@lawyerjohn)
June 9, 2021 8:33 pm

I see the blog has turned into a travelogue. I recall Kauai’s Coco Palms Resort and surfing its beach until my wife cried “Shark,” and I flew out of the water. Coco Palms disappeared after the flood. I stick to Waikiki– the Royal Hawaiian for the better half, and the warm waters and easy rollers for me And yes, it is amazing how the public likes to mystify certain matters– JFK’s death being at the top of the list. Why can’t Oswald have been operating alone– it’s not like he needed an accomplice. But imagining Oswald with sidekicks makes the… Read more »

Petero
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Petero (@petero)
June 10, 2021 12:07 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

I lived in Hawaii during 70’s/80’s Had a Jewelry store in the old International Market place Wakiki. Along with business on most of the outer Islands. Wonderful time to live there. Coconut head injury’s are by no means a myth. A few deaths a year were common then. I lived on the beach in an area known as Laniki on windward coast. When hurricane Iwa hit the Islands 1982 I remember clearly the night it came ashore. We would hear loud crashes in the night, frightening. Day break we viewed the damage to our home and neighbors. Coconuts had caused… Read more »

Petero
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Petero (@petero)
June 10, 2021 1:13 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Coconut trimming is a big business at the resorts and restaurants. They have it down. Concerning the ‘uncle’ involved in transfer. Think about how often you hear of a poly player being a cousin of another.the uncle rises in each family group is the leader until challenged he has responsibilitie to keep culture together. I was president of a top 5 national VB CLUB in SD early 2000’s our star player had offers to every college power house, was a niece to Junior. We had her on club scholarship then about 4k. She wanted to leave to a super club… Read more »

Golden Trojan
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Golden Trojan (@golden-trojan)
June 10, 2021 8:44 am
Reply to  LawyerJohn

Oswald was trying to kill Texas governor John Connally. Connally, who, when he was secretary of the Navy, rejected a petition from Oswald to reverse his dishonorable discharge from the Marine Corps. Oswald hated Connally after that. Oswald got off 3 shots as the car was moving away, one hit Connally in the back, the other 2 hit Kennedy (not the intended target). As simple as a lone nut job with a gun.

Golden Trojan
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Golden Trojan (@golden-trojan)
June 10, 2021 8:48 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

I am sure the elites on Tonga are drooling over the potential payday Jay Toia is going to get. His “uncle” may be able to rise in the ranks with a nice bankroll. The place looks pretty corrupt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga

TireBiter
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TireBiter (@tirebiter)
June 9, 2021 12:12 pm

Living in Hawaii, I 100% believe that story.

TireBiter
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TireBiter (@tirebiter)
June 9, 2021 12:33 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

A lot of times within big, tight-knit Poly families, you do what you’re told. Not saying that’s what happened here but possible.

TMC4USC
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TMC4USC (@tmc4usc)
June 9, 2021 1:00 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

In Polynesian families, the term “uncle” or “aunty” does not necessarily mean a blood relative. Rather it could be used to describe a very influential or beloved person to the family.

Terrific Tommy
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Terrific Tommy (@terrific-tommy)
June 9, 2021 1:27 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Me too — it so beautiful and compared to other more visited islands, Kauai is quiet too. (Does that sound like you and I are aging faster than we’d like? 😥)

UtahTrojan
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UtahTrojan (@utahtrojan)
June 9, 2021 1:43 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

I love Kauai too, but I would put Maui with it. I have been in the ground, on the water and flown over both and find both islands so amazing. Even though Maui has more traffic I have never had a hard time ditching the crowds on hikes or doing the downhill bike ride early in the morning. now for Toia, I agree with what has been said above as far as influences within Poly families. I got to know quite a few in high school and there can be very powerful people within a family. The real question is… Read more »

TrojanRJJ
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TrojanRJJ (@trojanrjj)
June 9, 2021 9:35 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Allen, Don’t you think the problem with the transfer is the condition of SC Football, not the transfer. Losing one kid should not matter that much unless your program is in real trouble. Jay was very much a canary in the coal mine.

volunteerTrojan
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volunteerTrojan (@volunteertrojan)
June 9, 2021 4:10 pm
Reply to  UtahTrojan

I honeymooned there 30 years ago, so naturally it holds fond memories for me along those lines. 8 years ago, I accepted a job whose corp HQ is in Honolulu, and since then, my wife and I have flown over to the Islands around 65 times. It never gets old, flying from parched brown LA to tropically lush HI. Looking forward to emerging totally from covid and getting back over there soon. Allen, we’ve stayed in the 3 more popular areas of Kauai numerous times, but enjoy Princeville the most. We have a cliff-side condo we favor. Pretty much bliss… Read more »

volunteerTrojan
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volunteerTrojan (@volunteertrojan)
June 9, 2021 4:39 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

We were there 2 years ago, and they had a bad Spring flood that took some beach homes off of their foundation. We could only get down to Hanalei Bay. The road out to Ke’e Beach and the Na Pali trail-head were closed as the road was washed out. Should be open by now.

Steveg
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Steveg (@steveg)
June 10, 2021 4:30 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Don’t pass up Bubba’s Burgers in Kapaa and other spots. Love that joint.

volunteerTrojan
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volunteerTrojan (@volunteertrojan)
June 10, 2021 7:47 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

And if the mood for pizza strikes, try Brick Oven Pizza in Kalaheo. You’re sure to find a CA license plate on the ceiling.

ATL D.D.S.
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ATL D.D.S. (@atl-d-d-s)
June 10, 2021 7:28 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Met my long-term Georgia peach wife 35 years ago at what was the Sheraton at Princeville. Has worked out much better than marriage #1 of only 18 months. Both gals have the same first name….

Good things happen in Hawaii. I miss being able to go out there. It’s like a 12 hour flight from Atlanta.

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TrojanRJJ
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TrojanRJJ (@trojanrjj)
June 9, 2021 9:30 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

I like Kauai but prefer Kaanapali in Maui. I still remember when my family took our first big vacation to the islands. We flew out of LAX via props. I think it took about 14 hours. We went to Oahu and Kauai. I remember flying into Lihue over cane fields- I thought we were going to land in the cane. I love Hanalei. We spent a week in Princeville about 20 years ago. Went to lunch daily in Hanalei. The water cascading off the mountain overlooking Hanalei was spectacular. Went back five years ago and all it did was rain!… Read more »

Steveg
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Steveg (@steveg)
June 10, 2021 4:26 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

I’ll be there in November. Save me some mai tai’s.