Lincoln Riley is determined to add pass-rush talent at USC, but 2025 class is light on bodies
USC has a solid commitment from Florida defensive tackle Floyd Boucard, but four-star Oaks Christian edge rusher Hayden Lowe decommitted from USC on Wednesday, a significant blow to the Trojans’ future hopes
Luca Evans (OC Register) — LOS ANGELES — The calendar flipped to October, and USC head coach Lincoln Riley became Floyd Boucard’s best friend.
In mid-September, Boucard de-committed from Oklahoma, a defensive lineman in the class of 2025 who was largely being targeted by schools in the South. Riley, though, wanted him at USC. Badly enough, as Boucard said, that they were “always on the phone.” More precisely: Riley, eventually, was calling Boucard three to four times a day.
Riley told Boucard, a 6-foot-3, 315-pound three-star lineman, that he was at the top of USC’s board, Boucard remembered. And he told him he could make him a game-changer. And he told Boucard, as agent Chris Green remembered, that if he believed in him, Riley could make him a star.
A few days into October, Boucard committed to USC. It has stuck, Green telling the Southern California News Group that they were “100% locked” with USC, amid a tumultuous 2025 recruiting cycle for defensive linemen.
“I told Lincoln, I told all those guys, like, we’re not following what other guys are doing,” Green said. “We’re not following the trend.”
“We’re coming to make the trend.”
That trend, however, isn’t quite pointing in USC’s favor. On Wednesday, prized Oaks Christian edge rushing prospect Hayden Lowe – committed to USC since June – told On3 that he was flipping to Miami. It’s a significant blow to USC’s incoming class, Lowe rated by 247Sports as the third-best 2025 prospect in California. Even more so, though, it’s a blow to USC’s trajectory as a program, as Trojan coaches have been adamant in recent weeks about the need to acquire and develop young pass-rush talent.
“It’s been huge,” defensive coordinator D’Anton Lynn said after USC’s Wednesday practice, asked about that pass-rush emphasis for USC’s 2025 class. “We don’t just want starters at those positions. We want depth, and we want young depth that we can grow, develop, and we want to be able to play multiple guys at those spots.”
There is some of that depth, on USC’s current roster. Redshirt sophomore Devan Thompkins, whom Riley lauded a couple of weeks ago, “has got the respect of a lot of people in our program,” emerging as a definite building block who has been able to create some pressure from the defensive tackle spot. Freshman edge rushers Kameryn Fountain and Sam Greene, too, have flashed some aggressiveness in chasing quarterbacks in increased roles across USC’s past two games. But the fact remains: after nine games in 2024, USC’s defensive linemen have racked up just 5½ sacks in total.
The offseason, Riley remarked at the end of October, had brought a “complete remake” on USC’s defensive line. In came new defensive coordinator Lynn. In came new defensive line coach Eric Henderson. In came widespread weight gain. But the remake, as Riley affirmed, didn’t involve simply a philosophical overhaul: there was an emphasis to continue adding “those body types on the edge and on the interior,” Riley told reporters.
“I mean, listen, we recruit every position hard,” Riley said. “I don’t know that there’s any position that we spend more time recruiting on than guys on the defensive front.”
In particular, Riley made clear then, he felt USC needed to add more edge rush talent that could consistently win one-on-one battles against tackles, and continuing to develop interior bodies who could collapse opposing pockets from the interior. As presently constructed, though, the program holds just two defensive line commits in its 2025 class: Boucard (Miami Central High) and Gus Cordova, a three-star prospect from Lake Travis High in Austin, Texas.
One potential option lies in Oklahoma, with 290-pound three-star defensive tackle Cash Jacobsen, who will visit USC this weekend after his recruitment has hit a sudden late-bloom surge.
“I mean, I’m a physical player, and I guess that’s what they’re looking for, is somebody that can get to the quarterback from the interior position,” Jacobsen told the Southern California News Group.
Henderson also visited Greene County High in Georgia on USC’s bye this past weekend, targeting current Florida State four-star commitKevin Wynn, who coach Terrance Banks said “probably wouldn’t decommit, if he does” until the early signing day. Still, Wynn sat with Henderson for 90 minutes, Banks recounted, the former Rams defensive line coach saying the 6-foot-2 Wynn reminded him of Aaron Donald.
