NBA draft: USC’s Isaiah Collier could slide and be a steal
Evaluating the potential NBA fits for former Trojans Isaiah Collier, Bronny James and Boogie Ellis
Luca Evans (OC Register) — LOS ANGELES — In early December, a day after a loss in which he missed 10 shots and seven free throws, Isaiah Collier stepped into former USC assistant coach Eric Mobley’s office for some guidance.
Two weeks earlier, the USC freshman had been mocked as the No. 1 pick in the 2024 NBA draft (Barclays Center in Brooklyn; Wed, Jun 26, 2024 – Thu, Jun 27, 2024; 5pm PT on ABC and ESPN) by ESPN after a few games of college basketball, the top-ranked point guard in the nation in the class of 2023.
But Collier’s game was a confounding paradox at this level, his offensive and defensive instincts not quite caught up to NBA-ready speed and body control. Within a handful of games, his public stock began to fall, averaging more turnovers than assists through his first nine games.
So Mobley, knowing the pressure on Collier’s shoulders, told him of his son Evan Mobley’s journey, the No. 3 overall pick in the 2021 draft after going one-and-done at USC. Collier, like Evan, was already at the top of the mountain, Mobley said.
“I told him, I said, ‘They have nothing else to do but to pick your game apart,’” Mobley told the Southern California News Group in December.
For months, since USC’s midseason collapse and Collier faded from public discourse with a monthlong broken hand, they have picked. And picked. And picked some more. Since that ESPN-pinned high point in the winter, Collier has seemingly fallen off the lottery map, the positives in his profile chipped away by prognosticators to dig up the obvious flaws beneath. He’s widely projected to be selected in the 20s during Wednesday’s first round, The Athletic even sliding him as low as 26th.
Through one lens, the souring is understandable. Collier measured just 6-foot-2½ at the NBA Combine, with a wingspan of about 6-5. His shot (33.8% from 3-point range, 67% from the free-throw line), defense and decision-making were shaky throughout his freshman year. But Collier returned in Pac-12 play after his injury with a more polished game, with few freshmen in the country matching his blend of scoring burden (16.3 points a game) with efficiency (49% from the field)
As fellow USC freshman Bronny James – understandably – has become the story of the draft amid widespread projection he could join his 39-year old father (oldest player in the League) with the Lakers, Collier’s slide could quietly make him one of the biggest steals on Wednesday at Brooklyn’s Barclays Center.
Here’s a primer on Collier, James and USC’s potential draftees.
Isaiah Collier, PG
2023-24 stats: 16.3 PPG, 4.3 APG, 3.3 TO/G, 49% FG
Likely pick range: 15-25
Team fits: Toronto Raptors (No. 19), Phoenix Suns (No. 22), New York Knicks (No. 24)
Outlook: Collier’s shot, decision-making and defensive effort are in need of continued development, but the strengths that made the 19-year-old a projected top pick a year ago – vision, strength, finishing ability under the rim – shone at times during his freshman year at USC. He’d be a natural fit on a rebuilding team like the Toronto Raptors, or a team in need of a backup point guard like Phoenix.
Bronny James, G
2023-24 stats: 4.8 PPG, 2.8 RPG, 2.1 APG, 37% FG
Likely pick range: 50-58
Team fits: Lakers (No. 55)
Outlook: Let’s table the nepotism conversation for now. James, 19, is a better NBA prospect than he’s widely given credit for, even standing at only 6-1½, thanks to his defensive upside and IQ. Even after ramping back up from a frightening cardiac arrest last summer, though, James was notably passive offensively as a freshman at USC, and needs to showcase the ability to make more confident shot-making decisions at the next level.
Boogie Ellis, G
2023-24 stats: 16.5 PPG, 3.0 APG, 42% 3FG
Likely pick range: 40-undrafted
Team fits: Miami Heat (No. 43), San Antonio Spurs (No. 48)
Outlook: USC’s captain has clawed his way into potential second-round consideration after impressing at the G-League Elite Camp and the combine, molding himself into one of the best shooters in the country across three years at USC. At 23, he faces challenges in size (6-1) and athleticism, but Ellis’ shot-making ability should warrant him a late second-round pick or a 10-day look; he’s been hosted for pre-draft workouts by nine teams, according to HoopsHype.
