July 11th TDB Poll

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1) Will USC rue the day it left the Pac-12?
1) Will USC rue the day it left the Pac-12?
1) Will USC rue the day it left the Pac-12?
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2) How many regular-season games will USC win?
2) How many regular-season games will USC win?
2) How many regular-season games will USC win?
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3) Which schools are more likely to join USC in the Big Ten?
3) Which schools are more likely to join USC in the Big Ten?
3) Which schools are more likely to join USC in the Big Ten?
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4) How do you feel about Lincoln Riley's recruiting, both portal and prep, so far?
4) How do you feel about Lincoln Riley's recruiting, both portal and prep, so far?
4) How do you feel about Lincoln Riley's recruiting, both portal and prep, so far?
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5. How do you feel about Mike Bohn?
5. How do you feel about Mike Bohn?
5. How do you feel about Mike Bohn?
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6) Which team will win the Pac-12 this season?
6) Which team will win the Pac-12 this season?
6) Which team will win the Pac-12 this season?
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7) This season, Clay Helton will...
7) This season, Clay Helton will...
7) This season, Clay Helton will...
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8) Did UCLA make the right decision to desert CAL and follow USC to the Big Ten?
8) Did UCLA make the right decision to desert CAL and follow USC to the Big Ten?
8) Did UCLA make the right decision to desert CAL and follow USC to the Big Ten?
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9) What will Notre Dame do?
9) What will Notre Dame do?
9) What will Notre Dame do?
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10) Will Caleb Williams Win the Heisman at USC?
10) Will Caleb Williams Win the Heisman at USC?
10) Will Caleb Williams Win the Heisman at USC?
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July 15, 2022 4:55 pm
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Oh we got these guys, piece of cake! HA 🙄!

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July 15, 2022 6:35 pm
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I truly love beating Penn St, but then I love beating tOSU and really love beating Mich.

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July 19, 2022 11:06 am
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That makes sense. The reason is Ewers. He was the #1 rated QB in his class (he played for Carroll Southlake, TX – where half of my grandkids go to school), left early for tOSU for NIL money (he made $1 Million), got beat out by Stroud, and then transferred to UT. He will start this year and probably next. Then, Arch takes over.

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July 15, 2022 5:18 am

I always wonder why the best Qb is on the best team. Does having an nfl caliber line increase your Heisman odds? One person that shows how a line affects their quality as a Qb was JT Daniels. Hope he has a line this year. Is Young that good or is it that Bama is that good, same for tOSU and Stroud.

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July 15, 2022 7:52 am
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I would have thought this would have been significantly higher across the board. I wouldn’t drop 100-200K at private schools to earn 70-80K a year. Trade schools would fare very well against this list and you get paid to go there. I’m old school and think that way “you need an education!” But maybe this model is broken. I wouldn’t drop USC, Stanford, Duke, etc tuition to earn 80K a year. That makes no sense.

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July 15, 2022 9:44 am
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I notice the fine print says salary 10 years after began going whether graduated or not and received some federal aid. I would think the numbers for those who earned a degree would be higher. Notice also, no Oregon schools made the list but SDSU did. You are right Chris, probably $40-50K/year less to go to a public school versus private. And do you plan to go to Wall Street or go study Indigenous Bolivian Folk Dance!

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July 15, 2022 12:18 pm
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Did not attend USC undergraduate, degree was in Math. SC degree is in law.

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July 15, 2022 12:33 pm
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“Double Trojan” here …

Undergrad – BA – Communications Arts & Sciences, 1991

JD 1999 (took a few years to work before law school).

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July 15, 2022 12:58 pm
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I took 8 years myself from freshman at SDSU to USC grad.

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July 15, 2022 12:55 pm
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USC MS Physical Therapy ’83.
The cost back then was not as bad as today especially for just 2 years grad school. Some parent support and grant money made my loan debt manageable.