Time, ultimately, is running out, recruits in this 2025 class set to put pen to paper on early signing day on Dec. 4. But USC, at least, has one committed defensive big body joining the ranks in Boucard.
“Don’t sleep on us, don’t keep us out,” Boucard told SCNG. “We coming.”
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https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-sanctions-southern-california-ammunition-110403997.html If Southern California truly wants to get out from under Lincoln Riley’s mega contract, the NCAA just gave the school the ammunition to do it. I don’t know if it’s as simple as this article suggests. I’m assuming LR would sue and there would be a lengthy legal battle followed by a settlement. And with Folt retiring, not sure the appetite for that around Heritage Hall. But if it is legally fairly straightforward as the article suggests, and if Cohen has a strong position in favor of moving off LR…who knows? And if so, who would you guys go… Read more »
That’s usually USC’s biggest problem. We don’t seem to have a good “picker.” And the vast majority of the best candidates aren’t coming, which is generally true for most schools. The big search ain’t easy. 😉 😉
Jen probably loves PC as AD at UDUB, she had a front row seat to his coaching the Seahawks and knows his track record at USC before. His assignment would be to rebuild the football program in 3-years or less and give way to a successor. What’s not to like in this arrangement?
I had never really even considered this before. Assuming 73-yr old Pete Carroll has the energy and really wants to get back to being a HC, he’s at least proven that he is a coach who actually knows how to rebuild a major brand like USC, unlike Lincoln Riley. I don’t think it’s in the cards, but I hope Jen Cohen is putting the screws to Riley so he starts to grasp that he needs to get a lot better in many ways if he expects to continue on as the HC at USC, especially since USC has now been… Read more »
The lawyers here could weigh in with opinions. The phrase is firing SLR “for cause”? Even if USC can’t get out without paying him a dime, at least they could negotiate a significant discount to make it worthwhile. Long ways to go to get to that point. Where Jen Cohen goes from there is anyone’s guess.
That’s easy…….. PC! And I believe he would take the job. It would be a slam dunk in the stir it would cause in SoCal. And in the national reaction it would be “ he’s too old” and that would give him the inspiration to show everyone they are wrong.
LR may be thinking that he made a mistake coming to SC and should have stayed at Oklahoma. But if he is really just a mediocre coach(it’s starting to look that way) then his Oklahoma teams would have gotten killed in the SEC so he would have gotten fired anyhow.
Looking back at Riley’s OU years, him taking the keys from a well oiled program, I believe has something to do with what we are seeing. Stoops had very long established relationships with big high school programs and cultivated those relationships for years. When Riley took over, the relationships just don’t end at OU. Stoops did the hard work and Riley was obviously the beneficiary. It’s evident that Riley does not have the chops ( extroverted personality and experience) to develop a foundational ground up recruiting system that cultivates local relationships with the top high school programs in CA. This… Read more »
SC isn’t paying the big money. If they want to win big then they better open their bank account. Are these players worth that much money? NO!!!! But that’s the way the game is played nowadays. It makes no sense to spend big money on renovating the coliseum and building other football facilities but not spend it on the players. SC has the money. They have billionaire doners. Vince Lombardi couldn’t win at SC if his players are inferior to the Oregons of the world.
USC is losing prospects for many more reasons than money.
Many other programs have better coaching and vastly superior recruiting plans and operations. There’s a big list of areas where USC needs to improve and until that’s done, big-time recruits will continue to seek what they consider to be better fits with superior chances for success.
USC has a head coach with serious fundamental flaws. Fourth quarter collapses, at OU against Baylor and OSU in ’21, against Tulane in ’22, and now 5 times this season. He can’t even follow basic football strategies. If your opponent has top rate pass defense and a mediocre run defense, what is your game plan? I you have a lead and the ball with 5 minutes left, what do you do? The answers are probably in Chapter 7 of Howie Long’s “Football for Dummies”. Someone should send SLR a copy. High school coaches and players can see who he is.… Read more »
As I have said before…..LR ha changed his offense. From 2015 until until 2021 at Oklahoma, LR ran the ball 55% of the time. That has gradually changed here at SC. This year he is running it 39% of the time. They are not having success throwing deep this year. I would think that if you want to throw deep, the best plan would be to pound them at the LOS with your running game until they start bringing the safeties and corners closer to the LOS to stop the run…..then you go over the top.
