Legal voices see plenty of weight in Reggie Bush’s case against the NCAA
Breaking down some of the key questions surrounding the former USC running back’s defamation lawsuit
Reggie Bush at L.A. Coliseum presser with attorneys Levi G. McCathern, right, and Ben Crump, left, to talk about Bush’s NCAA defamation lawsuit. (Photo by Hans Gutknecht, LADN/SCNG)
Luca Evans (OC Register) — In the early winter of 2019, following a string of legal battles that included a waiver for current Chicago Bears quarterback Justin Fields’ transfer from Georgia to Ohio State, lawyer Tom Mars (below) got a call from the NCAA requesting he join their “Complex Case Unit.” He was given a five-year contract, officially beginning that summer.
He left after one year.
The main reason, Mars said, was a disagreement with the NCAA’s conduct of investigations – largely with the NCAA’s lack of Supreme Court obligation to employ traditional due process rights.
“Their method of doing investigations is half-assed, and that’s on the record,” Mars said. “There’s no better way to put it.”
It was the same sentiment that formed the basis for biting remarks from Reggie Bush’s lawyers at an Aug. 23 press conference at the Coliseum, announcing a defamation suit against the NCAA and claiming the governing body’s original investigation into Bush – which led to the stripping of his Heisman Trophy and collegiate records – was “terrible work.”
Perhaps, in that moment, it would have been easy to paint such statements almost as slander: a public outcry held just hundreds of feet from the stretch of seats where Bush’s No. 5 should be commemorated, they argued.
But the credibility of Bush’s case, Mars said, comes within a string of holes poked over time in the NCAA’s original investigation. In 2015, in the midst of an investigation into former USC coach Todd McNair’s knowledge of violations surrounding Bush, the California Second District Court of Appeals held that the NCAA’s report on the case “was worded in disregard of the truth.”
So the NCAA’s widely-reported statement in 2021 alleging Bush had engaged in a “pay-for-play” scheme, Mars said, left the door open for Bush to wedge in a defamation suit that won’t just call for punitive damages – it will call into question the NCAA’s entire credibility in conducting investigations.
“I know if I were one of Reggie’s lawyers, I would have a pillar of my trial preparation being what all I just talked about … and that is why, in my opinion, the NCAA put themselves at risk,” Mars said.
The Southern California News Group spoke with Mars and two other lawyers, all with extensive backgrounds in high-profile litigation, for their professional insight on the path forward for Bush and the likely outcomes of a suit with massive implications. Here’s an analysis of some key questions.
What is Bush pushing for?
Simple answer, from Bush and his team at that August press conference: restore his Heisman Trophy glory. Restore his records. Win the fight he’s been fighting for over a decade.
But it’s clear, as personal injury lawyer David Ring said, that Bush’s goal is to not just win a case in court. He’s hired Ben Crump, one of the most visible litigators in the nation and an expert in weaponizing narrative, a man who launched incendiary phrases like “plantation mentality” against the NCAA in addressing media at the Coliseum. So a major part of Bush’s push, Ring said, is trying to galvanize public opinion – putting so much external pressure on the NCAA they back down before a lengthy legal battle.
“Reggie Bush has one goal with bringing this lawsuit,” Ring said, “and that’s to bring the NCAA to its knees with respect to his situation.”
What, then, will the NCAA’s response be?
When asked about their planned response to Bush’s suit and confidence in their original investigation, the NCAA declined to comment for this story.
Their most immediate and obvious course of action, though, would be to file a motion to dismiss the case. Winning such a motion, Ring said, would be difficult.
If the NCAA didn’t win that motion, that would then induce a lengthy period of discovery before the case hit a jury – a fight that will take years of trial and error and hemorrhaging cash to defend its original stance. Would the NCAA, Ring questioned, really want to go that far?
Yes, according to Mit Winter, an attorney with a wide range of experience representing collegiate organizations in business disputes and athletes in name, image and likeness matters. The NCAA’s litigation strategy throughout history, Winter said, has been to fight to the death, rarely settling out of court.
