USC Sits Atop the Coaching Carousel

College football coaching grades: Which school aced the hiring spree?

College football’s new coaching faces in new places (from left): Miami’s Mario Cristobal, USC’s Lincoln Riley, LSU’s Brian Kelly and Florida’s Billy Napier. (Los Angeles Times; AP)

J. Brady McCollough (LA Times)  —  USC started the coaching carousel early this fall when it sent Clay Helton packing after Week 2. Nobody, not even the most imaginative college football observer, could have predicted what was to come, as nine of the top 20 head coaching jobs in the sport would open — the latest this week at Oregon, where athletic director Rob Mullens is in search of a replacement for Mario Cristobal.

So, how did this happen? For starters, things went south very quickly at Louisiana State, Florida and Washington, which was unexpected. Then USC and LSU maneuvered to make splash hires and played their cards right to steal proven coaches from blue-blood programs Oklahoma and Notre Dame, respectively. Then Miami finally found its window and the immense resources to bring Cristobal home to his mother and his football mothership at “The U.”

This carousel could have been even wilder had Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Virginia Tech, Texas Tech and Washington State hired head coaches instead of coordinators.

Maybe the early signing period, which starts Dec. 15, was partly to blame. Maybe it was athletic directors and university presidents who were eager to chart new courses after having to hold firm after the 2020 season because of the pandemic. Maybe it was general unrest created because of the conference realignment spurred by Texas and Oklahoma moving to the Southeastern Conference. Or maybe it was just a beautiful confluence of events across a sport where increasingly it feels as if there are no rules, written or unwritten.

The result of it all will be the most intriguing college football regular season possibly ever in 2022, with the whole country following each week to see who’s a stud or a dud in their new posts. Here’s my first attempt at grading the 11 hires made so far by Power Five schools:

A Grade Hire

Lincoln Riley, USC: At the start of the weekend after Thanksgiving, the USC fan base was clinging to the hope that USC athletic director Mike Bohn could complete a deal for Iowa State coach Matt Campbell. Cincinnati’s Luke Fickell appeared to be staying put, rumors were circulating Baylor and Dave Aranda were working on an extension and, as the days went on without USC announcing Campbell, true trepidation was setting in among the faithful. Then came Sunday afternoon.

The Trojans shook the college football universe by announcing they had hired Lincoln Riley from Oklahoma, where he had led the Sooners to three College Football Playoff semifinal appearances and tutored two Heisman Trophy-winning quarterbacks. Given the misery of USC fans the past three years of the Helton era, Bohn could not have made a more thrilling statement that things were about to change for the better — and quickly.

Riley is a dogged recruiter known for closing commitments on both sides of the ball, and he is right to believe he can build the country’s most talented roster from right here in Southern California. Now the hard work begins, but there’s a strong sense Riley could make it look easy.

The only reason this grade isn’t an A+ is that L.A. is a town that pays attention only to championships, and Riley has yet to climb that mountain. The great news? He gets to keep trying to do it right here.

A- Grade Hire

Miami’s Mario Cristobal speaks at his introductory news conference Tuesday. (Lynne Sladky / AP)

 

 

 

 

Mario Cristobal, MiamiWelp, this is what Oregon gets for hiring a coach whose love for his mother, his hometown and his alma mater knows no bounds. That said, the Ducks were put in a tough situation after Willie Taggart left for Florida State after one season, and Cristobal put in legitimate work building the program’s foundation back, brick by brick, while winning 35 games and one legitimate Pac-12 championship in four seasons.

But Eugene never seemed like the long-term play for Cristobal. The pull of Miami was always going to be there for him, and the timing was finally right for both sides with the Hurricanes floundering under Manny Diaz and Utah reminding Cristobal twice in three weeks just how far the Ducks still have to go before they can truly compete for a national championship.

This grade could be an A because of the perfect cultural fit and Cristobal’s proven ability to develop a physical backbone within a Power Five program and to recruit the best athletes in the country to play within that philosophy. While he had to raid Southern California to bring in top talent at Oregon, he won’t have to leave a 60-mile radius to do so in South Florida.

Cristobal registers as an A-minus because he has routinely struggled with game management to the Ducks’ detriment, something he will have to improve to get Miami back to where it feels it belongs.