Yeah—game planning for dummies is correct. A junior high who is a big football fan could figure this out. But Riley is smugly arrogant about his football brilliance.
If I remember correctly, when Riley was at OU they had a very good O line with depth to go with it. I do believe if he had a comperable type of line at USC he would get the run numbers up higher. It will be interesting to see what Maiava can do to open up the defenses with his running ability. With his ability it makes the RPO a genuine option the defense has to be wary of.
Maybe Dana Holgerson, NEB’s new late-season upgraded interim OC (and former HC at HOU and WV) will be able to teach Lincoln Riley a thing or two about offense.
Riley clearly needs a refresher course based on his numerous bad calls and game plans this season.
It depends upon what happens in the next 3 games. I think that we will only win one of those 3 games(unless Maiva turns out to be great). But if we were to lose all 3 games and half of our recruiting class I still think that LR might want out anyway he can get out. A persons sanity is more important than money.
Could it be this is the first season he doesn’t have a QB that can turn a called pass play into a run? In ’22 and ’23 with Caleb USC ran the ball 48% and 44%, this season with Moss it is down to 40%. A steady drop off trend. Caleb ran the ball an average 8 times per game. Moss has 2 times per game.
I know many of us are very concerned, and frankly, it’s a huge shock, even though the “evidence of mediocrity” has been piling up for some time. Lincoln Riley came in with.a long runway and a “offensive genius” rep. Well, he’e been anything but a genius at USC, that’s for sure. More like someone holding a learner’s permit. And now his long runway at USC is beginning to scare most of us to death. Hopefully, LR finds a way to pull out of his major tailspin, but all these important and unfortunate decommits with possibly more to come on top… Read more »
It really did look like a great hire at first. Even Finebaum originally said it was a great hire and that SC would soon win a NC. That’s what makes it so frustrating.
Was there ever a time when getting a commitment from a high school kid was more meaningless? Flipping season is in full swing and will continue even after signing has ended. There’s much more in play these days, with NIL money and coaching changes, if Riley doesn’t start locking in local talent he’s always going to get flipped off. Building the team around kids who know each other is a better foundation than it seems. (In my opinion)
The head coach sets the tone and temperature for his team. This is a problem that I think USC might have with Lincoln Riley. Is he too soft to be a successful head coach at USC? Does he fear confrontation too much? There has to be confrontation throughout a season because of things like apathy, mistakes, discontent, losing etc. Colin Cowherd — “Players, like the rest of us in our lives, get lazy and sloppy, and need somebody to bark. Coaches such as Kliff Kingsbury, who brings optimism and positivity wherever he goes, don’t like to bark. So his teams… Read more »
LR has no bark. He never did and wasn’t trained to by his mentor Leach who wasn’t a barker himself. But the Stoops brothers were barkers and that seems to not have transcended into LR’s mindset. Why Riley can’t recruit here like he did at OU remains a mystery. Developing strong relationships with HS head coaches has always been the ticket to success in Texas/Oklahoma. Why Riley hasn’t followed that receipe here is mind boggling unless he has a bias against California kids? The possibility he hasn’t realized the historical success of USC football is tied specifically to heavily recruiting… Read more »
Yes. Rivals — Four-star CB Shamar Arnoux (6-2, 180, Carrollton, GA, QB Julian Lewis’ team-mate) flips from USC to Auburn. Shamar Arnoux has pulled the trigger on another big flip in the 2025 recruiting cycle. After a string of visits to the Plains since the summer, Arnoux has flipped his commitment from USC to Auburn just less than three weeks until National Signing Day. “I’m trusting my gut,” Arnoux told Rivlals of his decision to flip to the Tigers. “I’ve been able to build a real relationship with the staff and my gut tells me it’s right. Every time I step foot in Auburn,… Read more »
https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-sanctions-southern-california-ammunition-110403997.html If Southern California truly wants to get out from under Lincoln Riley’s mega contract, the NCAA just gave the school the ammunition to do it. I don’t know if it’s as simple as this article suggests. I’m assuming LR would sue and there would be a lengthy legal battle followed by a settlement. And with Folt retiring, not sure the appetite for that around Heritage Hall. But if it is legally fairly straightforward as the article suggests, and if Cohen has a strong position in favor of moving off LR…who knows? And if so, who would you guys go… Read more »
That’s usually USC’s biggest problem. We don’t seem to have a good “picker.” And the vast majority of the best candidates aren’t coming, which is generally true for most schools. The big search ain’t easy. 😉 😉
Jen probably loves PC as AD at UDUB, she had a front row seat to his coaching the Seahawks and knows his track record at USC before. His assignment would be to rebuild the football program in 3-years or less and give way to a successor. What’s not to like in this arrangement?
