Game Day — Bring On the Utes!

No. 18 USC hosts No. 14 Utah with all eyes on Utes QB Cameron Rising

The injured former Newbury Park High star, if his knee is cleared, would be a major X-factor in Saturday’s Pac-12 clash

Utah quarterback Cameron Rising runs for a first down against Penn State in the first half of the Rose Bowl Game on Jan. 2, 2023, in Pasadena. (Photo by Keith Birmingham, Pasadena Star-News/ SCNG)
Utah QB Cameron Rising runs for a first down against Penn State in the first half of the Rose Bowl Game on Jan. 2, 2023, in Pasadena. (Photo by Keith Birmingham, Pasadena Star-News/ SCNG)

Luca Evans (OC Register)  —  USC defensive coordinator Alex Grinch sees Cameron Rising’s name on the depth chart, just like you.

He is Utah’s 24-year-old boogeyman looming over USC’s rapidly shrinking hopes for a College Football Playoff, clock ticking down on the quarterback’s recovery from a torn ACL in last year’s Rose Bowl – and meniscus, MPFL and MCL, as he revealed on an ESPN 700 show a couple weeks ago. Over the summer, Rising came back to his high school stomping grounds at Newbury Park to train, coach Joe Wyatt said, and was “hobbling pretty good.”

Within nine months, since the knee injury in January, Rising has progressed so rapidly that the No. 14 Utes (5-1, 2-1) are just “waiting week after week for a thumbs-up,” as coach Kyle Whittingham said this week.

“He’s bought all in to gettin’ back on the field,” Wyatt said, “that’s for sure.”

And Rising’s name has remained perched at the top of Utah’s depth chart at quarterback, even without taking a single snap in 2023. Backups Nate Johnson and Bryson Barnes, in splitting time, have largely struggled to generate consistent offense to support one of the best defensive units in the country.

So the senior is an agile, dart-throwing X-factor for No. 18 USC (6-1, 4-0) on Saturday, earning so much respect after two dynamite performances in wins over the Trojans last year that defensive coordinator Grinch said “he’s one of those guys you circle going into the year.”

“You kinda assume, at some point, he’s going to be out there,” Grinch said Tuesday. “If it’s this Saturday, I don’t know.”

The fate of not only Utah’s season, but USC’s as well, may rest on Rising’s knee. If he magically suits up at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum with a clean bill of health, he’ll instantly make Utah favorites against a Trojans secondary that held strong against Notre Dame but has been depleted by injuries. One more loss and USC’s preseason hopes for a College Football Playoff are washed away, along with a thin silver lining of an undefeated Pac-12 record.

“One big win against a really good football team here next week,” Riley said after USC’s 48-20 loss to Notre Dame, “and this whole thing feels different.”

If Rising continues to man the sidelines, though – opening up the possibility of a medical redshirt, which Whittingham acknowledged this week – Johnson or Barnes will have to try to keep pace against a fiery Caleb Williams, the memory of a career-worst performance against Notre Dame still fresh.

“We took our first loss – a lot of it being on me and things like that – that I for sure use as motivation,” Williams said Wednesday.

When Utah has the ball

Expect weirdness.

In Utah’s 34-14 victory over Cal last week, after Johnson at times had been used significantly in the Utes’ run game, Whittingham and offensive coordinator Andy Ludwig turned to safety Sione Vaki often out of a Wildcat formation – and watched him run for 158 yards and two touchdowns.

“Any way you can manufacture production,” Whittingham said this week, “then you gotta take a look at it.”

USC has had trouble, at times, containing scrambling quarterbacks – to make no mention of a safety-turned-running back put in strange formations. If Vaki gets a few carries again, or Johnson’s used as a designed runner, Saturday will be a test of the Trojans’ preparation under Grinch.

When USC has the ball

Williams’ explanation for Notre Dame was simple, and repeated: “A couple throws I always make, didn’t make.”

There’s ample evidence building, though, that those throws haven’t connected quite as often in a generally sterling 2023 campaign. In 2022, Williams averaged 8.6 yards per attempt and threw for 14 touchdowns against zero interceptions when under pressure, per Pro Football Focus. In 2023, with the same criteria, he’s down to 7 YPA and seven touchdowns against four interceptions.

The type of pressure Williams faced against Notre Dame, simply put, was too overwhelming for the Houdini escapes he often pulls. And containing Utah is an even more daunting task for USC’s defensive line; the Utes are tied for fifth in the FBS in team sacks thanks largely to the breakout of junior defensive end Jonah Elliss.

