Mistake-Prone Trojans Lose To Irish Again

Early mistakes haunt USC in loss to Notre Dame

Adam Grosbard (OC Register)  —  SOUTH BEND, Ind. — It was a valiant effort by a USC team that entered the fourth quarter trailing by 21 to rival Notre Dame.

A 77-yard drive capped by a Keaontay Ingram touchdown made it a two-possession game, then a Chris Steele (left) interception set up another long march down the field and a Darwin Barlow touchdown. Even after a missed extra point, the Trojans had silenced the sellout crowd clad in navy and green by cutting the deficit down to eight with 8:51 to play.

But in the end, it wasn’t enough to overcome the mistakes USC made before and after its comeback attempt.

Notre Dame went 75 yards on eight plays on the ensuing drive, aided by a pass interference by Steele and an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on Xavion Alford. Backup quarterback Tyler Buchner rushed for a 3-yard touchdown to give the Irish breathing room, and USC ultimately fell 31-16.

“I feel like we ran out of time,” interim head coach Donte Williams said. “We made way too many mistakes against a really good football team. … We all made mistakes, and we took turns making them.”

If there is one sequence from the game that sums up where the Trojans (3-4, 2-3 in Pac-12) are at this point in the season, it came in the final minute of the first half.

Down 14 and needing a conversion on fourth-and-2 from the Notre Dame 47 with 39 seconds left before the break, USC tried to draw the Fighting Irish offsides but had to burn their final timeout when Notre Dame didn’t jump. The Trojans called a run, and Ingram got the first down, but the clock kept ticking.

Rather than a passing play to the sideline that could put USC in field goal range and stop the clock, the Trojans had a miscommunication from the sidelines that resulted in another Ingram run.

“That’s my fault,” Slovis said. Sixteen seconds left, Slovis rushed USC up to the line of scrimmage for a passing play. Unable to find a receiver, Slovis scrambled for an unnecessary first down rather than throwing the ball away to stop the clock. The remaining two seconds were not enough time for USC to get the ball off before the half ended, without the Trojans attempting a field goal or taking a shot at the end zone.

“If we would get the first down and the clock would stop with three seconds left, we should be able to spike it,” Slovis said. “But the chains weren’t set at all either, but I guess they ran it when the ball got down. I didn’t hear a whistle or anything so that’s on me again.”

Williams ripped his headset off in frustration. Meeting Slovis on the way to the locker room, he signaled to his quarterback that he should have spiked the ball to stop the clock.

The lack of awareness on all levels was damaging for USC. But it was one of many ways the Trojans cost themselves.

The USC offensive line was completely outmatched by the Notre Dame pass rush. Slovis was constantly under pressure, beginning when he was sacked on the first snap of the game. Tackle Jonah Monheim was replaced after his man blocked a pass that was intercepted by Bo Bauer at the line of scrimmage. But he was reinserted the next drive when his replacement, Jalen McKenzie, was called for a false start, one of nine USC penalties.

And the Trojans’ red zone issues popped up again. With 8:08 left in the third quarter, USC was actually out-gaining the Irish 267-218 but trailing 17-3 after one red-zone turnover and a missed field goal by Parker Lewis. This came against a Notre Dame defense missing All-American safety Kyle Hamilton, who left in the first quarter with a leg injury.

“The frustrating thing is it’s not like we’re going out here and having 50 yards of total offense,” Slovis said. “Some mistakes here, not executing here and you end up with 17 points on a day where you feel like you should have a lot more.”

The USC defense had its moments, like holding Notre Dame (6-1) to a field goal on a drive that began at the USC 5, a stand that was possible because Slovis sprinted 80 yards to tackle Bauer and prevent a pick-six.

But the old shortcomings like missed tackles were evident from the beginning. Three of Notre Dame’s first four drives went for at least 70 yards, the lone exception being the one that started at the USC 5.

The USC mistakes were enough to lose consecutive games for the first time this season, and overshadow a career-high 171 receiving yards by Drake London and a 138-yard rushing performance by Ingram.

