Alex Grinch Is Finally Terminated

USC fires defensive coordinator Alex Grinch

After the bottom on the Trojans’ defense fell out in a 52-42 loss to Washington Saturday, head coach Lincoln Riley announced Grinch has been “relieved of his duties”

USC defensive coordinator Alex Grinch meets with reporters during the team’s preseason media day on Thursday at the John McKay Center. “We really struggled in the fourth quarter last year,” Grinch said. “Part of that is maturity. Part of that is understanding what it takes to win, learning how to win. And part of that is the mental resilience part.” (Photo by David Crane, Los Angeles Daily News/SCNG)

Luca Evans (OC Register)  —  LOS ANGELES – The coaching relationship between Lincoln Riley and Alex Grinch ends here, with an email to media Sunday announcing Grinch’s dismissal at USC, a long and winding road arriving to an inevitable destination in ugly fashion.

Grinch came with head coach Riley to USC from Oklahoma, bringing a reputation as an analytical mind and player’s coach — a guy who inspired trust, former associates said, by shooting straight and beating around no bushes — with track record to boot. He’d orchestrated a defensive turnaround under Mike Leach at Washington State, and brought a similar uptick in production to Oklahoma with a speed-based scheme; when Riley brought Grinch back for a second year at USC despite obvious defensive issues in 2022, he pointed to a history of trust.

“The long history with him — I’ve seen him in a lot of challenges, I’ve seen him come into a lot of tough situations,” Riley told the Southern California News Group in late August, before the start of the season. “He’s a grinder. He’s a fighter … it’s what he’s always done, and he’s gonna do it again.”

Perhaps the ship may have eventually turned. There’s no way to know, now, after Grinch was fired after an ugly 52-42 loss to Washington, the latest steamrolling in one of the worst defensive seasons in program history.

After surrendering 316 yards on the ground to Washington, more than triple the Huskies’ average output on the year, USC ranks 118th in the FBS in run defense and 119th in total defense. Patience wore thin, quickly, among USC’s fans and the public, with #FireGrinch seeming to trend most Saturdays in the past month: 41 points surrendered to Colorado and Arizona, 34 to an offensively-challenged Utah team, 49 to Cal. A source with knowledge of the situation told the SCNG that USC donors had grown progressively unhappy — “that’s been pretty evident” — with the season and, specifically, defense.

When asked after that Colorado game if he still had trust in Grinch, Riley responded, “Yes I do.” But after Cal, when asked if he had thoughts on future changes in defensive philosophy or coaches if poor play continued — a chance to express faith in his staff — the head coach deflected.

And for weeks, Grinch seemed like a man wholly and tragically aware of his own fate.

After Washington running back Dillon Johnson motored for his fourth score of the night on Saturday, in a 256-yard performance that left Johnson as seemingly baffled postgame by USC’s defense as the rest of the world — “My career high is 100 yards, so that tells you a little bit right there” — the game broadcast showed Grinch bent over on the sidelines, hands on knees, staring at the turf. The week earlier, after Cal back Jaydn Ott ran for his second long score of the first half, Grinch physically got on his knees in a sideline huddle with players and smacked the turf in an effort to inspire “shock and awe,” as he put it.

And in what’ll now stand as his final public words, in Tuesday’s practice, he was accountable to the point of self-demolition.

“We have to coach them through it,” Grinch said, on one answer. “It’s my responsibility to get that done, and I’m not getting it done.”

Through it all, players stood behind him, just as his players did at Washington State and dating back to his first coaching job at New Hampshire. He “expected so much of you,” said former New Hampshire defensive back Muji Karim, and it meant if players didn’t produce, they were disappointed in themselves. But in recent weeks, defensive leaders expressed veiled frustration with the lack of consistent execution.

“Kind of looked like guys weren’t ready to make the play,” senior linebacker Mason Cobb said postgame Saturday.

And in that postgame room against Washington, it was never more evident some sort of program re-alteration was necessary.

Cobb sat for some time at the back of the room, expressionless face shadowed inside a red hoodie, the USC defense’s emotional heartbeat run ragged of all emotion. Fellow linebacker Shane Lee sat a couple seats to his left postgame, eyes vacant hand resting forlornly against his cheek. Stalwart safety Calen Bullock slouched in his chair, furrowing his brows.

Grinch’s firing, though, seemed to galvanize USC’s past and future alike. Former players tweeted their relief at the move; 2024 cornerback commit Marcellus Williams fired off a “fight on” symbol.

“With the guys that are committed,” said Sam Gallegos, father of USC 2024 safety commit Marquis Gallegos, “I think it reassures us that USC is committed to winning and are willing to do everything it takes to win.”

“For future prospects, hiring someone right after the season and having him for possibly the bowl game will help,” Gallegos continued.