I like that a lot, Jam!
I had never really even considered this before. Assuming 73-yr old Pete Carroll has the energy and really wants to get back to being a HC, he’s at least proven that he is a coach who actually knows how to rebuild a major brand like USC, unlike Lincoln Riley. I don’t think it’s in the cards, but I hope Jen Cohen is putting the screws to Riley so he starts to grasp that he needs to get a lot better in many ways if he expects to continue on as the HC at USC, especially since USC has now been… Read more »
Yep, easy to fire, hard to hire.
The lawyers here could weigh in with opinions. The phrase is firing SLR “for cause”? Even if USC can’t get out without paying him a dime, at least they could negotiate a significant discount to make it worthwhile. Long ways to go to get to that point. Where Jen Cohen goes from there is anyone’s guess.
That’s easy…….. PC! And I believe he would take the job. It would be a slam dunk in the stir it would cause in SoCal. And in the national reaction it would be “ he’s too old” and that would give him the inspiration to show everyone they are wrong.
LR may be thinking that he made a mistake coming to SC and should have stayed at Oklahoma. But if he is really just a mediocre coach(it’s starting to look that way) then his Oklahoma teams would have gotten killed in the SEC so he would have gotten fired anyhow.
Wow, their last 2 games look like Harlem Globetrotter games! On Tuesday everybody on the team scored! The ND game on the 23rd will be a good one.
Looking back at Riley’s OU years, him taking the keys from a well oiled program, I believe has something to do with what we are seeing. Stoops had very long established relationships with big high school programs and cultivated those relationships for years. When Riley took over, the relationships just don’t end at OU. Stoops did the hard work and Riley was obviously the beneficiary. It’s evident that Riley does not have the chops ( extroverted personality and experience) to develop a foundational ground up recruiting system that cultivates local relationships with the top high school programs in CA. This… Read more »
SC isn’t paying the big money. If they want to win big then they better open their bank account. Are these players worth that much money? NO!!!! But that’s the way the game is played nowadays. It makes no sense to spend big money on renovating the coliseum and building other football facilities but not spend it on the players. SC has the money. They have billionaire doners. Vince Lombardi couldn’t win at SC if his players are inferior to the Oregons of the world.
USC is losing prospects for many more reasons than money.
Many other programs have better coaching and vastly superior recruiting plans and operations. There’s a big list of areas where USC needs to improve and until that’s done, big-time recruits will continue to seek what they consider to be better fits with superior chances for success.
USC has a head coach with serious fundamental flaws. Fourth quarter collapses, at OU against Baylor and OSU in ’21, against Tulane in ’22, and now 5 times this season. He can’t even follow basic football strategies. If your opponent has top rate pass defense and a mediocre run defense, what is your game plan? I you have a lead and the ball with 5 minutes left, what do you do? The answers are probably in Chapter 7 of Howie Long’s “Football for Dummies”. Someone should send SLR a copy. High school coaches and players can see who he is.… Read more »
As I have said before…..LR ha changed his offense. From 2015 until until 2021 at Oklahoma, LR ran the ball 55% of the time. That has gradually changed here at SC. This year he is running it 39% of the time. They are not having success throwing deep this year. I would think that if you want to throw deep, the best plan would be to pound them at the LOS with your running game until they start bringing the safeties and corners closer to the LOS to stop the run…..then you go over the top.
Yeah—game planning for dummies is correct. A junior high who is a big football fan could figure this out. But Riley is smugly arrogant about his football brilliance.