B+ Grade Hires

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Billy Napier, Florida: A year after competing for a spot in the playoff, Florida’s erosion under Dan Mullen became so glaring that athletic director Scott Stricklin had to make a move on Mullen, whom he also worked with at Mississippi State. The main issue seemed to be his recruiting; while the Gators had classes in the top 10 nationally, they did not have one class under Mullen that finished in the top three in the SEC. If you don’t recruit successfully in that conference, you eventually fall behind.

Stricklin immediately focused on Louisiana’s Billy Napier, who led the Cajuns to back-to-back Sun Belt championships and was a hot name the last few coaching carousels who elected to stay put and wait for the right job. Napier’s patience paid off with the keys to a program that can win national championships when it has the right coach in place but shockingly struggles when it doesn’t.

While LSU was reportedly swinging for the fences for a big name, Florida dropped its pin on Napier, who has been right under the Tigers’ nose for four seasons, and got its guy. This grade honors the efficiency and clean execution in securing an enticing coach who appears ready for the big time.

Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame: When Brian Kelly bolted for LSU, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick did not need to hit the panic button. Sure, Kelly had just passed Knute Rockne on the school’s all-time wins list and had brought the program stability it hadn’t seen since Lou Holtz paced the sidelines. And his exit came as a major shock, particularly as the Irish needed only a few upsets on championship Saturday to make their third CFP semifinal appearance in four seasons.

But Kelly’s sudden exit could have been catastrophic if Swarbrick had conducted a national search, dragging out toward early signing day, and ended up with the wrong guy (and, let’s be honest, so many have been wrong in South Bend until Kelly). Kelly figured something out about navigating this incomparable challenge, and the hope is that much of that knowledge was passed to Freeman, Notre Dame’s defensive coordinator, in the last year.

The 35-year-old Freeman has been a big part of Notre Dame’s recruiting renaissance, and naming him as Kelly’s successor should keep the Irish’s 2022 class, ranked No. 6 in the 247Sports.com composite rankings, largely intact. If Notre Dame is going to take the next step and win a playoff game, it can’t afford to start over in recruiting.

Of course, Freeman is a risk because he has never been a head coach. But if it becomes clear early he is in over his head, Swarbrick could then conduct that national search with proper preparation to get it right. Notre Dame does not have to make the same mistake that USC did with Helton, handcuffing itself to an overmatched interim-turned-permanent head coach for a damaging length of time.

And maybe Freeman will be an instant star. He does not have to rebuild, and, did you happen to see the reaction of Notre Dame players when they heard he was taking over? The excitement for the future in South Bend was palpable.

B Grade Hires

Brian Kelly is introduced as LSU’s head coach by university president William F. Tate IV, left, and athletic director Scott Woodward on Dec. 1. (Jonathan Bachman / Getty Images)

Brian Kelly, LSUI know, giving Notre Dame’s hiring of Freeman a better grade than LSU’s hiring of Kelly might seem absurd. I’m not saying that Freeman is a better coach than Kelly. I’m saying that, when taking into account the fit between coach and program and the coach’s chances to meet said program’s expectations, Freeman was a slightly better hire for the Fighting Irish at this moment in time than Kelly was for the Tigers.

From the second LSU let Ed Orgeron go, the buzz was that athletic director Scott Woodward, a Baton Rouge native, was going to reel in a big fish. Woodward brought Jimbo Fisher to Texas A&M by offering him financial stability beyond his wildest dreams, and, originally, the thinking was that he would just re-up with Fisher to bring him to LSU. That didn’t happen, and so then the buzz switched to Riley. When Riley chose to join USC, Woodward moved fast to convince Kelly that he had reached his ceiling at Notre Dame, that he owed himself one final shot in his 60s to reign over the sport.

Tigers fans should be happy about Kelly. He’s a proven winner, having compiled great success at Grand Valley State, Central Michigan, Cincinnati and then Notre Dame. But for some reason this move feels tinged with desperation from both sides; perhaps it’s because the stakes are so high at a place where national champion coaches are discarded like cheap Mardi Gras beads the morning after Fat Tuesday.

Kelly, born and raised in the Boston area, is the opposite of a cultural fit for Louisiana’s state capital. The uneasiness of the pairing was bare for the world to see last week when Kelly debuted his attempt at a Southern accent while giving a speech at an LSU men’s basketball game. Very quickly, the marriage between Kelly and LSU had become a joke, but, given Kelly’s coaching acumen, it is likely the Tigers will be taken seriously on the field soon enough under his leadership.