Therein lies the immediate follow-up question: who will be Grinch’s successor, and when? Defensive line coach Shaun Nua and inside linebackers coach Brian Odom will serve as interim co-defensive coordinators for the remainder of the season, according to USC, while defensive analyst Taylor Mays has been elevated to an on-field assistant coach and will work with safeties. It seems highly unlikely, though, that the program would make Nua or Odom permanent, given their individual roles in USC’s defensive struggles this season.

And Riley, now, without the cover of Grinch as a scapegoat, will be tested in the direction he points this USC defense.

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November 6, 2023 9:22 am
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Finally, a win. Small one but I never figured I would be a real threat to winning the contest.

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November 6, 2023 11:41 pm

Munchap GA, Minter MI, Leonard IL, Gibson NC St. If Aranana is willing to leave Baylor for a DC position l think he is clear number 1 pick. If not. I think Munchap, Minter and Leonard are my next picks. Final Gibson from
NC St. I don’t think there is any harm
looking at former defensive stand outs
too Fisher, and Del Rio could possibly pose as outside candidates for the DC job.

volunteerTrojan
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November 6, 2023 6:26 am

I know the 2024 schedule has some games with teams from the east division, but these teams are just not striking fear in my heart.

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November 7, 2023 8:34 am

Arizona, Arizona St, and Cal should not strike fear in our hearts either and they put over 30 on us. The smaller teams in the Big-10 have just as much juice if not more than the smaller teams in our own conference. IA, WI, PUR, IL, Minn are all underrated programs. And when you have MI, OSU, and PSU in your conference then obviously those other teams don’t look as impressive, however there are probably more impressive than a lot teams in our own conference. We are going to get smacked next year by a lot of those teams so… Read more »

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November 6, 2023 6:13 am

This is a year late and a season of potential ruined. Riley should have done this last year. Strength and conditioning should be addressed also. Guys need to bulk up. Need some physical linebackers. Maybe Cushing or Matthews might be interested.

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November 6, 2023 5:26 am

Riley is an Offensive guru and reminds me a lot of Paul Hackett. Hackett couldn’t cut it as a HC and I have my doubts about Riley as he stood by Grinch way too long and doesn’t seem to care about Defense. I’d like to see a Defensive-minded Head Coach and I’ve been saying for years that Jack Del Rio should be seriously considered. People have “poo pooed” me saying things like Jack didn’t cut it as a Head Coach in the NFL and doesn’t have any track record in recruiting kids to play college football. Jack DOES have the… Read more »

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November 6, 2023 5:37 am
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You never paid attention to him as a head coach. The raiders were anything but disciplined when he was the coach. Huge no on JDR.

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November 6, 2023 5:57 am
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X1000

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November 6, 2023 6:17 am
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Agree with you whole heartedly. I thought we should have went after Kyle Willingham. Riley is a ESPN darling.

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November 5, 2023 8:58 pm

So how much influence does Jen Cohen have in the new DC? How much does she know about football? How much input from football alums? LR needs to rely on others to make this choice, someone who is tough as nails and bring an attitude and bring his own staff that agrees with him. Plenty of USC defense alums that can recommend quality candidates.

Oh, lets add a S/C coach that is bad ass as well.

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November 6, 2023 8:37 am
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Jen Cohen is the AD who put 8n place the HC and others at Washington. Let’s keep that in mind.

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November 5, 2023 7:47 pm

W:45 SC:42; SC’s ball, 3rd and long on W’s 20 yd line and I say to myself, ” call a time out and remind your QB that we cannot take a loss here coz we have a FG in our pocket; call a set play, a quick throw. Instead, Caleb drops back, and he is sacked for a big loss and the FG possibility is lost. So Defense is horrible, but Offensive play calling [or lack thereof] was terrible near the end of the game.

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November 5, 2023 8:21 pm
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End of 1st half plenty of time 2 TOS … Udub D gasping, SC running left for huge yardage. Was thinking no hurry, run it, something short to Tahj. No,drop back pass fumble. Changed momentum and SC was chasing rest of the game.

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November 6, 2023 5:31 am
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Folks….this is not just about the DC.

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November 5, 2023 7:30 pm

S&C coach needs to go too.

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November 5, 2023 9:00 pm
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A defensive guru akin to LR that will pull it together somewhere down the road. Just ahead of his time. 😉

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November 5, 2023 7:04 pm
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Big 10 guys? those Os are awful with terrible qbs throughout except the 3 big boys.
Anything would be better than the crap we had but I would like to go NFL. Grab a Raven D assistant. Those guys do well.

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November 5, 2023 7:57 pm
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wishful thinking?