If I remember correctly, when Riley was at OU they had a very good O line with depth to go with it. I do believe if he had a comperable type of line at USC he would get the run numbers up higher. It will be interesting to see what Maiava can do to open up the defenses with his running ability. With his ability it makes the RPO a genuine option the defense has to be wary of.
Maybe Dana Holgerson, NEB’s new late-season upgraded interim OC (and former HC at HOU and WV) will be able to teach Lincoln Riley a thing or two about offense.
Riley clearly needs a refresher course based on his numerous bad calls and game plans this season.
Finebaum states that he would not be surprised if Riley is gone at year end.
I know….I know
It depends upon what happens in the next 3 games. I think that we will only win one of those 3 games(unless Maiva turns out to be great). But if we were to lose all 3 games and half of our recruiting class I still think that LR might want out anyway he can get out. A persons sanity is more important than money.
Could it be this is the first season he doesn’t have a QB that can turn a called pass play into a run? In ’22 and ’23 with Caleb USC ran the ball 48% and 44%, this season with Moss it is down to 40%. A steady drop off trend. Caleb ran the ball an average 8 times per game. Moss has 2 times per game.
It’s starting to look like SC paid Brinks truck amount of money for a mediocre coach. I hope time proves me wrong.
I know many of us are very concerned, and frankly, it’s a huge shock, even though the “evidence of mediocrity” has been piling up for some time. Lincoln Riley came in with.a long runway and a “offensive genius” rep. Well, he’e been anything but a genius at USC, that’s for sure. More like someone holding a learner’s permit. And now his long runway at USC is beginning to scare most of us to death. Hopefully, LR finds a way to pull out of his major tailspin, but all these important and unfortunate decommits with possibly more to come on top… Read more »
It really did look like a great hire at first. Even Finebaum originally said it was a great hire and that SC would soon win a NC. That’s what makes it so frustrating.
Was there ever a time when getting a commitment from a high school kid was more meaningless? Flipping season is in full swing and will continue even after signing has ended. There’s much more in play these days, with NIL money and coaching changes, if Riley doesn’t start locking in local talent he’s always going to get flipped off. Building the team around kids who know each other is a better foundation than it seems. (In my opinion)
The head coach sets the tone and temperature for his team. This is a problem that I think USC might have with Lincoln Riley. Is he too soft to be a successful head coach at USC? Does he fear confrontation too much? There has to be confrontation throughout a season because of things like apathy, mistakes, discontent, losing etc. Colin Cowherd — “Players, like the rest of us in our lives, get lazy and sloppy, and need somebody to bark. Coaches such as Kliff Kingsbury, who brings optimism and positivity wherever he goes, don’t like to bark. So his teams… Read more »
LR has no bark. He never did and wasn’t trained to by his mentor Leach who wasn’t a barker himself. But the Stoops brothers were barkers and that seems to not have transcended into LR’s mindset. Why Riley can’t recruit here like he did at OU remains a mystery. Developing strong relationships with HS head coaches has always been the ticket to success in Texas/Oklahoma. Why Riley hasn’t followed that receipe here is mind boggling unless he has a bias against California kids? The possibility he hasn’t realized the historical success of USC football is tied specifically to heavily recruiting… Read more »
AW did we just lose ( flipped) a committed 4* DB to Auburn ?????
Yes. Rivals — Four-star CB Shamar Arnoux (6-2, 180, Carrollton, GA, QB Julian Lewis’ team-mate) flips from USC to Auburn. Shamar Arnoux has pulled the trigger on another big flip in the 2025 recruiting cycle. After a string of visits to the Plains since the summer, Arnoux has flipped his commitment from USC to Auburn just less than three weeks until National Signing Day. “I’m trusting my gut,” Arnoux told Rivlals of his decision to flip to the Tigers. “I’ve been able to build a real relationship with the staff and my gut tells me it’s right. Every time I step foot in Auburn,… Read more »
Ugh. My co-Trojan Fanatic said he’d seen this flip but couldn’t find it. Now it’s out.
Inside the recruiting world, Arnoux’s defection was suspected for a while.
Now the question becomes whether his team-mate QB Julian Lewis is really headed to CU.