“If it’s just one particular player [making mistakes], all of a sudden you can sub that player out,” Williams said of the pass-blocking issues, though he could have been speaking of USC as a whole. “But when it’s just a collective of different plays, it’s hard.”

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LawyerJohn
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October 25, 2021 7:02 pm

Off topic, but what was the original topic after 130 comments?– Well, anyway, did anybody take note of the 9 ,yep, 9 overtimes in the Penn St vs Ilinois game?– The overtime rule in college football changed this year with the introduction of a mandatory 2-point try if after 2 overtimes there is no winner… So the ball is placed on the 3-yard line, and no one could put it in the end zone until the 9th overtime. A record I would bet will never be broken. Although it does conjure up the fact that scoring from the 3-yard line… Read more »

Chris
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October 25, 2021 7:09 pm
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We have the single worst 2 point offense in the country. We could probably have 100 tries before we cashed in.

Chris
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October 25, 2021 6:35 pm

The Manning brother broadcast is much more fun.

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October 25, 2021 6:23 pm

Currents odds on who will be the next head coach at USC:

  • Luke Fickell +600
  • James Franklin +600
  • Chris Petersen +700
  • Bob Stoops +800
  • Matt Campbell +1000
  • PJ Fleck +1000
  • Bill O’Brien +1100
  • Urban Meyer +1200
  • Mario Cristobal +1500
  • Gary Patterson +1800
  • Tony Elliott +2000
  • Lane Kiffin +3000

Here is the list from September.
James Franklin +450
Luke Fickell +450
Urban Meyer +500
Matt Campbell +950
PJ Fleck +1000
Mario Cristobal +1200
Tony Elliott +1600
Dave Aranda +1600
Bob Stoops +2000
Eric Bienemy +3000
Chris Peterson +5000
Lane Kiffin +5000
Steve Sarkisian +10000
Pete Caroll +10000

Chris
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October 25, 2021 5:52 pm

why isn’t Jack Del Rio or Kris Richard or Tim McDonald or about 20 other USC guys at Bohn’s office? If Fisher is under consideration, then every former players with NFL ties should be.

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October 25, 2021 6:37 pm
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It seems every time USC makes a change, which is quite often compared to a lot of other schools, the same old names always come up. I think it is just part of the hiring fiasco that goes on at USC.

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October 25, 2021 7:22 pm
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Never knew that factoid.

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October 25, 2021 5:05 pm
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Allen, you’re up for this….Jeff has an overall win % .512. His last stop the Rams, he had a win. %.414.
Im sure Bones can find a similar resume in many of the lower tier Power 5 teams or better Group 5 teams, Cheaper as well.

But if you’re all jacked on him, don’t let me curb your enthusiasm.

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October 25, 2021 5:55 pm
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There was sure a lot of doubt about Herm Edwards. He took the HC job as the HC, nothing else. All the work is done by his assistants at his direction, and he has good assistants. Not a Fisher fan, but what if he came in and ran a professional organization at USC. Wow, what a change that would be.

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October 25, 2021 6:33 pm
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Looking at his product on the field of play, he has brought ASU up to new competitive levels is what I was referring to. Their recruiting fiasco is a different area of serious concern. Are you saying he didn’t accomplish anything good for ASU football?

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October 25, 2021 8:08 pm
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I don’t see Fisher as a high energy HC running a high energy program inspiring the best athletes to come here. He’s too laid back for the college game.

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October 25, 2021 9:48 pm
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I would rather have Jack Del Rio than Fisher. Carson Palmer on Dan Patrick today, admitted that he is being consulted about the coaching job, which makes me wonder how many former players are being consulted. It’s not a bad thing, and pretty smart by Bohn, because even if it’s window dressing, he at least makes them feel connected and part of the process. Palmer also agreed that Tomlin would be a home run, as do I. It would be intriguing in the way that rumors of John Harbaugh being interested a few years ago was. I know Cowherd is… Read more »

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October 25, 2021 5:12 pm
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And let us not forget that like Kiffin and Sark, Fisher “knows SC.”