Kalen DeBoer, Washington: The Jimmy Lake era in Seattle was plagued by offensive ineptitude so pronounced it couldn’t save Lake’s predictably sound defense. Enter DeBoer, the Fresno State coach who steered one of the country’s most delectable offenses this season in leading the Bulldogs to a 9-3 record, which included a thrilling win over UCLA at the Rose Bowl.

DeBoer was attractive to Washington because he should be able to fix the Huskies’ offense — especially if he has the same kind of effect on highly-touted freshman quarterback Sam Huard as he did on former Washington transfer Jake Haener at Fresno State. It was baffling this season watching Lake stick with Dylan Morris for so long while Huard kept waiting for his chance to show what he can do.

DeBoer went 67-3 as the head coach of his alma mater, Sioux Falls (S.D.) of the NAIA, from 2005 to 2009. He led the program to three NAIA championships and has steadily risen up the profession since then. The Huskies are the most recent Pac-12 program to make the playoff, but in their current shape, any big swings were likely to be misses. There’s good reason to believe DeBoer has the chops, and he gets to enjoy the added jolt of Cristobal leaving Oregon.

B- Grade hire

(Sue Ogrocki / AP)

Brent Venables, Oklahoma: After processing the shock of losing Riley to USC, Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione and Bob Stoops, while serving as the interim head coach, decided to keep it in the Sooners family with a nod to Stoops’ early glory days in Norman when Venables was his defensive coordinator. The decision was well-received at OU, particularly among former players who saw the program going soft under Riley’s leadership and desired a return to tough-minded defense as the team’s hallmark as it prepares for the upcoming move to the SEC.

There is no debating Venables’ ability to coach defense after his decade at Clemson, helping Dabo Swinney and the Tigers to two national championships. Even this season as the Tigers went 9-3, Venables’ unit was as menacing as ever. Venables has spent his career watching legendary head coaches do their thing — Bill Snyder at Kansas State (as a player and assistant), Stoops and Swinney. Now it’s his turn to implement what he has learned, and it’s a logical assumption to make that he’s ready.

But something about this hire isn’t moving the needle. Maybe it’s the question of why it has taken this long for Venables to become a head coach after being a known commodity as a coordinator. Was he uninterested in running his own program until an amazing opportunity like this one came available, or were other schools put off by something and unable to take the plunge?

Venables will have to nail his offensive coordinator hire, and he very well might have done so with Mississippi offensive coordinator Jeff Lebby, an Oklahoma graduate. But even with Lebby there is a big question: How much credit should he get for Ole Miss’ offensive performance when Lane Kiffin is his boss?

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December 10, 2021 1:00 am
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With Choco Chip. Oregon gets a coach that has taken his teams to the very top on every level
An instant winner that will win the hearts of all he recruits/ NOT…he probably wears adidas Well its too late for Ucla to get on coaching carrousel, so they will make the coaching Hamster Wheel.. Chips more like a beaver than a Duck, but I guess Phil Knight doesn’t know his Oregonians I wish I could say I wish his teams well….But I don’t

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December 10, 2021 7:19 am
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This was the easy way out, it reminds me of Pat Haden as USC AD. It isn’t an improvement, in fact it is now considered a down grade. This doesn’t help the Pac12 much at all, and now ucla will have to scrounge around for a fill in that I am sure will not impress anyone. Perhaps Dorrell will be willing to come back.

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December 10, 2021 7:41 am
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My guess is UCLA goes after the SDSU coach Brady Hoke. He has done very well at the Aztecs. Not so well at Michigan, but that is very much in the rear view mirror. And, he is already in southern California.

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December 10, 2021 9:27 am
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Along with Hoke, Brent Brennan from San Jose is another name. It is hard to figure what ucla would do seeing they never make much sense anyway. I do think Chip has put a lot into building ucla and I am not sure he would want to go back and start over again. Of course working in the shadow of Lincoln Riley would make me want to leave.

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December 10, 2021 9:10 am
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Hoke is better suited for DC in the Power 5 than HC. He is doing okay as HC at SDSU but needs to find a better OC to perk up the Aztec offense.