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November 5, 2023 9:23 pm
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I will mention a name: Jim Leavitt
He HC’d at FAU, and was DC for a year at Oregon and a few other programs. He might be at SMU right now? But
the man is good and he turns the defensive programs around in a year or two wherever he works.
Or, the Defensive coordinator or analyst from either Alabama or Georgia you wouldn’t go wrong.

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November 6, 2023 7:15 am
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I do like Tom Allen from Indiana. #1 on coaches hot seat right now. Very good defense. And he knows the B1G.

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November 6, 2023 8:42 am
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He and other B1G DCs might not be attracted to a university with a dedicated spread offense. This complicates practice, among other aspects. Methinks.

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November 5, 2023 6:05 pm

I wonder how the selection process for the new DC will go. Is SC now an ideal position for a talented DC? Is Riley the kind of HC that would attract a top DC with his own way of doing things? Will Riley accept more live tackling in practice? Will Riley give equal time to the defense?

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I don’t get the idea that Riley does not practice defense as much as offense. Nobody goes to practice for very long so how does anyone know what they do at practice. I am sure offense has one end and defense has the other end of the field with scout teams working against both giving them the looks they will see upcoming. It is for sure they come together a lot working the best against the best in scrimmages with live tackling. A new DC will change the defensive culture, in time, not over night.

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By that I meant you don’t have the D doing much live tackling when going against the 1’s. That’s what we are told.
One wonders which DC will want to join Riley, given his seemingly only focus is on the O. Then there is the need to implement a new D scheme and recruit players to begin to build a base for future years. The TP is not the answer to building a dynasty. IMHO.

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You are right about the portal for sure. A couple of guys always helps, at least depthwise. Not sure about guys not wanting to come, I am sure there are a few but I think they can find a good one. God knows we have been searching for years for a good DC, maybe this is the time. I have to look at it all optimistically or else I will be so depressed I won’t want to watch. Great comments Tirebitter.

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November 5, 2023 5:28 pm

Riley and Grinch must have had some kind of a deal, as long as we win, you are OK but if we start losing I gotta do what I gotta do. Last year with less talented players TO margin covered for the subpar play, this season, its not there.

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November 5, 2023 6:59 pm
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That Utah mess ended it.

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November 5, 2023 8:46 pm
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ND was the beginning of the end for the Grinch.

Golden Trojan
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November 5, 2023 5:22 pm

You gotta feel for the players. They give their all for their coach trying to execute his schemes. They take it on themselves when it doesn’t work. Alex Grinch will have to do a reset on his career. Maybe self evaluation will cause him to improve his abilities elsewhere. Or he takes his buyout and moves on in life. Wish him well. Failure in the public eye has to be brutal.

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November 5, 2023 5:25 pm
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he will be fine, Kiffin was canned and look what he did after, Sark was canned and look at him, Coach O was ignored and went on to win a chip! Grinch will be OK somewhere in a few years

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November 5, 2023 6:58 pm
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All about the connections and agent … especially for those two F ups
Those two will be canned again before it’s all over … it’s who they are.

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November 6, 2023 8:55 am
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Kiff was a great OC and even HC when he was forced to deal with the sanctions. Sark was always a great OC, he just had a addiction problem. Grinch, on the other hand was just incompetent, so the cases were quite different. IMHO.

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November 5, 2023 5:31 pm
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im sure it’s not fun to be publicly scrutinized and then canned, but they all
sign up for it. Eventually all coaches get fired. I’m almost 100% positive he will have a job next year. Won’t be a big school DC job, but he will be on a staff if he wants to be.

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November 5, 2023 7:38 pm
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Maybe Helton will hire him.

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November 5, 2023 8:44 pm
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😂

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November 7, 2023 4:58 pm
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He reportedly was paid some $2mm. This despite his results over the past FIVE years. One wonders how he lasted this long. I feel zero pity for him.

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November 5, 2023 7:08 pm
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It was a fleece job. He basically admitted it with the Utah wheel route gaffe. F ing guy went through the motions.
College coaching is such big money now, even these glorified jr high PE teachers are getting wealthy.

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November 7, 2023 5:01 pm
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Yes, but now the top college players get more than the top coaches! Oh, my, the changes that have been made to college football!

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November 6, 2023 7:03 am
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I see Riley taking blame for this failure to exist so long, hopefully growing into a better HC. If he doesn’t mature and stays arrogant and stubborn his days as a HC could be shorter than his contract at USC

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November 6, 2023 8:53 am
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I don’t think he will be fine. He’ll end up in a minor program, much like Helton. The final straw was to watch many of his players totally out of position when the opposition began to mix up their formations. The SC guys didn’t have a clue. I loved it when our left DB went over to the right side on a certain formation and the play was to his former side, which was wide open. I understand these players aren’t Rhodes scholars, but they can’t even understand where to line up in Grinch’s system. Reminds me of the days… Read more »

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