Utah’s secondary has largely been stout, too, as cornerback Zemaiah Vaughn has been targeted 28 times and allowed just 13 catches. After no pass against Notre Dame went for longer than 21 yards, USC needs a receiver – possibly Brenden Rice, possibly Tahj Washington – to be a consistently vertical threat to stretch the field.

No. 14 Utah (5-1, 2-1 Pac-12) at No. 18 USC (6-1, 4-0)

Saturday, 5 p.m.; L.A. Memorial Coliseum; FOX (Ch. 11)/790 AM

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trojandn
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October 22, 2023 8:14 am

Okay – I’m over the gut punch that USC took last night. Question-given the changing landscape of College football, NIL deals and draft status are more important to “draftable” players, especially those who might be early round picks. Should USC shut down Caleb (to prevent injury) and go with Moss to get experience both in leadership and on-field experience for the rest of the season to prepare him for the Big 10? A bowl game to Caleb, IMO, means nothing to him and USC is not going to the playoff this year…thoughts?

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Not with you on that thought. Caleb will play because he wants to, and Riley will play him unless there is no hope in a game and doesn’t want him hurt.

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October 22, 2023 8:13 am

The one thing that stuck out in Rileys presser was that he is here for the long term. I sure hope that squelched the rumors about the nfl. Riley will mature as a coach and as he does his system will change, his recruiting will adapt to todays methods ($) and his staff will by necessity be different. I stand behind him, he can take USC to the promised land, but the players and staff have to be checked in to the culture. Pretty good job by the O line and the running backs. Now back to work and see… Read more »

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October 22, 2023 7:34 am

Hey all. Still not doom and gloom, but this board bums me out. See you all in a while.

volunteerTrojan
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October 22, 2023 8:11 am
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I’ve reset my expectations. Now I’m having fun again.

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October 22, 2023 9:15 am

Well it is exciting football

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October 22, 2023 6:59 am

I can see this team collapsing. The assistants already know they will probably be looking for new jobs after the season. Team Caleb trying to figure out how he won’t end up in a dead-end, career-ending NFL backwater. Riley thinking the arrogant SC nation doesn’t deserve his brilliance.

My first game in person since 2006 and I got Helton 2.0. SMH🤬

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October 22, 2023 7:14 am
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At this rate, Helton might end up with a better season record than Riley

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October 22, 2023 7:49 am
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This needs a total rebuild after the season.

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October 22, 2023 7:49 am
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Speaking of the prior coach, I saw that both he and LR have started off their SC coaching careers with 17-5 records.

Please let the comparisons end here!

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October 22, 2023 6:57 am

Hate to say it but I’am going from 10-2, 9-3 to 8-4. Hopefully we beat the ruins and cal. I can’t see how UDub or Oregon don’t put 50 on us. Love to be wrong.
Williams is driving me crazy with the drain the clock snaps.
and the DL in the first half next week……Somebody help us.

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October 21, 2023 9:52 pm

My takeaways: Lincoln has got out coached 3 games in a row. #27 Shaw shouldn’t play another snap. He is horrible along with #13 Cobb. They got beat all game long on defense by over-pursuing or poor tackling. On the bright side, #8 Zion Branch, #51 Byrd and #90 Bear are studs. They kept us in the game.  Grinch was out schemed multiple times. 1. Having an outside LB cover speedy Vaki out of the backfield and getting beat all 3 times for huge yardage, and 2. Not having an inside LB spying the QB.   Caleb is not the best QB in the… Read more »

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October 21, 2023 10:35 pm
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Bear is undisciplined and cost the game. A freshman LB was tasked with covering Vaki. CW is trying to lower his draft status to get on a better team. He is taking too long on purpose. Fire Grinch now!

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October 22, 2023 6:51 am
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Caleb changing his draft status? That is an interesting thought…

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October 21, 2023 11:20 pm
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8-4 is optimistic.

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October 22, 2023 5:32 am
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Might get 7 … that fast Cal back will have 200 yds easily.
Not beating anyone else. It will be a stat game for a Penis and Oregon.
UCLA will outcoach this horrid staff.