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Whoever we get…..we get. LR has been the head coach for 3 years. It’s his time to win or lose. No training on the job for a 10 million dollar salary…….and no excuses. As for blaming his NIL for lack of support…..dude……you’ve been at USC for 3 years…..if you have not built a support structure by now……don’t go pointing at others…..you are the head coach……and this is not small town Norman. USC is loaded with folks that are just as good at selling snake oil as you might be……and as my mentor 60 years ago taught me……don’t try to bullshit… Read more »
Aloha illinoisusc — Hawaii is just good for the soul. Having just returned from the north shore of Oahu myself, it’s a peaceful haven that stays with a person for a long time.
Hope you have a terrific month in one of the truly great places.
BTW, you can comment on the TDB from Hawaii. Hope to hear from you!
Lots of roosters and chickens where I was
Did you enjoy some shave ice from Matsumoto’s, or some fresh shrimp from Romi’s?
Bruddah Volunteer, for real good places,Shaka. Honolulu, Ala Moana Shopping Center, food court is a wonderful place for very good, ono Kau Kau. Amazing selections, any kine grub, international cuisine. Broke da mouth one time…
Peace & Aloha.
I did have some great shave ice. Such a unique, yet simple Hawaiian desert.
Went to a Turtle Bay wedding, which brought back memories of Forgetting Sarah Marshall, where that movie was filmed, though the resort has been changed a lot. Aloha!
The Lakers notify Bronny James he’s coming to them at #55.
“Your work ethic and high character mean a lot to us”
For those that have the time, go listen to locked on USC podcast. Scott Schrader joins Mark to talk recruiting. I think Scott is as close to knowing what’s happening as anyone. Good listen.
One thing about SS is he only goes so far and doesn’t report stuff he doesn’t know about. When he really knows about something he lets you know that too.
What I found were old MK podcast. What did SS say regarding USC problems since the de-commitments? Thanxs.
Maybe post a link and we can hear what he said…
The June Decommit Hits Keep Coming
6-2, 175-pound Florida safety Hylton “Drake” Stubbs decommits from USC
Scott Schrader (WeAreSC) — Jacksonville (FL) Mandarin HS four-star S Hylton Stubbs has decommitted from USC. The nearby Gators look to be in the driver’s seat with MIA also in the running.
Stubbs initially pledged to the Trojans on March 24 alongside five-stars Justus Terry, Isaiah Gibson, Gus Cordova and 2026 Florida CB Dominick Kelly.
Now, three are no longer members of USC’s 2025 class, which currently contains only 11 commits.
Per 247Sports, USC’s next class has now dropped to #31.
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Not good folks. There’s a big problem with USC recruiting. Several theories were brought up here. Plan B? Cheers.
PS. About 10 days ago, read where Stubbs said very good things about the coaches and USC. Classic lip service and messing around with the coaches and fans. Happens every year, stupid kids and games they play…
Luca Evans — Boogie Ellis will be playing in the NBA Summer League with the Sacramento Kings, per agent Derek Malloy. Big opportunity for USC’s captain after going undrafted, a three-year Trojan who made himself into one of the best shooters in the country.
“I’m a Boogie fan,” an NBA scout who had evaluated USC players told the Southern California News Group in the winter. “I just like how determined he is, and how gritty he is. He’s a smaller guard, but he does have some length. And, just like, he’s a natural leader out there.”
Lakers pick Bronny James, now reunited with his dad Lebron (first father/son duo to ever play simultaneously in the NBA), at #55 in Round 2. By far the most anticipated #55 pick in the history of the NBA.
Bronny James stats at USC — PTS 4.8, REB 2.8, AST 2.1 FG% 36.6
Obviously the LA Lakers have no interest in winning. Pick a kid not yet ready for the NBA just so he can play with a guy too old to still be playing in the NBA. Historic footnotes are better than titles.
I don’t know if Bronny James will have a successful NBA career, however that is measured. But being with his dad on the mediocre Lakers surely helps him massively. He only played at USC after having a complete cardiac arrest which delayed his entry onto a Trojan court until January in a CBB season that began Nov. 6. Could the Lakers have found any other player at the #55 spot who could quickly, or even ever, help them? I have my doubts about that, but I really have no idea. Some popular and notable hoops talking heads suggested “no” over… Read more »
scratch off is great analogy. For every Jokic there are 10000 other guys who fill out a roster on the end of the bench. If you get a 15 min a game role player out of the 2nd round you are ahead of the curve, if you get a starter you are crushing it.
