Trojans Earn An A+ With Lincoln Riley

2022 college football coaching carousel grades: Lincoln Riley an ‘A+’ with Brent Venables an ‘A-‘ replacement

Dennis Dodd (CBSSports.com)  —  Blink and you missed the latest coaching carousel. Twenty-eight schools changed coaches in a 99-day period. Compare that to the 2020-21 hiring cycle when 18 changes took more than 10 months to complete. (Ohio’s Frank Solich retired last July.)

Changes were so fast and furious in 2021 that at least one school fired a coach and then hired a replacement within the regular season (Georgia Southern swapping Chad Lunsford for Clay Helton.) Thirteen schools that changed coaches were bowl-eligible.

The only certainty is that the landscape of college football will change further. Three of the Pac-12’s most traditional powers will all have new coaches: USC, Washington, Oregon. Brian Kelly changed jobs, cultures and accents in leaving Notre Dame for LSU. Florida has its third full-time coach since 2014. Almost half of the 28 coaches hired (13) are first-time program leaders.

Change is here to stay. In the last three offseasons, 67 schools have hired new coaches. That’s more than half of FBS.

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Steveg
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Steveg(@steveg)
January 8, 2022 12:49 pm

One thing I have enjoyed watching the game today was nobody committed to Alabama or Clemson. It appears to me that with the coaching changes going on the playing field has been leveled some. I do see the possibility of other schools, USC included, coming up and being contenders. How much NIL is involved is truly not clear, and I hope there is nothing illegal going on in recruiting because of it. It is a shame but I am sure there is some stuff going on that should not. I hope the ncaa has the ability to control it and… Read more »

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January 8, 2022 11:21 am
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No where to go but up and Luke is like he said family oriented.

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January 8, 2022 11:32 am
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Allen we are glad when anybody nixes them. Poor Chipper.

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January 8, 2022 10:43 am
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Offense skill positions is forming up nicely. We need some Earnest Greene types now.

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January 8, 2022 9:00 am

Ten of the nation’s best prospects are set to announce their college decision during Saturday’s All-American Bowl, which will be broadcast live nationally on NBC (kickoff is 1 p.m. ET). USC is at least in the conversation for 5 and likely to get at least 1, 4-star WR C J Williams, Santa Ana (Calif.) Mater Dei.

Also in the mix for USC,

4-star OT Earnest Greene, Bellflower (Calif.) St. John Bosco,

4-star safety Larry Turner-Gooden, Mission Hills (Calif.) Bishop Alemany ,

4-star EDGE Cyrus Moss, Las Vegas (Nev.) Bishop Gorman,

4-star WR Kevin Coleman, St. Louis (Mo.) St. Mary’s.

Steveg
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January 8, 2022 10:02 am
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Thanks Golden, I am going to watch it. I forgot about it.

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January 8, 2022 10:00 am
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So USC could end up with Caleb Williams, CJ Williams, and Mario Williams. Not to mention Farooq, another WR. We could have a play, where “Williams passes to Williams who gets a great block from Williams for the score”. Confusing yes, but a lot of fun.

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January 8, 2022 8:26 am

Mike Jinks is going to Houston. Good for him, I thought he did a very good job with the running backs considering the blocking they had. I do believe we got everything we could get out of each of them. I wish him well.
WSU Qb de Lara entered the portal. That seems odd to me, he is established and has a starting position.

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January 8, 2022 8:34 am
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My guess on Delauria is money. He is probably testing the waters to see if a SEC team will offer him $1milion or more in NIL money. Auburn is looking for a QB and they will pay at least $1million if they want him. He knows that he is not a pro prospect but he is a very good collegiate QB. WSU cannot pay that kind of money. Welcome to the world of NILs and transfers with immediate eligibility. I expect that a lot of kids are doing this. Wouldn’t you? If you could make $3 or $4 million playing… Read more »

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January 8, 2022 9:56 am
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Capitalism at its finest. I am sure de Laura will end up at a good school, as you say he is a good college Qb. The NIL has destroyed what we used to know as college football. These teams are now operating as businesses and as for me, I feel sad these things have changed. I am from the “win one for the gipper” age I guess.