Steveg
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October 25, 2021 5:56 pm
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At his age he may have forgotten a lot of it.

Chris
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October 25, 2021 5:17 pm
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No thanks. Take a flyer on a coordinator or group of 5 coach. This would be thoroughly uninspiring.

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October 25, 2021 5:26 pm
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It would be a very USC thing to do. Which is why we shouldn’t.

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October 25, 2021 3:43 pm

This is exactly the result that leadership at USC led them to. All the big wheels need to fall off. The new coach will not be someone world class, they will be the only person willing to take the job. Yes it is a good job, but what a shambles to walk in to and the person taking it will soon find out what kind of support he really has. Binks should have been interim, he has past experience. I think Bohn set up Donte to fail so he could clean the slate.

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October 25, 2021 4:52 pm
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Steve do you think Bones is really that clever and foreword thinking ?
your suggestion has a certain intrigue quotient…or perhaps it’s Sosna doing the thinking.

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October 25, 2021 5:49 pm
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At times we wonder if anything is thought through at USC. Bohn is not dumb, knows the political waters, and along with Sosna they could cook it up. The end result is CYA. I would imagine USC is a political nightmare these days.

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October 25, 2021 2:56 pm
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The Guy…doesn’t have a clue. Donte is out of his depth. And doesn’t when to defer a question.

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October 25, 2021 1:03 pm

No idea if Carson Palmer leaked info he shouldn’t have, but I like it.

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October 25, 2021 2:35 pm
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I can’t see Tomlin diving into the chaos of college football. This isn’t Pete Carroll wanting to prove himself anywhere he could in 2000. And once he did that at SC, he went back to the pros in 2010. I see Tomlin leaving much sooner to go back to the pros. JMO

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October 25, 2021 3:00 pm
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Aaron Rodgers is a diva. Typical Berzerkely former student.

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October 25, 2021 4:54 pm
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It was a nervous Trojan crowd at the coliseum that day as I turned to a friend and said this kid cannot miss. It looked like curtains for Troy towards the end with Cal camped just outside SC’s end zone. I believe Rodgers was something like 23 for 27 at that point.

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October 25, 2021 3:21 pm
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He is, but he is also one of about five guys on the planet that can do what he does.

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October 25, 2021 4:45 pm
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Let me correct your statement Chris….

Currently Playing !!!

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October 25, 2021 5:29 pm
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There are retired guys that can go out there and play like him?

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October 25, 2021 10:24 pm
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Rodgers has been flirting with the Steelers, for sure, but I think Rodgers gave up his no trade clause as part of renegotiating his contract this year to allow him to leave after the season, so I think that Green Bay can trade him wherever. I’m guessing that the Browns are going to pass on bringing back Baker Mayfield, and maybe they will go hard after Rodgers. Green Bay doesn’t want him traded to an NFC team if they can help it, and I wonder if Rodgers might like the challenge of being the hero who brings a championship to… Read more »

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October 25, 2021 2:50 pm
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Exactly, completely different circumstances. In reality Pete was a little desperate to find a place to recreate his image.

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October 25, 2021 2:39 pm
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Hello….do you believe all the noise you hear from players or sports talking heads….?

Pittsburg Post-Gazette
Monday, October 25, 2021, 4:24PM 
Ron Cook

A informed quote.

There also is one other important factor in play here: Tomlin is signed through the 2024 season. NFL coaching contracts are nearly impossible to break. There are no buyouts.”

Palmer slipped and is spreading manure like all the rest of those seeking attention.

Relax! Ricky Caruso told us he was going for the gold..”World Class”
Yeah….Right…Sure…Don’t Sweat it.

What are the odds on that John?

Jamaica
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October 25, 2021 3:49 pm
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Can’t believe Carson is serious about leaking Tomlin’s name. He might be saying this to confuse those who are also looking at hiring new HCs? But I can’t fathom Tomlin making this career change.