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December 10, 2021 3:43 pm
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I really thought Rocky Long did a great job at SDSU. I wonder what really happened with him there. Isn’t he a DC somewhere else? New Mexico? Maybe it was a lifestyle change for him at his age

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December 10, 2021 8:54 am
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Chip definitely has the “Luck of the Irish” going for him. Talk about timing. He was already on the hot seat at UCLA with an extension definitely up in the air. His name meant nothing to big time recruits in So Cal, so don’t be suprised if he talks Donte into coming back to Oregon as his lead recruiter. He will cash in on his past performance and will probably buy himself at least five more years there when he might have only had one more here. I don’t blame him if he goes back. Who wouldn’t with those resources… Read more »

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December 10, 2021 9:12 am

At this point UCLA I would think would have to look at a fired NFL guy if they want a big name.

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December 10, 2021 3:39 pm
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I think the UCLA AD Jarmond is young and smart enough to know he needs to make a big splash to create a counter buzz to the SC hire. The current big guns have already moved or renegotiated for huge salary bumps, so maybe it will be an NFL guy. That’s kinda why I’m thinking they try and get Eric Bienemy if he doesn’t get one of the Pro openings coming up. Maybe Dan Quinn or Doug Petersen. I think the longer they take to announce it, the more likely they have to wait until the NFL season ends. That… Read more »

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December 11, 2021 2:45 pm
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Misinformation is circling the CFB World as the Atlanta Journal reports Lanning will be named Oregon HC on Monday.

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December 10, 2021 7:42 am
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It looks like Riley is being the rebuild. He is culling the recruits and the roster.

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December 10, 2021 8:25 am
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So far those that have left for the portal were never impressive to begin with so CLR is doing a great job of culling.

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December 10, 2021 7:14 am
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After the years we have spent being down and unable to be excited about Trojan football, I am really glad to see you so excited and happy. Times have sure changed.

San Diego Trojan
December 10, 2021 8:57 am
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I agree Allen, I’m suddenly excited about reading all the recruiting sites again in anticipation that we should be in every recruits top five going forward. I haven’t wanted to do that in years. If you were still in the recruiting biz, how would you feel about having to devote more of your time to the Portal speculation, on top of all the effort you put into high school and JC kids? How many of your original colleagues like Mike Farrell are still around?

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December 10, 2021 3:21 pm
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Thanks for your perspective. So many new angles and media platforms to consider now. With all the hours you put in at the time, I don’t see how anyone could do it right without a large, well funded team. I appreciate all that you did to make it great

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December 9, 2021 6:46 pm

Michigan state took 20 transfers last year. Mel Tucker fixed their roster in a hurry. We need that kind of help for this roster, especially on the lines. Even if we recruit a great class, we don’t want true freshman everywhere, or maybe we do? It will be interesting to see what Riley does.

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December 9, 2021 7:24 pm
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How did he exceed the 25 scholy limit? Or did he only take 5 players out of high school?

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December 9, 2021 7:57 pm
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What I saw Chris, on the 2021 portal MSU had 21 transfer out and 14 transferred in. He could legally as far as I can read only have brought in 11 new high school players for a 25 player limit for 2021. What he could get counted toward 2020 or 2022 I am not sure. This whole thing has been an education, and from what I have read it is going to get changed again as they are looking at changing the 25 scholarship limit. To what nobody knows yet.

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December 9, 2021 3:30 pm

Looking at numbers for next year I think we can have up to 32 new scholarship players between recruits and transfers. On a team of 85, that is a boatload. I think there are going to be lots more current players hitting transfer portal. Next years team is going to look a whole lot different.

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December 9, 2021 4:52 pm
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I think a normal class runs from 15-25 so if they fill 32 that is a little over a third of the team would be newcomers.

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December 9, 2021 5:03 pm
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I’ve read onTOS you can only take 7 from the portal, not sure if they count against the 25 rule.

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December 9, 2021 6:47 pm
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I think that’s right, but you can also take transfers for all those you lose. Looks like Riley is purging our roster right now.

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December 9, 2021 6:54 pm
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85 scholarship players, execpt this year seniors who come back do not count against that 85. 25 scholarships per year. Either transfers or intitial counter count toward that 25. I am not sure how Riley can fill 32 in one year, or whether he would want to. If he can fill all 32 legally with transfers he could get guys in different classes and they would leave earlier and open new scholys. It is all really confusing.