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January 8, 2022 5:14 am

I’m going to reserve comments on LR until I see what he puts on the field starting this September. Ratings and pre-season rankings mean nothing. It’s performance that counts.

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January 8, 2022 7:47 am
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I would add better conditioning and coaching of the current players by LR and staff could help get 9 wins as well.

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January 8, 2022 8:20 am
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You have to build a foundation to build a dynamic program. LR is doing just that with excellent staffing. 2022 as I see it can go 9 wins although RJJ so disagrees with me.😀 2023 will see some substantial quality improvements and by 2024 we should be in the conversations again. One thing is obvious on here and every site I see, it all boils down to line play on both sides of the ball.

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January 8, 2022 8:26 am
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My 6-6 projection is based on the talent presently on the team. Let’s see what LR does with the transfer portal. His goal is to replace the team’s 3 deep as well as its culture. I doubt he will be able to get that done in one year. If he pulls in some quality players, particularly at OL, DL, and LB, I may change my mind. September is a long way off.

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January 8, 2022 8:12 am
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rlee, you have to admit that LR’s staffing is so far superior to the Cat that we cannot compare the two. And, he has recruited more talent already than the Cat was able to in his last four years combined. As to on the field results, we have to give him 3 years. The team he took over is a mess. As Allen points out, it has the worst talent level (particularly on D) of any SC team in the last 50 years. It was also given the worst culture in SC history. You do not change something like that… Read more »

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January 8, 2022 8:05 am
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You have to give Chocolate Chip his due. He DL coach was hired to be AZ’s DC and now Ohio State poaches his OL coach. I compare that to the Cat. As far as I can recall, other than his brother to Western KY, the only position coach the Cat had hired away from his staff was the RB coach he poached from Indiana, who went to KC Chiefs. Otherwise, all his key staffers were fired and were usually replaced by folks who were fired by other schools. I got a kick that Nansen (who has no experience as a… Read more »

Steveg
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January 8, 2022 8:14 am
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Chip Kelly’s buyout becomes zero on January 16th. Will ucla keep him? I think that there is a chance they let him go, but then again the carousel seems to have slowed down and who would want to pick up the pieces at ucla at this stage?

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January 8, 2022 8:21 am
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Steveg, the more interesting question is what does UCLA do? They are paying Chip $4.5 million a year. Who could they get whose better for that amount of money? For me, the interesting issue is whether Sexton (Chip’s agent) will now threaten UCLA to get a huge extension (like he did for Franklin at Penn State and with Mora). What does UCLA do if Chip leaves? Who do they get? Jeff Tedford? How about Clay Helton? Karl Dorrell? This is a very expensive market for elite collegiate HC’s. And, the coaching carousel has been very active this year. UCLA is… Read more »

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January 7, 2022 8:33 pm
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I would expect that if CW comes to USC, there are some good OL coming as well. Why would he come with a mediocre OL in front of him?

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January 8, 2022 8:14 am
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I have read internet rumors that some SEC and B10 teams are already offering $2-3 Million in NIL funds for his first year. Colin Cowherd says that SC will be marketing based on its staff’s ability to develop his talent and let his talent earn market rates. Should be interesting.

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January 7, 2022 5:11 pm

Allen, sometimes in life things are just meant to be. The fact the we landed ourselves a great head coach should make us ALL ecstatic!!!! Let’s not question why, but appreciate what Bohn was able to pull off. We’ve all been dazes and confused for so long that we don’t know how to feel right now. That will all clear up on September 3rd. FIGHT ON!!!!!