“It just takes the position that, ‘We haven’t done anything wrong, we’re right, and therefore we’re going to litigate this until the last dog is dead,’” Mars said.
What’s the legal heft of Bush’s case?
In a vacuum, it’s quite difficult for a public figure to win a defamation suit, due to the need to prove malice behind the defendant’s statements.
It might be tough, then, for Bush to prove that malice standard with the NCAA’s “pay-for-play” comment, Ring said. But this case is about more than simple defamation, as every lawyer pointed out. It’s about cracking open a sealed history box to re-evaluate the NCAA’s original findings.
“Fifteen years later, he wants to talk about it? Okay, that’s fine,” said Brian Stewart, who represents Lloyd Lake, a former sports marketer who testified to the NCAA he had provided benefits to Bush while at USC. “But like I said, if he wants to re-litigate that case, I don’t know how that’s actually going to work.”
“I see this as a desperate attempt to get his Heisman back,” Stewart said of Bush, “and it includes a frivolous lawsuit against the NCAA.”
It’s far from frivolous, however, Mars and Ring said, referencing the outcome of the McNair trial in which the Second District Court of Appeals eviscerated the NCAA’s investigation. Another factor, too, as Crump and a high-profile legal team tackle Bush’s case: the NCAA’s general reputation has taken a massive hit amid name, image and likeness and conference realignment madness, Mars said.
“There’s never been a better time, since the Earth cooled, to be a plaintiff against the NCAA than right now,” Mars said.
What’s the likely outcome?
There’s no likely outcome in a public figure defamation case, lawyers said. However, Ring, Winter and Mars all expressed strong belief in Bush’s chances to win a legal victory that could shake the very foundation of the NCAA.
“We’re not at a card table in Las Vegas or anything,” Mars said, “but if I got to choose which side of the case I’d want to be on, I’d want to be on Reggie Bush’s side.”
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Here is a topic/ & possible hot take that may or may not be of interest to anyone. But here goes. I am not and have never been a fan of Dabo Sweeney. Is it possible that DBU wasn’t the problem at Clemson? Maybe, just maybe Dabo is a big part of the problem for the Tigers.
Dabo’s been the huge problem at CLEM because he has basically rejected recruiting through the Portal. Suddenly, schools like FSU are better and more talented.
Big mistake. Not sure if Dabo can recover. He’ll have to do an immediate about-face, or get left behind for good. But getting slapped around by DUKE? Mind blowing.
he has also had the problem of losing coordinators. maybe the new OC for clemson ain’t all that?
He does need to adjust to portal but the guy is a sure fire hall of fame coach. He has made the CFP 6 times with 2 championships. His legacy is set in stone.
CLEM’s next two games are basically cupcake encounters at home vs Charleston Southern and Florida Atlantic. Could CLEM actually lose one of those games? Then FSU rolls into Clemson Memorial Stadium on Sept. 23. I won’t be missing that one. I didn’t see any of the DUKE 28-7 loss. And DUKE isn’t a Portal monster by any means, only taking three Power 5 level transfers this last cycle. Losing badly to kick off a season to a mediocre DUKE program that hasn’t even been ranked since 2018 will bring a lot of naysayers out. CLEM is now ranked 25 by… Read more »
Objectively you are right. But my dislike is subjective. I simply do not like the man.
Stanford under Harbaugh and Shaw was smug and thought they could beat us every year. So I would love to end our last conference game with them by whipping them.
Let’s go for two ahead by 40. That’s how Woody Hayes felt about MICH.