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December 9, 2021 5:35 pm
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Where do early enrollees fit into this. Any chance Malahi Nelson cuts things short next year a la JT Daniels?

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December 9, 2021 6:28 pm
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I think that if they early enroll and take a scholy they count just the same. Nelson would have be on top of his requirements and plan right now to reclassify. JT did it and worked his butt off to get through.

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December 9, 2021 6:48 pm
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No idea. But 247 sports has a great site for keeping track of portal.

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December 9, 2021 3:01 pm

Rivals: Brian Odom, ILB coach from Lincoln Riley’s OU staff, out recruiting for USC

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December 9, 2021 2:46 pm

Rivals says Elias Ricks is leaning toward USC and coming as a package with Domani Jackson. That is encouraging for sure.

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December 9, 2021 5:04 pm
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Winners like to play with other winners on their team

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December 9, 2021 1:51 pm
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Allen, your Christmas will be complete.

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December 9, 2021 5:10 pm
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If, that’s a big if, Uncle Phil takes Choc. Chip, can UGLY in this new paradigm afford a Great or even good Coach ?

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December 10, 2021 5:40 am
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I don’t know how much the State of CA can afford to pay a new UGLY coach. In 2019, Choc Chip Kelly was paid $3 Million. Mick Cronin, the UGLY Basketball Coach, was $4.2 Million in 2020. That pales in comparison to what Riley and Brian Kelly were offered.

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December 10, 2021 7:45 am
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My guess is Brady Hoke at SDSU and he will probably take much less than the elite coaches got. He would then have a chance to rehab himself after his failure at Michigan. The Pac 12 is hardly the Big 10.

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December 10, 2021 9:39 am
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Unless Wasserman steps in again they will have to settle for a lesser candidate.

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December 9, 2021 12:05 pm

Jake Haener left portal to go back to Fresno St to play for Tedford. Good choice.

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December 9, 2021 11:48 am

Riley has three different offers out to transfer portal OLine. All three would be huge upgrades. Sounds like we will have two on campus this weekend. Also a LB. Let’s go Riley and crew!

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December 9, 2021 12:02 pm
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Chris, how did you find out who he was offering to in the portal?

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December 9, 2021 12:12 pm
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247sports transfer portal. I go on their twitter page. Also Shotgun Spratling and Chris Trevino throwing out lots of info.

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December 9, 2021 11:42 am

Drake London declares for NFL. Thanks for the great show Drake.

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December 9, 2021 11:35 am

The one coach who I do believe was effective this last season was Sean Snyder, Special Teams coach. They did well on coverages, always had 11 on the field, and probably was the most well run unit. They just did not have an effective return man. I would like to see Riely keep him, unless of course he has a better one in his back pocket.

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December 10, 2021 10:03 am
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I don’t think Riley used a special teams coach at OU, and it was a source of some criticism of him, including right after his now famous (infamous if you are a Sooner) denial of being the next LSU coach. It will be interesting to see if he uses one out here, but coaches tend to have their philosophies. It is always a struggle — with special teams coaches, during the Helton years we spent way too much time practicing special teams, taking away from other preparation, and we got little benefit out of it thanks to the general lack… Read more »

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December 9, 2021 11:15 am

Allen, Thanks for the Article. I would rate Riley to SC and Cristobal to Miami as both A grades. They both ideal cultural “fit” perfectly for the job at those schools and are elite coaches (Riley has a much better track record than Cristobal, but Cristobal is quite good). Hats off to Bohn for pulling it off and to both Caruso and Folt for backing it. I agree with Cowherd that Justin Wilcox is a perfect “cultural fit” for Oregon, but, as you point out, he is at best a mediocre coach. Oregon is such an odd place that I… Read more »

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December 9, 2021 11:06 am

At the risk of sounding snarky… what the heck? No mention of a grade for the Helton hire? Is that because “WTF?” isn’t a grade available. Or maybe the writer thought Georgia Southern was the name of a railroad like I did. The way the officials at Georgia Southern were fawning all over the Cat, you’d think they were setting him up for a practical joke. I tried to imagine what would have led up to such a hire in the first place? Were they not watching Helton on national broadcasted games? The guy who routinely sent 10 men out… Read more »

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December 9, 2021 12:52 pm
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Damn! I thought I had heard it all. Confusing cats for pigs–yech! Sounds like an El Rey burrito….