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January 7, 2022 4:11 pm

USC’s basketball game against Stanford, that was originally scheduled for tomorrow and then postponed due to Covid, has been rescheduled for this Tuseday at 2pm.

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January 7, 2022 3:05 pm

I’ll stand by an F for GA So’s hiring of the Cat as the head coach. I just don’t think he’s head coach material anywhere. He may be adequate in some role where he can do no harm (laundry man?), but he’s demonstrated he totally lacks the qualities needed to lead a group of football players toward gridiron success. Enough of the Cat talk though, I totally agree with the A+, or an A++, on the LR hire. As we all kicked around prospective future HC’s after the Cat was finally canned, I don’t recall seeing Riley’s name come up… Read more »

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January 7, 2022 3:51 pm

When the search and season was going on I did wonder if Lincoln Riley would consider coming to USC. The only remark I got back was “why would Riley give up what he has at OU”. I had to agree, it was a long reach. I was as surprised as anyone when they announced. It was the absolute best pick that could have been made.

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January 7, 2022 4:43 pm

If games had gone differently the last 2 weeks of November we might have Aranda, Campbell or even Gundy or B Kelly. Bohn had a big budget to go get the best and was juggling 4-5 prospects waiting to see which one falls. Thankfully our prayers were answered and we got the best.

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January 7, 2022 5:00 pm
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The stars aligned, so true. I would have wanted B Kelly the least. Not my type. Too stodgy and curmudgeonly for me. I like more energy and personality. I don’t think he would played well here in LA.

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January 7, 2022 5:29 pm

For sure, Kelly is making his last kick. He won’t last unless he is the next Saban, which he could have been a ND.

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January 7, 2022 6:47 pm
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Boy, that’s a good question. Riley left knowing OU was out of the playoffs. ND still had a chance at top 4 when Kelly bailed. In the long run both could have stayed and retired as legends. Riley saw a Saban like opportunity to build a dynasty coming to USC. Kelly saw a last chance at maybe one NC. Kelly’s timing was the worse to me, “He really crapped on the Irish”. 💩

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January 7, 2022 12:52 pm

Just the statement that “Helton ran the air raid” at USC is hilariously clueless. Helton didn’t run anything — he wasn’t competent to run equipment checkouts. If Helton didn’t become so prominently know for his gaping mouth look and total inability to manage a football team and enforce any discipline, he would have no coaching identity at all. I don’t say that to stomp on his grave, so to speak, but it never fails to amaze me the lack of insight the national media had about what Helton was all about. Helton made USC so irrelevant that nobody even bothered… Read more »

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January 7, 2022 1:22 pm
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Right! USC fans are like hostages that just got freed. We knew it was all horrible, but it looks even worse what he was allowed to do to us now that we have LR.

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January 7, 2022 4:16 pm
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No one was more negative about CH on this website than me. But he did exactly what was asked of him basically: to sit on the football program and keep it out of trouble. If he hadn’t gotten that terrible extension then goodbye Mr. Helton and good luck. But it didn’t happen that way and that was when the deterioration of the program started to really show itself as did my displeasure.

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January 7, 2022 4:59 pm
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You nailed it Allen, with all of those silly Helton platitudes! Most of us learned to tune those out years ago.

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January 7, 2022 4:57 pm
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Rock- I say with great confidence that Helton couldn’t run a lemonade stand. Thank God his stench has been removed.

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January 7, 2022 11:24 am
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Isn’t he NFL bound? One more year I guess.

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January 7, 2022 11:59 am
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Gotcha. I would think uncle Phil could have some pretty sweet NIL deals. Do you know who our largest donors are? Just curious.

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January 7, 2022 8:18 am

Poorly researched section about the Cat’s new gig. First of all, Helton will never earn a passing grade as a football coach. Second, Georgia Southern University has had a football program for decades, not 8 years. The author did a quick google for “GSU” and got information about Georgia State University (downtown Atlanta) who has had a football program since 2009, Division 1-A for the last 8 seasons.