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July 15, 2022 12:18 pm
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Chris, it hit me the same way. Private universities are simply for the very wealthy and those others that will receive significant money for attendance. (SC, ND and Vandy as well as the Ivys are running about $85k a year for undergraduate tuition, books, living, etc.) FYI, I have a grandkid starting college in next month and one starting next year. I declined to help out because of the exorbitant tuition at private schools. May help out for graduate school, but as I have five (5) grandkids I felt I had to let the families choose based on what they… Read more »

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July 14, 2022 6:16 pm

Once ND figures out what they will do (could be tomorrow, next month, or sometime in 2025), Cal and Stanford will be accepted into the B10. If they apply. Currently, ND gets $15M from its NBC deal, which expires in 2025. I can’t see NBC paying $50M, $70M or more just for ND games against Navy, BC, 5 ACC teams. Nine of USC’s football games will be spoken for by then. Back to Cal and Stanford. The B10 is more an academic/research consortium than an athletic conference, The Academic Alliance and Research Consortium generate @ $1B in research revenue annually… Read more »

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July 14, 2022 6:24 pm
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There is a side you have shown which most all of the sports writers bypassed entirely. Great job Scioto, I never realized there was so much money involved in university research. Who knew Johns Hopkins was in the B1G. I would love to see Stan and Cal rescued simply so we can beat them year after year. WA would be a great add, and I agree with you about OR. If it wasn’t for Nike, they would be no better than OR. St.

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July 14, 2022 8:04 pm
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Guilty. Easy to be definitive on the Internet, But the B10 takes athletics seriously (Ohio State’s athletic program pays for itself), athletics attracts student applicants, but research drives the bus. Clemson, Oklahoma, Alabama would never be accepted into the B10.

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July 15, 2022 4:57 am
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Can never trust a Bolshevik. She has at least gotten out of the way while Caruso and Bohn weaved their magic….

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July 14, 2022 7:54 pm
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Very good perspective. Is the BIG conference all about sports, hmm, maybe not? USC is foremost a Health Care Institution, Academics second, Athletics is far down on the revenue pie (though football and men’s basketball pay for the rest of the AD).

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July 14, 2022 9:38 pm
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Big time football and basketball are the glitz that motivates pride in the institution. Like the fancy paint job and cool wheels on a car. What’s under ther hood is what really counts but the cosmetics get the looks.

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July 18, 2022 8:20 pm
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I was going to UCSB in 1974 when I came home for Thanksgiving and attended the USC vs. Notre Dame game. Growing up Irish Catholic I was a Notre Dame fan until the second half of that game. I became a born again Trojan and started USC in September 1976. We lost to Missouri and went on to win 11-straight. I was hooked!

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July 19, 2022 11:46 am
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Similar experience. Love that game!!!

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July 14, 2022 8:07 pm
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And Ohio State is also, like all the other B10 universities, foremost a health care and medical research institution.

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July 14, 2022 6:05 pm
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Men’s Basketball | July 12, 2022 Story Links EVENT INFO The USC men’s basketball team will face Colorado State at the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame’s Jerry Colangelo Classic to be held at the Footprint Center in Phoenix, Ariz. on Dec. 21, it was announced today (July 12). It is the fourth annual Jerry Colangelo Classic and USC defeated Georgia Tech 67-53 at the 2021 event. “We are excited to participate in the Hall of Fame Jerry Colangelo Classic for a second consecutive season,” said USC men’s basketball head coach Andy Enfield. “It is a terrific, well-run event which provides a… Read more »

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July 14, 2022 2:46 pm
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Allen, my guess is Washington State and UW are in the same boat. Given how important SC was to this conference, it is amazing the way they treated SC. When Pat Haden asked about being compensated for that value, he was laughed at. I think the move to the B10 was brilliant, it forced the rest of the Pac to face the consequences for its actions – accountability is rare in the academic world. The academics running the Pac for the last decade just got a dose of it. And, I do not blame Nikias for this – Nikias was… Read more »

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July 14, 2022 5:55 pm
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Cal isn’t the only PAC-12 school hurting financially. I believe the majority of the conference schools are in financial difficulty of their sports programs. There are some who plainly blame Larry Scott for the shape this conference is in today. I don’t buy that at all. I blame the majority of PAC-12 presidents for letting Scott get away with all the damage & failures he has caused and specifically UCLA Chancellor Gene Block who chaired the PAC-12 Oversight Committee watching Scott do all this.

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July 14, 2022 8:43 am
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July 14, 2022 8:57 am
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Like Coach Wonderlic—couldn’t get hired at his Alma Mater (TEN) when they had several candidates turn them down in Knoxville.