100% with you on Bronny. Lebron is still a top 10 player in NBA, even at his age. He might be better than that. The guy is a marvel.
Shows you who really runs the Lakers—it’s that primma donna LeBron.
Sorry to say this,da Lakers organization is a Big Joke. Dr. Buss must be rolling in his grave. I’m no longer a Laker and Lebron fan… Cheers.
I can’t get past the fact that nobody at the #55 pick was likely to help the Lakers. There’s about a 1-2% chance of that level of a guy getting into a game. So basically, he’s practice fodder. Plaschke has it right here, obviously, like everyone else. This was done to keep Lebron with the Lakers, guaranteed, plus he’s happy, while still a pretty damn amazing NBA player. Mission accomplished. Now Bronny gets to try to survive early first-round heat in a #55 pick body. It’s really quite an interesting little sports sidebar we have coming up. Plus, as said… Read more »
OK Bruddah Allen got it. Still, dis move is a Big Joke. Since Jerry West left and da Kobe teams, da Lakers has been a sorry arse team and organization.
Shaka for You Tube, I often find myself viewing da Magic/Kareem teams and Kobe/Shag teams. Man those teams were the Great Lakers. Cheers.
Reminder: Watch the remaining USA T & F Olympic trails. Here’s da TV schedule.
Thursday, June 27, Thursday. Finals NBC, Peacock 8-11 p.m. Heats, Peacock11-11:45 p.m.
Friday, June 28, . Finals, USA Network, Peacock 8-10 p.m. Finals NBC, Peacock10-11 p.m.
Saturday, June 29. Finals, NBC Peacock 8-10 p.m.
Sunday, June 30. Finals, NBC Peacock 7:30-8:30 p.m.
Isaiah Collier (projected 15-20) falls to late in the 1st round at #29 to the Jazz.
I was just flipping through channels and suddenly came upon the NBA Draft. The first thing that flashed into my mind was Laker institution Jerry West, maybe in part because the Memphis Grizzlies were just drafting PUR C Zach Edey at #9.
In 2002, West became GM of the Grizzlies and helped the franchise win their first-ever playoff berths. West won the NBA Executive of the Year Award twice: once with the Lakers (1995) and then again with the Grizzlies (2004).
I still can’t believe Jeanie Buss canceled West’s Laker tickets. 👎
It was said that West criticized Jeanie’s relationship with Phil Jackson. Big mistake by West if true. Nothing like a woman scorned coming after you and that is why she basically ran him out of the organization.
Did anyone read the NCAA ruling on coaches? As I understand it, hire as many coaches as you want and they can all help on the field. No more advisory roles. Time for LR to hit up former players and get some guys in there that know what it’s like to win big. Also, go ahead and hire a special teams coordinator.
For sure, no excuse for not having a STC.
Finally the endless debate over STC can come to an end. Those that want one run around with their hair on fire, those that don’t care just roll their eyes.
Lincoln Riley Loves All of USC’s Advantages Steve Wiltfong (on3.com) — “There is a lot of changes we’ve had up to this point,” Lincoln Riley told On3. “We have revenue share we’re staring at that a year down the road. There is a lot about that we don’t know in terms of how that plays out. How does Title IX play out? How do collectives play out? There is a lot of uncertainties in those areas, but I do know the advantages we do have here being at this school and being in this city and all that comes with… Read more »
Let’s hope he’s seeing something we haven’t seen yet and not just giving us The Cat speak. He is right LA should have a huge advantage over the rest of the country in NIL and revenue sharing.