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January 7, 2022 11:08 am
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Yes, Georgia Southern became FBS right after my son’s Furman career was complete. A famous coach from the Eagles’ history was Erk Russell–long time assistant of Vince Dooley’s at UGA. He was the guy who put Georgia Southern Football on the map in the 80’s.

I think we can still question Mr. Dodd’s intelligence for grading Clay Helton with a passing C+….

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January 7, 2022 9:10 am
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Sloppy, sloppy, and we are supposed to believe the media, right.

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January 7, 2022 10:31 am
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You are right Dodd did say an 8 y.o. FBS program, not 8 yrs total FCS+FBS. I retrack my sloppy comment. The article is an interesting opinion piece. It would fun to see what grades Dodd would give out a year from now. I think LR is the best hire in the country and totally deserves an A+. The others I don’t care unless they play SC and I want them to get an F-.

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January 7, 2022 11:17 am
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Who knows, Helton, a mediocre coach in mediocre conference with mediocre talent, may work out in the South with his Faith, Family, Football and Gomer Pyle statements.

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January 7, 2022 7:42 am

There is a great article on Wolf’s blog about Fight On Forever. A great endeavor by some serious past players to help others in need.

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January 6, 2022 10:00 pm

USC Basketball wins on the road at CAL to win 77 to 63 and stay undefeated at 13-0.

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January 7, 2022 6:14 am
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I was impressed that they could shake off the rust, and beat a team that had won 9 in a row at home.

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January 7, 2022 7:20 am
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I find out from you they finally had played again. I look to see when the Stanford game is on and find out it is postponed. Ugh! This team is good I hope they get to play the rest of the way.

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January 7, 2022 9:21 am
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The next USC basketball is a home game against Oregon State on January 13th.
Enfield has finally found a formula that is working for the program: he brings in a few talented freshmen/sophmores and then surrounds then with mature senior/graduate transfers from small colleges who possess discipline and intelligence.

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January 6, 2022 8:04 pm

Another one bites the dust:

Former USC offensive lineman Casey Collier has entered the transfer portal, deciding to leave the Trojans’ program after just two seasons.

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January 7, 2022 2:34 am
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That gives LR 8 scholarships left for ’22. He can get up to 4 more guys from the portal. At least 4 more commits on LOI Feb 3. He has 7 commits and 3 transfers in the bank.

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January 7, 2022 4:39 am
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If you look at his career stat board… it’s no great loss.

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January 6, 2022 5:50 pm

Seeing anyone give the Cat a C+ grade as a coach, proves they weren’t paying attention. Against lower PAC 12 foes he was a freaking genius on paper, but against an average team he was an idiot. He’s proof that positive behavior intervention strategy doesn’t work. His idea of punishment was watching game film without popcorn. He made stupid mistakes and invented new ways to repeat them. He learned from his predecessors. From Kiffin he learned the sideline smirk. From Sark he learned to stay sober in public. And from Coach O he learned to give the linemen cookies, lots… Read more »

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January 6, 2022 6:55 pm
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My guess is he will do to GA Southern what Charlie Weiss did to KS.

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January 7, 2022 6:12 am
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Rialto- call Helton stupid is being charitable, and I agree, his hire by Georgia So. deserves an F. Dennis Dodd is clueless and probably just looked at his W-L record in making his evaluation.

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January 7, 2022 7:29 am
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Dodd is like all the sports writers, they were afraid to say the truth about Helton or else they would be locked out of any future press conferences. It has been funny to see the remarks about Helton now that he is gone that would not have been said were he still here.

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January 6, 2022 5:21 pm

GAS a C+ for hiring Helton. All depends on perspective. USC gets an F- for allowing him to be HC in the first place.

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January 6, 2022 4:45 pm

Brian Kelly changed jobs, cultures and accents in leaving Notre Dame for LSU.”
Statement of the month. lol