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July 14, 2022 2:34 pm
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Steve, That is funny. Donte is an elite recruiter, so far a mediocre DB coach and was a disaster as a HC. With the recruiting world changing drastically (no one has any idea how this new world of NIL is going to work out), the type of recruiting that Donte engages in may or may not succeed. If he fails to develop as a DB coach, I would be love to see another school steal him for the staff. In fact, if Donte still considers himself a HC prospect, I would welcome him leaving.

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July 14, 2022 5:46 am

My responses to the poll reflect the following opinions. Although something had to be done, unless some of the other pac 12 teams join the Big10, I don’t see this move positively. Hopefully we can get at least two more from the west coast in. If we don’t start landing some linemen, we are going to find out about basic football the hard way in two years. I suspect we will land some good ones next year and transfers might help. As for this year, I just don’t see superior play on either line, so, we’ll win some and lose… Read more »

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July 14, 2022 8:47 am
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USC will have a formidable O line this season. They were pretty good last year, now with new coaching and new schemes things will change. Do not base your outlook on anything Clay Helton produced. Yes the big guys will come, I am sure it has to do with NIL and what they can get. USC needs to get in the game in that regard.

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July 15, 2022 2:12 pm
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When USC had championship teams (Robinson, Carroll), it was able to keep the best SoCal talent at home. Granted, it’s more difficult today given NIL, transfer portal, facilities arms race and the plethora of televised games, but USC shouldn’t have too many problems recruiting quality offensive linemen when it joins the B1G Ten. IMO, a bigger challenge facing USC & UCLA will be the weather. There is no way for the Trojans and Bruins to replicate (during practice) the adverse weather conditions they will often be facing on game day during road trips to the Midwest in late fall. That… Read more »

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July 13, 2022 2:36 pm

Just returned from a trip. In my absence, Mike Bohn proved I need to doubly apologize for my doubting him and Folt. This move to the B10 is pure genius. It is amazing just how much change has occurred in the last 8 months for SC football particularly and SC sports in general. What I love the most is having the rest of the Pac wake up to just how important SC was to the conference. To be honest, the conference, as a whole, failed to realize the importance of SC to its success and seemed during the Larry Scott… Read more »

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July 13, 2022 6:39 pm
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Right on RJ, and the people that supported Larry Scott should be run out of town also. They let it happen. They deserve whatever happens now.

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July 13, 2022 7:38 pm
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No question about that Allen. ucla being in L.A. is like the brother you have that if he wasn’t your brother you would probably never have anything to do with him. ND on the other hand is simply someone you enjoy not liking.

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July 13, 2022 12:16 pm
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I don’t know how it should work but some realigning between the ACC, Big12, Pac10 and maybe Mountain West makes sense. Add ND to the mix depending who wants them. When you try to shuffle teams around it gets complicated to get even numbers. Then you have to go further down the food chain to add teams to even it out. Falling dominoes that never stops. The ACC has 14 teams now, do they kick somebody to another conference to get ND in? In the end I don’t see any way any of them will match the SEC/Big10.

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July 13, 2022 6:49 pm
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ND is going to do whatever they do, who cares. There is some great talent within the three conference to come up with a decent conference to match up with the SEC and B1G. It is as easy to create a new conference than to keep changing conference members. A guy like Sosna could do it. This whole thing about people going to different conferences boils down to the haves and have nots. The have nots are going to go to lesser conferences in time anyway.

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July 13, 2022 12:39 pm
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Cal sports may be broke but the university has a 5 billion endowment. They just don’t care about sports, especially football

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July 13, 2022 5:08 pm
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Cal is a long way for its Aaron Rodgers day, eh?

volunteerTrojan
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July 14, 2022 6:23 am
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Love that game’s ending. Vividly remember hearing it in the car while driving up to Palmdale. Each play seemed to take forever, almost like the announcers were holding their breath and not speaking.

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July 14, 2022 12:10 pm

Best game I have attended in person. It was amazing. My seats were on the 5 yard line on the shade side of the closed end. Final series was right in front of me. Still remember Cody’s sack and the receiver stumbling on the 4th down. Tedford returns this year with another hot shot QB. He probably still remembers that game!