More USC glowing “Lincoln Speak” for you. It sounds like he really wants the job, even more than last year! Either that or he wants a nice raise/extension like OU just gave Brent Venables, his replacement. LR — “I think the beauty of this place is the combination of what you get, Such a unique combination. There is really no other comparison in college football. It’s Ivy League-level academics. It’s access to one of the more powerful cities and networks in the world. It’s a college football history that you only got one or two you can put in the… Read more »
Another C.LR lip service. Where’s my puke bag. He would make a good politician. C.LR, “Behind the scenes the last two years, everyone saw what was there, there’s been a lot of recruiting and a lot of good development that’s been going on here. People got to see that in the bowl game and I think that’s only been added to with some of the staff additions we’ve made this year.” Does dis guy really believe everything he says? C.LR & C.Helton same BS interviews and lip service. Eh, C.LR enough already, change your recruiting strategy Brah. Work… Read more »
In both 2007 and 2008, USC under Pete Carroll could have won it all… Question — Stewart, which college football seasons during your years as a fan and writer do you wish there had been a Playoff system? Mandel (The Athletic) — “The obvious first choice is the zany 2007 season, when no one could stay on top for more than a week and 11-2 LSU got tapped from among seven other two-loss teams to face 11-1 Ohio State in the national championship game. Based on the final BCS rankings, the electrifying Pat White/Steve Slaton/Noel Devine version of West Virginia would have been a… Read more »
Georgia’s Still On USC’s Mind Georgia 2025 CB Shamar Arnoux commits to USC football Chris Trevino (USCFootball.com) — USC picked up its second commitment of June, a late addition to the recruiting board in four-star Composite Carrollton (Ga.) CB Shamar Arnoux (6-2, 175) on Wednesday morning. It was a quick turnaround for Arnoux’s commitment, recently picking up his offer in the middle of June while on his Auburn official visit. He is also a New Carrollton teammate of five-star USC QB commit Julian Lewis. “Coach (Doug) Belk and I have a really good relationship,” Arnoux said. “He offered me when he… Read more »
I think he is buddies with Juju. If he committed then it would seem logical to assume Juju is a lock and will shut down recruitment soon.
College football realignment 2024: Five new conference games this fall that could blossom into rivalries Chip Patterson (CBSSports.com) — An important note of clarification before we get started: Texas-Texas A&M does not count. The restarting of the rivalry between the Longhorns and Aggies after a 13-year hiatus is clearly one of the games of the year, and when we prepare for that Nov. 30 showdown in College Station, there are expected to be SEC title race stakes involved. But considering it is a rivalry with 118 previous meetings, it did not fit the mold here. 1. Ohio State vs. Oregon,… Read more »
Hoping for the best for Collier, Ellis, and James. Recent draftees have done well in the NBA including Evan Mobley and Drew Peterson. Fight On!
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Ugh. Middle of the pack. At least I won’t have unrealistic expectations this season.
Hang in there Doc, the Trojans could surprise a lot of people. Nobody knows for sure anything about records at this point.
Michigan on the road, Penn state at home are 2 toughest conference games. I say we split those. We shouldn’t be losing to Wisc, Neb, Rutgers, or Wash, which are next best. But even if we slip against 1 of those, we are 7-2 in conference. We need to go 2-1 out of conference with a split against LSU / Notre Dame. I think we will. I think 9-3 if we lose somewhere we shouldn’t and 10-2 if we don’t. I’m sticking with 10-2 and a shot at a conference title and playoff.
Fight On!!!!
If I am not mistaken Chris, you have previously self-proclaimed yourself as the biggest USC Sunshine Pumper of all time, or something to that effect, correct? You didn’t of course use the term “Sunshine Pumper“, which just happens to be my personal fave description for ultimate USC die-hards in the face of dire adversity. So please don’t be offended if you feel that’s an inappropriate description for you. My bad. I simply find it quick and accurate to a fault, for those who fall into that category. So I would expect nothing less from you than to stick with your… Read more »
I’m a total homer and not offended easily. No worries. I’ll pump sunshine even if it’s all on my own.
I do have reasoning for the 10-2 prediction. The main reason is staff. I also think we are better across the board at every position group other than QB.
One of my fave players on USC’s team last year was 3rd rounder (#88 overall) RB Marshawn Lloyd (5-11, 215). I really look forward to watching Lloyd run for the Packers. A few NFL observers felt he was actually the best RB in the Draft. Lloyd is the first USC RB drafted in the top three rounds since Ronald Jones went in the 2nd round in 2018. Behind an often ineffective USC O-line, Lloyd still averaged a career-best 7.1 ypc last season: 820 yds and nine TDs in 11 games, along with 13 catches for 232 yds. Hopefully, the new… Read more »
Good call. We won’t have anyone as good, but as a group I think we can be same or better. Plus the line will be better. Our best two lineman are returning and Paige seems ready to be a productive LT. I think RT will be question mark. Last years line wasn’t very good at all, while 2 years ago it was really good. I think or hope, we will bounce back. it will be interesting to watch how we play this year. I don’t see Miller taking over and switching play calls too often. I think Riley will run… Read more »
Chris, what gets me is Mich is not what they were last year. They will be less, and I think USC will be better than last year. I am not sure there is a guaranteed lose anywhere on the schedule. Remember Penn St always seems to loose the big one.
There’s some sunshine for ya.