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October 21, 2023 9:47 pm

How s the question everyone has got to be asking. I cannot fathom how USC could take a lead with only one job to stop a team playing without their best quarterback, but fail AGAIN! I was at a church dinner at the middle of the third quarter and had to sneak glances at my phone. I looked at my phone and Utah had the ball 15 yards away from a first down at the 45. I looked again a few moments later and they were at the 19 with 5 seconds left. How? Wow they couldn’t smack a fly… Read more »

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October 21, 2023 10:59 pm
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It was embarrassing … and predictable
How a walk on 3rd team qb with no hope of completing a pass over 8 yds runs for 40 yds with less than 15 seconds remaining is only something Grinch could come up with

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October 21, 2023 9:41 pm
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It will be uneventful. He’s just not that guy.

volunteerTrojan
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October 21, 2023 9:16 pm

Meanwhile, WA is down at half-time 7-3 to AZ St. Penix has 2 picks.

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October 21, 2023 10:59 pm

ASU pissed that one away … damn

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October 21, 2023 9:09 pm
  1. Grinch needs to be fired.
  2. CW is playing NOT to be the #1 pick in the draft.
  3. USC needs to pay, whatever it takes, 300 lbs HS O/D linemen to come to USC.
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October 21, 2023 8:59 pm

I don’t know if we win another game this year. This season is a bust of monumental proportions. But the calls to fire Riley immediate are juvenile and idiotic. Some people are detached from reality.

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October 21, 2023 9:02 pm
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Unless they are paying the buyout.

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October 21, 2023 9:05 pm
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People calling for Riley to be fired are crazy. We had Clay Helton for 7 years and would have killed to have had Riley during that time. Things will turn around but it starts with playing better.

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October 21, 2023 8:54 pm

Everyone who wants Riley gone is crazy. Who you bringing in? Silly thought.

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October 21, 2023 8:58 pm
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Jen Cohen is not going to fire Riley so let’s not even go there.

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October 21, 2023 11:01 pm
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After his dumb ass interview during the bye … who cares now
He doesn’t want to work at being a coach anymore

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October 21, 2023 8:41 pm

That was one great game!
As for USC…..this year could be a downer. Hopefully Riley learns instead of defending.

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October 21, 2023 9:00 pm
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It seems Riley has some growing to do. Lets see how he handles this loss and the upcoming two or three.

volunteerTrojan
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October 21, 2023 9:06 pm
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I’d include the off-season. LR’s model is fundamentally broken.

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October 21, 2023 8:41 pm

Did LR get out coached again? End of game time management. Why did USC have to score so quickly to get the lead with 1:47 left on the clock? Why didn’t Caleb run close to the end zone and fall down when all the Utah defenders were letting him score?

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October 21, 2023 8:43 pm
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If you replayed my living room we were all telling them that…..but….in a game its always score when you can.

volunteerTrojan
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October 21, 2023 9:04 pm
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So if Caleb sits down on the 2 yard line instead of scoring…didn’t we just demonstrate our inability to score from the 2 when we needed to (twice failing on 2-pt conversions)?

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October 21, 2023 10:52 pm

Gets 4 new downs … but yes better score then trust your D to stop the 1990s wildcat O from scoring

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October 21, 2023 8:44 pm
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They let us score … knowing F ing Grinch would choke and he did

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October 21, 2023 8:59 pm
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That is perfectly accurate. The odds with with Utah on that last drive.

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October 21, 2023 8:41 pm

Look we were 4-8 in 2021 and overachieved last year which put blinders on us from seeing that our roster was not great regardless of transfer portal additions.

So we had to know that this rebuild was going to take time.

Need to support the team and know we’ll get better.

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October 21, 2023 8:42 pm
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Wow. What ever happened to this once great program that competed for championships? Ur serious about needing to give it time? Time for what the head coach to continue to do nothing about the defense?

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October 21, 2023 8:43 pm
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Well … DC is a joke and OC is overrated

volunteerTrojan
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October 21, 2023 9:02 pm
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Fair enough, but Pete set the standard for how much time it can take to build a balanced team following a dud coach, and he did it without the quick-fix advantages of NIL and the transfer portal. So, I’m not advocating for a HC change, but to me the clock is ticking. I’d at least like to see improvement, because my untrained eye isn’t seeing any difference between this year’s team and last year’s.

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October 21, 2023 9:57 pm

We are worst than last year.

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October 21, 2023 8:41 pm

If Lincoln Riley isn’t fired by seasons end then this program has officially lost all standards.

The team is a disgrace. The performance is embarrassing. The head coach has failed, and the program needs to act quick before things get worse.

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October 21, 2023 8:42 pm
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Horribly out coached from beginning to end …

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October 21, 2023 8:56 pm
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You really think USC is going to fire Riley? Beyond belief.

volunteerTrojan
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October 21, 2023 8:35 pm

OK, time for me to recalibrate my forecast for the rest of the year. We will beat Cal and 1 other team, just not sure which among the baby bears, the dogs or the duckies. so, going 2-2 from here on out leaves us at 8-4.