Definitely one of my fave sports cartoons of all time! I was a SR at USC when this game was played. USC had beaten STAN 27-26 the year before, but lost to OHIO ST in the Rose Bowl, 42-21. USC easily won the ’74 game in Palo Alto, 34-10, then got some major payback vs OHIO ST in one of the best Rose Bowls ever, 18-17. STAN has always had a problem with USC. John McKay returned the favor. “I’d like to have beaten them by 2,000 points,” McKay said after beating the “Indians” (they didn’t become the Cardinal until ’81) 30-21… Read more »
I have had to witness a couple of classless crude half time shows by the Furd band. I have no respect for that school. They think they are the intellectual superior to USC and better at sports. They show that by being rude instead of respected rivals.
“Intellectual Brutality” has been their slogan for years.
It was catchy when they consistently seemed to have running backs who could break your arms and QBs like Andrew Luck in charge,
“ACC here we come” sounds so much more appropriate now!
It’s just so bizarre that all these Pac-12 teams (what a group of QBs!) that are captivating CFB today are headed off to other far-away conferences in 2024.
Thanks Larry and all you highfalutin’, head-in-the-sand Pac-12 presidents (Carol Folt being the notable exception).
The issue is indeed a large part Scott. The real problem was the Presidents who hired him and kept him on for six years. Despite the mess Scott left behind, the conference could have been saved IF (1) they had merged with the B12 when TX and OK left OR (2) the Presidents (save Folt) would have had any common business sense OR (3) if an experienced commissioner had been hired to replace Scott (instead, the PAC hired got GK, who candidly had no clue what he was doing or up against – I do not blame GK – he… Read more »
How many think Primetime will be coaching an NFL team at this time next year, or by 2025? Yahoo.com — “With the advent of NIL, and the transfer portal, the day is coming fast when the college head coach will be neutered, and he will be frustrated that his players’ first priority is cash. Just like the pros. “The players may love Deion, but they’re going to love money more. “Because that’s what the college player is now; he’s a pro, wearing a college uniform. Most problems that exist in an NFL locker room are coming to a college locker… Read more »
Allen, I really think Prime is a collegiate coach, not a pro coach. And, he will be formidable. If Prime succeeds hugely this year, it will send major ripples through collegiate ball. Riley turned SC around in one year, with transfers and roster change; Prime did the same, only with THREE times the roster change that LR engaged in. It is possible that some new coach will bring a totally new roster with him in the near future. In the era of NIL, I could see a coach having significant NIL backing bringing in a totally new team. Should be… Read more »
I agree with Rjj, DS is great as a college football HC. He is a great motivator and can attract talent. Time will tell if he has the chops in big games. From what I read, NFL players tired quickly of rah rah coaches. It’s all business, tell us what to do, and we will do it as best we can.
The Power of Primetime
The CU/TCU game was the 4th most streamed game in Fox Sports history.
I can’t wait for the NEB at CU game this weekend. This is quite simply can’t-miss stuff.
9 a.m. PT Fox
There hasn’t been much talk about the bogus Targeting call Saturday. I believe the number one tool to use against our defense this season is the penalty that carries an ejection the way Targeting does. Watching and rewatching the “foul” Saturday I saw two players lowering their heads at the same time, which resulted in incidental contact. With the removal of intent to harm from the rule, comes the completely unnecessary judgment call. If a defensive player is in the correct position to make a tackle, and the offensive player lowers his helmet at the right moment, the defensive player… Read more »
I can’t define “targeting”, nor do I know what it is. You’re not supposed to use your head to make tackles, which I totally agree with. But the widespread diverse and heavy-handed application of the targeting penalty just seems to result in players getting kicked out of games excessively. I don’t know how defensive players in today’s game often go about knowing how to get players to the ground in some situations without technically violating the targeting rule as it exists. While the careful monitoring of targeting is obviously incredibly important in football for the sake of the human brain,… Read more »
To me, what is missing from the targeting rule is two levels as we have for face mask and roughing the kicker penalties in the NFL (i.e., 5 yard and 15 yard variety). The targeting rule should stay as is, and only be applied to true cases where the defender clearly goes head-hunting, and there should be a 10-yard penalty for incidental contact to the head that does not carry ejection. That is enough to encourage avoiding the contact, and only egregious cases then result in sitting a player. And, by the way, in this scheme, every ejection should come… Read more »
you are making too much sense for the minions at the NCAA, Rock. No soap.