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December 9, 2021 12:02 pm
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Wilcox is one of Cowherd’s pals from the Suckisian days. Herbiestreet and Cowhurd pimp their buddies on air for good jobs all the time. Idiots like Texas actually listen.

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December 9, 2021 9:03 am

Our honeymoon with Riley will last a short while. We have all come back with expectations again. I think we will be entertained by the offensive show, but the defense is the side where we have our biggest aprehension. Changes will occur everywhere, but I see the biggest need is the defense, and I hope Riley agrees.

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December 9, 2021 9:51 am
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M too!!!

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December 9, 2021 11:16 am
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With Riley we will have years of honeymoon, not as long as we had with Helton. Or was that just a painful relationship. Don’t take me wrong, I do support him and have a lot of faith he can deliver. With so much so wrong for so long it is sometimes hard to imagine great success, we kind of forgot what it felt like.

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December 9, 2021 9:56 am
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I’m just guessing but it seems Oklahoma moved from being a physical defense to one based on quickness. Maybe because in the Big 12 conference where TT, OSU, Baylor, WV, if not TCU & Texas, all ran quick-paced spread out-air raid type offenses, it demanded a speedy defense to try limiting it. This article does point out the recent sooner defenses giving up lots of points and needing the offense to outscore the opponent to win games. We’ve seen a lot of that here these past years where a lead was never safe. And Riley has brought his DC with… Read more »

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December 9, 2021 11:59 am
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After a good honeymoon one finds themselves back home at work. Loving your partner, you go to work to create the best possible ‘Home’. Well darn Lincoln you worked every minute of the honeymoon and you keep on working! This is USC’s guy, in the wildest of dreams, he only showed up in Bohn and Sosna’s. Now he’s the Trojan family’s dream hire, and he’s our guy to lead on the path to restore USC football to the top. USC football is a project after years of bad management. There are some frustrating times ahead, still LR has my support,… Read more »

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December 9, 2021 12:01 pm
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anyone not named Kiffin, Suck, or Gomer will last a long time with me. No one from the Pete Carroll coaching weed ever again. Besides HCLR is going to win big here. He is a real football coach ! and he calls his own plays so we don’t have to go through the lose Chow OC every day thing

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December 9, 2021 7:39 am
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Alamo Bowl – Oregon v Oklahoma
The “I got dumped right before Holidays” bowl

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December 9, 2021 7:02 am

A bit of a Red Flag in this article, on the hiring of Venables by Oklahoma,

“The dicision was well-received at OU, particularly among former players who saw the program going soft under Riley’s leadership”.

SC is SO FAR ahead with Riley than with Hugs. He should be able to dominate the Pac 12 but is he gonna get SC to top 4 rankings and play off semi finals?

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December 9, 2021 7:06 am
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How would we know if Steiner performed well or not? Strength and performance coaches are hard to judge. Everybody thinks the top guys are at the top schools, but isn’t that just a reflection of the program winning? Alabama’s guy must be good because they are #1. But that guy starts with nothing but elite physical talent who are already used to out working their peers. I guess that’s the benefit of coaching for Saban. You are going to win. It’s a bummer for Seiner he has to hitch his wagon to Clay.

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December 9, 2021 9:00 am
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Allen there is no reason to think optimism about Wylie is foolish. The proof is in the pudding, he as already produced in his past positions. The change at USC is going to be drastic, some boys will not become men and go along with it. So be it. It may take longer than we all imagine to turn this around, the damage by Helton and his failed philosophy is obviously greater than we all thought it was. These boys need to learn that their safe space has been taken away, they need to face threats everywhere, in the locker… Read more »

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December 9, 2021 11:20 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

I think we can see the quality of Clay’ staff. My guess is they have all been informed that they will not be retained. The OL coach has a job, getting his old job as the OL coach at WSU. Stiner could only get a job with Clay at GA Southern which is a huge step down from his old job (and it is with The Cat!). Not one of the group has another job despite all the turmoil in quality programs in D1. So, the best coach of the group was the OL coach, who candidly, did a competent… Read more »

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December 9, 2021 10:09 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

We knew when Riley was hired, he wasn’t going to be thinking “WWCHD” (what would Clay Helton do). He has a chance to make an immediate impact on West Coast recruits in at least in getting him in the door to sell himself just before early signing day.