We really need a new DC and a ST coach. And a lot of work on 2-pt conversions, please.

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October 21, 2023 8:38 pm

Don’t see it … will lose out
unless Cal is really bad
Outcoached early and late

volunteerTrojan
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October 21, 2023 8:39 pm
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Well, that wouldn’t surprise me either.

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October 21, 2023 9:59 pm
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Cal really sucks. And Fucla is also subpar. 8-4 is where we will be.

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October 21, 2023 8:33 pm

We are going to have play better next week and try to get back on track.

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October 21, 2023 8:46 pm
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CW might just pack it in … D shot it’s wad tonight as shitty as it is

Chris
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October 21, 2023 8:30 pm

we are what we are. Not very good. We all see it, we all know it.

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October 21, 2023 8:30 pm

6-6 or 7-5 2023 USC Trojans ?????

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October 21, 2023 8:34 pm
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Done toast … took the Utah bait they let us score
Will give up 50 some the next 3 games

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October 21, 2023 8:29 pm

That blown 2 point conversion when we took the lead killed us.

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October 21, 2023 8:38 pm
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Two awful plays none even close

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October 21, 2023 8:28 pm

Nice effort Shaw give him extra 20:yds
F U Grinch

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October 21, 2023 10:00 pm
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Shaw sucks. He shouldn’t play another snap. I was glad to see Zion playing for most of the game.

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October 21, 2023 8:28 pm

Did we score that last TD too QUICK ?????????

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October 21, 2023 8:32 pm
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They let us

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October 21, 2023 8:25 pm

With the Hype this team had all summer there are NO Moral victories !

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October 21, 2023 8:24 pm

Gotta BLOCK this field goal ……It is in very makeable range

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October 21, 2023 8:19 pm

I’m starting my prayers for them to miss the Field goal allready .

Chris
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October 21, 2023 8:16 pm

Wow, such a soft call.

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October 21, 2023 8:16 pm

Why are we always Helping teams beat us

HOF19
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October 21, 2023 8:15 pm

Dang …..Can we please STOP Helping teams beat us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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October 21, 2023 8:30 pm
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Just can’t believe this would happen. That 15 yards now could make the difference in a field goal win!

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October 21, 2023 8:37 pm
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Shaw allowed Grinch’s new Heisman qb extra 20 yds with Olay effort

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October 21, 2023 8:15 pm

The famous roughing the passer penalty again.

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October 21, 2023 8:29 pm
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Thank God it’s ending
Shaws effort was horrible
And 2 pt plays. Some genius
and F U Grich

volunteerTrojan
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October 21, 2023 8:31 pm
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Ha, I was just thinking ‘good riddance’, except I hate parting on a loss.

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October 21, 2023 8:12 pm

One open WR by them and we could be in trouble here,

USC1988
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October 21, 2023 8:11 pm

Come on D

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October 21, 2023 8:11 pm

I almost wish we took a little longer to score there.

Chris
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October 21, 2023 8:11 pm

Come in D! One stop please.

Chris
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October 21, 2023 8:10 pm

Fight on!

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October 21, 2023 8:09 pm

Spilled my beer on that one

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October 21, 2023 8:07 pm

Bear!

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October 21, 2023 8:04 pm

Qb draw or Vaki perimeter

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October 21, 2023 8:05 pm
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what a surprise that would be

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October 21, 2023 8:04 pm

Nice to see they took Curtis out

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October 21, 2023 8:02 pm

Need a miracle now .

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October 21, 2023 8:06 pm
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Wish means stopping a basic run play … bring the saftey’s

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October 21, 2023 8:01 pm

There is a wave of making mistakes going thru this entire USC Roster and the Wave has taken hold of Caleb it appears .

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October 21, 2023 8:00 pm

Raise your hand if you had Caleb whiffing on a throw. He’s had a really bad stretch of football. I hope he gets one more crack at it in this game.

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October 21, 2023 8:00 pm

Riley betting on his defense? Or onside kick?

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October 21, 2023 8:01 pm
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Onside kick is risky with our special teams

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October 21, 2023 8:01 pm
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Have to onside kick. One first down and we are done.

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October 21, 2023 8:02 pm
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lol U can’t count on this D even if they do wildcat 3 x

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October 21, 2023 8:01 pm
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Just a comedy are u kidding

Steveg
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October 21, 2023 7:56 pm

Mario didn’t drop it

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October 21, 2023 7:54 pm

I gotta post this again >>>>> WR’s Get Open !

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