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October 25, 2021 5:25 pm
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Tomlin is the head coach of an older team whose window is now closed and needs to rebuild. With that, the Rooney family and the Steeler organization is as stable as it gets. He can ride out a few bad years and trust that they will be good again. He’s certainly young enough to do so. Either way, I hope it’s true.

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October 25, 2021 12:03 pm

No need to beat a dead horse here, everyone knows how bad we are, but ND is the worst top 15 team out there. If we don’t shoot ourselves in the foot over and over, they would have had a difficult time beating us, and we stink. I am not sure who is left on their schedule, but I would think some losses are coming.

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October 25, 2021 2:15 pm
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At the beginning of the season I had SC at 5-2. I expected the last 2 losses and only planned on 2 more wins. The beat down by Stanford and OSU were a surprise at the time. Now down the stretch, I only expect a win against Arizona. We should all get ready for 4-8. Then the wait for the big announcement. 🤗

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October 25, 2021 2:28 pm
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Golden, Does it really matter if SC goes 4-8 or 6-6? This is a bad team. It always was a bad team. We just did not see how bad it was until they actually played. In fact, it is the worst SC team I have ever seen (and I saw a lot of stinkers, like the Larry Smith 4-8 team with Reggie Perry at QB or the Paul Hackett team that finished dead last in the Pac 12). I really hope they decide to show up for one game – UCLA. They can lose the rest, but beat those Bruins!… Read more »

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October 25, 2021 2:48 pm
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No it doesn’t matter. I’m just trying to prepare those still out there that some how think this team will gel and start to play well. There should be no expectations by anyone that is going to happen.

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October 25, 2021 3:20 pm
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It is hard for me to not have hope at game time. The opening kickoff usually has me pumped up, but after the first series of plays I deflate back to my no expectations self.

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October 25, 2021 3:37 pm
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I remember looking at the schedule before the season thinking to myself that with a little luck they could go 10-2. Man, was I off. I really question whether can have the ability to beat Arizona.

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October 25, 2021 3:35 pm
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Maybe this current USC program has a few more 4-star athletes than the other conference programs. But when there is no measurable player development, questionable position coaching and poor communication-game management, any advantage USC has is lost compared to other opponents who somewhat know what they’re doing.

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October 25, 2021 3:30 pm
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I fail to see how anyone could expect big success at Texas Tech. With A&M. Texas, TCU, SMU, OK St, and OK all devouring all the recruits in Texas, there isn’t much left for Tech. I watched Tech this weekend, they would beat USC. Wells wasn’t doing that bad of a job and the rest of their schedule is going to be really tough, every team is ranked. Poor timing on firing Wells.

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October 25, 2021 10:12 pm
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Watch Texas Tech hire Harrell as its new football coach next year

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October 25, 2021 10:20 am

That we are this bad at the juncture in the season is mind boggling. Donte’s excuses sound Heltonesk “The younger players are having trouble adjusting to the speed of the game. What? They’ve been there since August at minimum are they really that slow or are they not getting reps in practice?“There are repeat offenders on false start penalties, but putting in a new faces might backfire.” What? Do you practice the whole team or just the stupid ones?I get that USC needs and wants to keep a good recruiting coach, but putting an inexperienced person in charge might backfire… Read more »

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October 25, 2021 3:32 pm
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I cannot understand how USC is now a 21 point favorite. I see them winning by the skin of their teeth. Smart money would bet Arizona. To bad you are broke Allen. lol

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October 25, 2021 3:55 pm
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Well it would be nice to see the Trojans motivated to do something. That is one ingredient they have been sorely missing. I would think Lake is done at season’s end along with several more to come. The carousel is going to be full come December.

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October 25, 2021 11:21 am
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?