I just finished watching “Swamp Kings” on Netflicks. It is the story of Urban Meyer’s run at FL. It is also an excellent inside look at a major collegiate football program. I highly recommend it. Language is a bit rough for those offended by such things. Several things really struck me. I think the first is the impact on the kids. Urban talked about his major regret as a coach. One of his kids got involved in a domestic violence dispute – he hit his girlfriend (a very common problem, which I totally condemn but I think our society mangles… Read more »
Spot on RJ. The elites are now not only accustomed to the attention, it has grown into the desire for lots of money because they are so good. I am paying attention to who turned down USC from MD, and want to see how they come out at the school they chose. Was the money worth it? Did they develop into the player they needed to be?
USC loses Gino Quinones for the season with a lower leg injury Quinones was projected to be a vital piece of the USC offensive line this season after playing in all 14 games in 2022 with two starts, one at right guard and one at left guard. Quinones had only appeared in six games and had not played an offensive snap prior to the 2022 season. Quinones was also one of USC’s best backup options for starting center Justin Dedich. Looking ahead, the Trojans hope for further development from freshman OG Alani Noa, who started at LG for USC in the opener, and… Read more »
Fight On, Gino. We are pulling for your full recovery.
Who is back up center ?
I think the depth chart showed Killian O’Connor, a soph.
Gino out for the season.
Bad loss … frosh will need to grow in a hurry
It’s amazing to me how NEB lost yet another nailbiter to MINN in Minneapolis, 13-10.
Talk about a snakebitten outfit: Coming into this season, the Huskers (not in even a bowl game appearance since 2016) were a sad 2-13 over the 2021–22 seasons in games decided by one score or less.
Suddenly, it hit me. NEB will beat CU straight up in Boulder this weekend (9 a.m., PT Fox).
I predict Matt Rhule’s grimace will turn into a smile after he takes on Coach Prime and his suddenly ranked (AP 22, Coaches 25) Buffs this weekend.
I hope so. I want Nebraska back when USC goes into their conference.
Early start, CU riding high not ready to play, Prime too busy talking shit … Huskers simply don’t know how to win and will lose a close one here too. But it will be scary for CU.
Suppose NEB loses another heartbreaking one-score late outcome game. In that case, I hold out little hope for the continued sanity of hardcore Husker fans who must figure they have been drop-kicked into the Twilight Zone or Night Gallery by one of Rod Serling’s diabolically unusual characters. Serling had a great, unforgettable voice, was only 5’4″, and was too slight to be allowed onto the varsity football team. So that’s where some of that drive came from? The diminutive Serling had 17 flyweight boxing bouts as a highly decorated, war-hero-type paratrooper in WW II, and was pretty tough with the… Read more »
Allen: thank you for sharing Rod Serling’s background. I didn’t know much about him, but certainly remember his distinctive voice as he opened the TV Show “The Twilight Zone”. I remember when NEB was basking in the light in 1971-72 when they won National Championships. I’ll never forget UCLA going to NEB in 1973 and running all over them using the “Wishbone T” Offense with Mark Harmon, a.k.a. Leroy Jethro Gibbs of NCIS, at QB for the Bruins. Pepper Rodgers was UCLA’s HC. Without “Googling” and as my memory serves, I think UCLA steamrolled NEB something like 63-10. That same… Read more »
AP Top 25 Week 2
1. Georgia
2. Michigan
3. Alabama
4. Florida State
5. Ohio State
6. USC
7. Penn State
8. Washington
9. Tennessee
10. Notre Dame
11. Texas
12. Utah
13. Oregon
14. LSU
15. Kansas State
16. Oregon State
17. North Carolina
18. Oklahoma
19. Wisconsin
20. Ole Miss
21. Duke
22. Colorado
23. Texas A&M
24. Tulane
25. Clemson
Notice the highest ranked Big12 is Texas @#11 and Alabama will knock them down this Saturday. Looks like the winner of the Pac12 should get a playoff spot is they don’t lose more than a game or maybe 2.