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July 13, 2022 3:00 pm
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Allen, my advice to the Pac would be to stand pat for a year to develop a clear approach as a conference to the future. George K needs time to build a consensus on what the future vision of the Pac sans SC and UCLA is and should be. If Cal and Stanford are not going to be competitive in football in the NIL era (and I think that is a given), what impact does that have on the Pac’s future? Oregon State and Washington State may want to be competitive in the new world of NIL, but simply lack… Read more »

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July 13, 2022 3:02 pm
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Stepp is a true mystery to me. As a true frosh, he was a good a power back as I have seen at SC since Lendale White. He got hurt in the AZ game and then disappeared.

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July 13, 2022 10:30 am
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And you didn’t mention Alabama’s stringent academic requirements for student-athletes getting accepted in. I’ve heard you have to impress the admission committee with the coloring book you submit. The critical challenge here is how you color “iron”.

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July 13, 2022 11:31 am
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Now that USC will be in the B10, that Nov 19 game against the Governors, like last year’s Mercer game and every third Saturday in November game prior to the Auburn game since St. Nick arrived, is required to be called “chickenshit Saturday.”

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July 13, 2022 11:15 am
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The best defense is a good offense fending off perceptions of hidden panic. When you haven’t a clue of what your future ability to remain competitive at the highest level of CFB will be, you stand at a podium with a straight face and surprise no one with your statement.

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July 13, 2022 1:28 pm
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This story about former Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby threatening ESPN with involvement of Texas & Oklahoma moving to the SEC is interesting. Wonder how this will play out?

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July 13, 2022 6:56 pm
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ESPN should start to worry about Fox, they are coming on hard and fast. ESPN is not the power it once was.

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July 13, 2022 7:04 pm
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If only Fox didn’t have that one female announcer calling games. UGH!!

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July 13, 2022 6:55 pm
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USC was so far ahead of the game it is laughable. The entire Power Five is now trying to play catch up. One of the most brilliant moves I have ever seen, even better than the LR hire. Both were incredible in that NOBODY saw it coming. I love it.

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July 13, 2022 3:06 pm
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I think slowing down and creating a clear approach makes a ton of sense. Right now, the SEC is paying its players significant guaranteed dollars. IMO, you cannot work out how to proceed until you decide how your conference is going to handle the new world of NIL and transfers. The conferences should start aligning around a common vision as to that issue and then live with it. IMO, you cannot have a Stanford and a Texas A&M in the same conference. They do not share a common vision of how to approach the business end of sports.

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July 12, 2022 11:34 pm
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I wonder if the structure of USC NIL is a problem. If a big ugly is told you will have opportunities to cash in at USC or he is shown a check with the right number of zeros with his name on it from a Florida school, who will he choose?

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July 13, 2022 6:58 am
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I expect the OL to be vastly improved from last year with the upgrades in talent they did get and improved coaching. Getting a 5 star OL or two would have been a super human result for this year. In 2 years the OL will be loaded.

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July 13, 2022 7:03 pm
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So true, and SC needs to get some people into the game like the way others are doing. LR cannot do it, but “representatives of USC NIL” can.

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July 13, 2022 8:12 am
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I know it’s a couple of years off, but when we are regularly playing in the Midwest, thanks to our new Big 10 home we will start drawing more of the big midwestern lineman.

Right now, we are still suffering from our poor reputation of soft O-Line performance (thanks Jar-Jar Cat). Until Riley and his O-line staff prove that SC can coach up kids to be NFL draft choices in the trenches, we are going to miss out on that big beef we need up front.

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July 13, 2022 7:02 pm
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Field of Dreams doc, when LR builds it they will come. USC will pull in the needed NIL $$$$ and a lot of them will come. USC has a hands off approach to NIL from what I understand while places like TAM use the head coach to promote their NIL offers. USC needs a few outspoken boosters who can represent the NIL to the players is all they need.

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July 14, 2022 4:38 am
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Perhaps. It is certainly an entirely new world in College Football. The old ways of prognosticating just don’t work anymore.