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October 25, 2021 11:19 am
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Rialto, who would you have named as interim HC? GH? TO? TO might have done a few things differently, especially having more intense physical practices. But what this team needs is another off season of getting quicker, smarter in your position duties and being more disciplined. Trying to do this today during the season is just too much in overcoming hurts-injuries, learning the new gameplan for the next opponent. When the removal of CH came this late, after the start of the season, everyone knew the season would be a matter of survival. Mike Bohn is responsible for how this… Read more »

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October 25, 2021 12:35 pm
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Jamaica, Probably TO because he had better mentors than GH, to be honest I doubt any of the current staff will be employed after this season. I expected the Defense to be stronger and faster, instead they are dazed and confused. The offense was always on life support starting with the banishment of Bru McCoy. (What happened to Due Process?)

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October 25, 2021 3:12 pm
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The answer is in the lyrics to Fight On
“Fight On For Ol’ SC”
Old SC? that’s what’s missing. I’ve said before this ain’t my father’s USC

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October 25, 2021 3:18 pm
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What I could not understand was that they didn’t name the running backs coach as interim, at least he has some past HC experience.

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October 25, 2021 2:15 pm
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Rialto, Relax! As Rock stated below (in the post of year of me), this team is a turd. Accept it for what it is, not what the propaganda was this summer and fall. Bohn gave Donte the keys to the car. Donte clearly wanted them and clearly wanted this job. It never dawned on him (any more than it did Helton) that we was not only unqualified for it, but he was also incapable of doing it. Great move by Bohn I think. Remember Donte’s stated goal this year was to have Chris Steele go in the 1st Round –… Read more »

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October 25, 2021 2:17 pm
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😃

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October 24, 2021 8:13 pm

Michael Pittman balling !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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October 24, 2021 5:48 pm

I just heard that all fraternity activities at USC are on hold indefinitely following allegations of drugging and sexual assault at one of the houses. I guess the news was out yesterday but it is news to me. I wonder if USC will ever stop manufacturing this kind of news every couple of months or so. It is really embarrassing to deal with this stuff over and over again.

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October 25, 2021 4:33 am
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It appears that not only the football program but the University as well are in a melt down.

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October 25, 2021 7:13 am
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When I was a Greek at SC ’77-’80, the Sigma Nu’s were know as the “milk and cookies” boys. They have apparently changed the ingredients in the milk and/or cookies.

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October 24, 2021 5:45 pm

One thing I noticed against ND was USC did much better offensively when they threw the ball down the field instead of throwing underneath. Why they didn’t throw deep earlier had me baffled in the early part of the game. Especially when the ND safety went out hurt.

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October 24, 2021 5:51 pm
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Steve, you are trying to analyze a turd! Why do things happen in USC football? Because they do. There is nothing strategic and complex going on with this team. We’re on autopilot to get out of this season now. Our season looks about as unmanaged as the last minute before halftime yesterday. I find it a little “tone deaf” for DW to have that happen under his watch and then say after the game that we “didn’t lose the game, we just ran out of time.”

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October 24, 2021 5:57 pm
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A turd for sure. Harrell’s play calling sure leaves a lot to be desired.

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October 25, 2021 4:45 am
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It’s rather obvious and has been for the last three years, are you just noticing it ?

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October 25, 2021 6:23 am
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yep

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October 25, 2021 4:43 am
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Rock, you hit the bullseye, it’s not just the players that aren’t disciplined it’s the complete program inclusive of the coaching staff. For Williams, who is more a used car salesman than a position coach to use a Lombardi quip shows what a clown he is. For all the Steve’s on this blog, you’re simply making excuses for a lousy football team, if…if…if !

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October 25, 2021 7:16 am
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Alfa, where did you coach?

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October 25, 2021 11:14 am
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Palos Verdes pop warner. Mustangs, Mavericks.

how about you Chris?

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October 25, 2021 7:47 am
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Rock, The line of the year! You have convinced me to stop analyzing this team. It is a turd. And, Donte had best be very careful. GH and Orlando severely damaged (I would say for Orlando, it may be irrevocably damaged) their careers this year. Donte has shown himself to be incapable of being a head coach; the performance of the DBs calls into question his performance as a coach. He needs to preserve his credibility as a straight shooting recruiter. If he gets labeled a used car salesman (which his performance after the Notre Dame game is worthy of),… Read more »

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October 25, 2021 9:32 am
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I have no idea if Bohn intended this result or not, but he managed this brilliantly. Getting rid of The Cat early not only placated the alumni and fan base as well as removing SC from negative sports press but, as an added bonus, exposed the existing staff for what it is. Really an amazing management move. A true rarity at SC.

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October 25, 2021 11:19 am
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Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. Donte can recruit and I’m sure Oregon would take him back in a second. If the new guy doesn’t want him, so be it. But Donte inherited the titanic.

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October 25, 2021 2:21 pm
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I stand by my warning concerning Donte. Careers are now on the line. He is not simply a recruiter selling a vision to a young man. He is now responsible for delivering that on that vision. His reputation as a straight shooter is now on the line. Would you say that the statements after the ND game were that of a straight shooter? Or becoming a used car salesman? He is not at the level of Clay yet in PR (any relationship between what Clay said 0ver the last 4 years and what actually happened was purely coincidental) but he… Read more »

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October 25, 2021 4:11 pm
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For that reason I tend to give Donte some grace. He is not ready to be a HC, that is obvious. He had Helton to work under and I do believe that has effected every person on staff. Half of the college game is recruiting which he can do. I would not want to see him go to ucla that is for sure. Bohn did expose him, but I have to ask, who gave Donte the Asst. HC title to begin with.

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October 24, 2021 5:19 pm

Does anyone think there is any truth to the Mike Tomlin rumors coming to USC?

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October 25, 2021 11:01 am
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Steveg, I was just listening to Carson Palmer’s interview with Dan Patrick and Carson did throw Tomlin’s name out there. So he has not coached in college for 20 years. so what! Herm Edwards never coached in college or was a HC in the pros. So what! Tomlin since 2007 does not have a losing season at PITTSBURGH. He is only 49 years old. Do you think the football recruits would not have an interest in playing for a former NFL HC? I think so. Everything is on the table. Big Ben is almost done in PITT folks. It makes… Read more »

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October 25, 2021 11:29 am
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I just don’t think Mike Bohn is sophisticated enough to deal with hiring a current NFL coach. I think he would also be intimidated working with one.

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October 24, 2021 1:50 pm

Sam Darnold got benched vs the Giants …..And rightfully so ……He looked like crap .

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October 24, 2021 2:11 pm
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He’s the same guy now as he always has been, hasn’t really progressed. He just turns it over and doesn’t seem to care. He will not be a starter again after this year.

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October 25, 2021 4:51 am
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can you name the USC quarterbacks besides Palmer who made it in the League….

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October 25, 2021 11:03 am
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Other than losing his position to Harris and Ferragamo and being injured most of his career and never winning a NFC Championship….if that is what you consider a good career, we just have different standards….So, the Capper doesn’t quite ring the bell, middling career at best. Five years in the league and he’s done. What evah’

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October 25, 2021 11:16 am
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On that, we agree!

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October 25, 2021 4:48 am
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He had a reprieve with Rhule picking him up and a chance to redeem himself, if he doesn’t get it together now he will follow the footsteps of Barkley and Kessler.

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October 24, 2021 12:45 pm

With the exception of that fouled up play before the half by Slovis to save a few extra seconds on the playclock and get another score. I don’t know if playing Dart would have made a difference enough to win this game. What was lacking in this game by the trojan team is what has haunted it for some 5-6 years. Attention to details in limiting the penalties & executing blocking assignments in controlling the LOS more. I remember HC Chris Peterson at Boise St whose teams were fundamentally sound in never beating themselves and making plays both on defense… Read more »

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October 24, 2021 11:43 am
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Sorry Alabama, Ohio State, you lost a game you should have won. You don’t deserve a top 5 spot till you can beat an undefeated team. It will get sorted out over the next month. Georgia has a trap game with Florida this week. Then Georgia/Alabama in the SEC CCG. Cincy’s only challenge is SMU Nov 20. The Big 10 will beat each other up. Oklahoma still has some tough ones ahead.