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July 13, 2022 10:10 am
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I believe there is merit to Wasserman’s article that some of us have been concerned about. That is the recruiting of linemen or the lack of it. It is early in the recruiting process however, enough so that winning games and moving up in the National rankings this coming season can put some rethinking in recruits minds where they will sign in December. My question right now is, what’s happened to Riley’s pathway into Texas where you can find lots of linemen? Has TAM & Texas locked up all the top big boys there? There are some top linemen in… Read more »

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July 12, 2022 3:43 pm

The Pac12 was quite comfortable maintaining the status quo, being looked at as the weakest Power 5 conference with schools running in the red to participate. I will always believe that the people who run the universities should not be academics. They should be good business people. The existing leadership would just let this conference continue to spiral down, even if USC were to win and be a power house. Now they are faced with having to make business decisions they are probably not able or willing to make. These are the people that let Scott run the conference into… Read more »

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July 12, 2022 8:07 pm
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Double thumbs-up. 👍 👍

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July 12, 2022 5:56 pm
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I am reminded of a quote from Margaret Thatcher (longest serving PM of Britain), “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.” Well Cal Bear Commies, you are about to run out of your free hand out from USC. Funny how the UC schools can’t run a profit in athletics but so many other schools do. Give it to UCLA that some people there still think profit is not evil.

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July 12, 2022 6:54 pm
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A perfect example of how the left can screw anything up.

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July 12, 2022 8:40 pm
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The problem is the next generation thinks they have great ideas, till they fail again and again.

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July 12, 2022 6:00 pm
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It is a shame it has to come down to this. But it all boils down to the mismanagement of Larry Scott. With the LA area, SF area, Oregon, Az, and Wash the media market should have been at least twice as profitable as it was. The SEC hasn’t got the big media markets but have been leading in income. They are just better managed. Also the lack of support for USC during the sanctions. The problem was a very small one but was magnified by the NCAA. Now a recruit get MILLIONS just for signing. Reggie Bush himself did… Read more »

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July 12, 2022 6:04 pm
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Aren’t past drug offenses being cancelled now that drug laws have been relaxed? What was illegal for Reggie then is now a small compensation package today. Give the Heisman back, let it go NCAA/Downtown Athletic Club.

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July 15, 2022 2:40 pm
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Now that it’s basically a done deal, the UC Regents should view UCLA’s departure for the B1G Ten as a positive. The financial woes of the UCLA athletic department should be mitigated within a few years after it joins the B1G Ten (barring unbelievable incompetence in Westwood). And, once UCLA has joined its new conference, it can advocate on behalf of Cal. USC and UCLA should be very interested in having a few more west coast teams in the B1G Ten — why not recommend a couple of schools that are located in a large market, would be easy travel,… Read more »

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July 12, 2022 12:34 pm

Is it too early to talk semantics? If (or more likely when) USC wins the PAC 12, will the media call it a Cinderella season? I’m not sure I like that analogy. Cinderella spends most of her life under the control of a wicked stepmother. She has one night of dancing where she meets a guy. Along the way she loses a shoe, her coach turns into a pumpkin (we’ve had one turn into a bumpkin) and finally marries the guy who brings back her footwear. I would prefer something like; Bohn-afied resurgence or return to normal, but I’m open… Read more »

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July 12, 2022 11:20 am
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A popular new HC yes! Plus one heck of a use of the transfer portal to bring in the players to win 9/10 games. I’m ready for FOOTBALL Quoting a inspiring great athlete of another sport “Let’s play two”

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July 12, 2022 11:29 am
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The upgrade in talent and coaching combined with a weak Pac12 and schedule, there are 3 tough games this season.

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July 12, 2022 11:31 am
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Only 53 days to Kick Off! 🏈😎

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July 12, 2022 2:14 pm
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I think 9 wins is a really good season for Lincoln Riley given the massive turnover on the roster and a few tough games on the schedule.

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July 12, 2022 10:06 am

Coach Riley will move the needle big time, and return USC to the playoff’s
HOWEVER, after a seismic start of the off season, the ‘laws’ of Nature/Football have set in.. We have to be patient and turn to the ghost of the football Jedi Al Davis. Follow his wise words “Just win…baby” Win and the big guys OL/DL will come. Until then lets look forward to milling the Rice

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July 12, 2022 8:41 am

USC and Pac12, a divorce that had to happen, you don’t want to but you must. ND is supposed to be very good, Utah and UCLA could be tough, 10 wins. Oregon and UDUB most likely but wouldn’t be surprised at none. LR not landing marquee OL yet otherwise huge talent upgrade from a year ago. Bohn, juggling chainsaws while tap dancing. USC after losing to Utah in SLC, wins the rematch for the CC. GSU will get a couple more wins than last year, 5-7. UCLA, dump your partner or go bankrupt, not much of a choice. ND feels… Read more »

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July 12, 2022 10:23 am
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while on a 12 inch wide plank six stories in the air….