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October 24, 2021 11:52 am
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My #21, 7-0, SDSU Aztecs take on 6-2 Fresno St this Saturday. John should list that game for the sake of Mr & Mrs SteveG and myself if for no other reason. The trouble with San Diego sports teams they find a way to blow a great season. I can just feel that train wreck coming for the Aztecs.

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October 24, 2021 3:48 pm
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I agree Golden, it will be a great game and I don’t think I will be heart broken no matter who wins.

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October 24, 2021 5:28 pm
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Good suggestion, I will put the game on the list and I will watch it too. Thanks for the heads up.

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October 24, 2021 9:49 am

I don’t know why you are complaining.  Isn’t this “mess” what you, the alumni with deep pockets and the media and social medias, wanted when you used your money and power to pressure AD Bohn to tear the relationship between the team and Coach Helton apart before they had time to iron out their own problems and let the season play out?  You mean you didn’t have the best interests of the student-athletes in mind?  If you did, you would have at least waited until the end of the season to make your demands.  These are young kids with emotions.  They aren’t robots.  They lost a… Read more »

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October 24, 2021 10:09 am
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Not a mistake to let Clay go, the mistake was to let him stay as long as he did. These problems are the exact same now as they have been. To think if Clay were here it would make a difference is silly. The problem with our current team is all his to own a d has been addressed over and over for the last 3 or 4 years. But soon enough we will have a new coach and hopefully it will be better. I’m certain it can’t be much worse.

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October 24, 2021 4:37 pm
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I agree, it is a lesson in life for these kids. Yes they lost their friend and HC, but we all face loses in life and we learn to keep on going. I really am not sure that many of the players are that heart broken about it, like they didn’t see it coming. Marty needs to lose his bleeding heart.

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October 24, 2021 10:38 am
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W. T. F?

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October 24, 2021 10:41 am
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Pretty sure it’s a troll. Not sure why I responded.

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October 24, 2021 10:46 am
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martyosborne’s first post on this site, and probably the last.

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October 24, 2021 11:06 am
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Anyone opposed to firing Helton when they did is a fool. Clay helped destroy the program through 6 years of incompetence, lying to the media and fan base., lack of accountability, destruction of winning culture, etc. Do you really think under Clay they would ” iron out their problems”? Trust me, no other Power 5 school will ever hire him as their head coach. He will most likely end up in Conference USA, as a QB coach.
The sooner his stench was removed, the better. It’s just a shame it didn’t happen 3 years ago.

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October 24, 2021 12:29 pm
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No doubt the direction of the football program could have been handled differently if the right moves were made at an earlier right time. And who’s to say if Mike Bohn was kept from making a HC change earlier? It didn’t take much of a brain to realize this football program was going nowhere and lead by an incompetent. But there is a hierarchy in place here that has such egos you have to find wiggle room to bypass the darling-hanger ons that have endeared themselves to this power and maybe just maybe this is the real challenge Mike Bohn… Read more »

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October 24, 2021 1:53 pm
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I will keep repeating this as long as people keep bringing it up. Over the past 2 years, Folt had bigger problems to deal with than the football coach. Those have been settled and now they can move on to fix football. I’m sure they have a budget in place for a new football staff. Lets hope it is a boat load.

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October 24, 2021 11:11 am
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Thank you for the vintage whine, Clay. How’s Ozzie?

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October 24, 2021 10:15 pm
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I just can’t take this seriously.

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October 24, 2021 9:04 am

Arguably the worst day in Los Angeles sports’ history: Lakers’ loss exposes over-the-hill Superstars. A tragedy?– No The Keystone Cops, a.k.a. as the Trojans’ football team, clumsily loses to ND again. A tragedy?– No The Dodgers fumble-bumble their pitching staff rotation to lose out on a possible World Series run. A tragedy?– No sucla cannot hold onto a 14-0 opening lead, and the Ducks prevail once again. A tragedy?– No On a far-away movie set a mother and beloved movie worker cries out that she has just lost her best friends when her co-workers leave the set due to a… Read more »

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October 24, 2021 11:21 am
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What I don’t understand is why would live ammo be used on a movie set? It should all be blanks and special effects. Maybe low budget movies like this can’t afford the special effects. Stupid and dangerous.

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October 24, 2021 8:29 am

We all knew it was going to happen. SC lost a game it could have easily won. If nothing else, what is going on with this team should make it clear what happens when you hire a person who is unqualified for the job, who turns out to be totally incompetent, and you let him run the program for 6 years. I like Arledge’s metaphor of leaving your yacht to 10 year olds. Perhaps a better one would have been leaving your yacht to unsupervised four year olds for six years and hoping they figure it out as they grow… Read more »

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October 24, 2021 12:53 pm
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The Cat was given a yacht and left it like Gilligan’s boat after his infamous 3 hour tour.

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October 24, 2021 6:56 am

Penn State’s loss to the worst power 5 team is a serious head scratcher. Can’t win the big one. Can’t win the little one. Hopefully Franklin has been removed from Bohn’s wish list, if he was ever on it.

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October 24, 2021 8:00 am
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Rushmore, A legitimate thought, but I view a bit differently. For example, SC should have beat ND last night. The problem is SC has incompetent coaching. I will give several examples in a post above. IL has good coaching (much better than SC has). Penn State is likewise well coached. This Penn State team is not very talented on offense but has a great D. The problem with Penn State is I think that Franklin’s status is unknown. Right now, he is either going to LSU, SC, or potentially staying (personally, I think he is coming to SC). Franklin is… Read more »

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October 24, 2021 1:35 pm
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Franklin’s shine is losing its luster in my eyes. I think he’d kill it recruiting, but for some reason he loses more than he should at PSU. Did great at Vandy, but since, meh….

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October 24, 2021 6:35 am

I actually got excited when USC drove and scored and got within 8 points. In fact I was partially in disbelief, but going with it anyway. That was my highlight of the game, the rest was a painful mess. Our lack of O line has done to Slovis what it did to JT, made them scared to take the snap. At least JT got out in time. Now I wonder what will this same lack of blocking do to Dart and Moss, or will it get fixed. I can’t see huge changes next year, perhaps some in a couple of… Read more »

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October 24, 2021 9:04 am
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Our line is not great, but it’s not terrible either. It’s significantly better than last year. Slovis holds the ball way too long. He just sits and waits. Eventually pressure will come, you just can’t be back there for that long and expect the blocking to hold up.

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October 24, 2021 6:34 am

It was good to see Bohn in the press box looking down on this mess. If he has any football sense, USC sense of tradition, leadership ability, and common sense, he easily can see the housecleaning that needs to be done, and that only a “world class” replacement will resurrect this moribund program anytime soon. I’m holding him to world class, per his proclamation.

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October 24, 2021 4:43 am

As each painful week of Trojan football passes by, I wonder sometimes, How have we won the games we have during these past years under Hugs Helton? It had to be on pure super athletes beating a weaker team. It certainly was not because of super coaching or fundamentals and discipline or tackling and blocking techniques being taught. It is hard to recall how long ago we were so fundamentally unfit to play at this level. Penalties, mental mistakes poor tackling, play calling, etc. it just goes on and on and on. This is truly watching insanity in football. We… Read more »

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October 24, 2021 2:43 am

USC=Unfocused, Sloppy, Childish. I’m done with this football season. After the near pick six in the first part of the game, I turned off the TV and went to bed. I could tell it was going to be another loss and am tired of all the mental mistakes. I’ll follow USC Men’s Water Polo and Basketball this Fall/Winter.