“Too Little, Too Late”
This should be the Pac-12’s slogan for 2023.
GT,hope you are correct. It is very possible that the winner of the PAC will have at least two losses. While we all hope for 12-0 for SC, I just do not see it happening when we play six top 25 teams and UCLA.
Boy, do we ever have a brutal schedule! I do not worry about rankings until much later in the season, but based on what I have seen so far: Oregon State. It did not just beat SJS. They brutalized them. I turned it off in the 3rd Q because it reminded me of an execution rather than a game. This team will be a load for every team it plays. It is a team that plays and is put together a lot like Utah. I would NOT want to play them in Corvallis. CO: A clone of the 2022 Trojans… Read more »
What an amazing year for QBs in CFB this season!
Seems like there could be as many as 7-8 first-round QBs based on the performances of so many signal callers so far this season.
US LBM Coaches Poll — USC remains at 6 after getting leapfrogged by FSU
The US LBM Coaches Poll is conducted weekly throughout the regular season using a panel of 66 head coaches at Football Bowl Subdivision schools. The panel is chosen by random draw, conference by conference plus independents, from a pool of coaches who have indicated to the American Football Coaches Association their willingness to participate. Each coach submits a Top 25 with a first-place vote worth 25 points, second place 24, and so on down to one point for 25th.
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Totally expected FSU to get jumped over SC ….. But to me it is not where we are on September 5 2023 ….. But where we are say ….This coming X-mas morning ………. FIGHT ON !!!!!
If USC hadn’t looked disappointing and defensively inept against SJS, who also got easily handled by ORE ST, we would now be in the prestigious top 5, always a cool above-the-fold position.
Or maybe USC would have been leapfrogged by FSU anyway because we don’t play anyone any good until ND.
Both CLEM (now 21) and LSU (14) got deservedly whacked big-time.
Allen I lean on this being a rankings “problem” for the next few weeks for SC when you said >>>>> ” Or maybe USC would have been leapfrogged by FSU anyway because we don’t play anyone any good until ND.”
I think USC would be #5 right now had our D not looked so porous again right off the bat vs SJS. Many don’t care about the polls at this stage, whereas I’ll take a top 5 USC ranking any week I can get it. In the end, as speculated for many months now, our season truly seems to begin in the middle with ND, UTAH, CAL, UW, ORE and UCLA, who all looked pretty strong in their openers except UCLA. Maybe CU will turn out to be a much more worthy opponent after dusting off TCU so quickly. Not… Read more »
Allen when I think of Sports subjects under the category of “Biggest screw-ups EVER ” I look at today’s AP Poll Announcement where they have USC at #6 ….. Washington #8 ….. Utah #12….. Oregon #13 ….. Ore St #16….. Colo #22 and under the AP POLL Category ” OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES:” UCLA (BOO) And even Wash St . And THAT’S THE CONFERENCE THAT DISSOLVES ?????…I mean I gotta nominate it as Worst Conference management EVER !!!!!
SC might get a boost in 4 weeks if Colorado still looks decent. But now is the time to sit people who are making mistakes, play the #1s, and run up the scores to make a case they are a top 5.
By the way, what a nice problem to have, it’s great to be a Trojan again!
What’s Clay Helton’s feeling about USC’s ranking? He must think USC has more “warriors” than ever on the team now.
He’s got his new “warriors” that took it to the mighty FCS, 4-7, Citadel!
Allen, I think we agree that Colorado may be fairly good, but it seems to me that depth will be their downfall, as it was at USC last year.
Probably wouldn’t have changed the rankings, but certainly it hasn’t helped having the nation’s best football player on essentially a private inaccessible network for most of the nation for the first two games, plus starting at 10:30pm this coming Saturday. The soon-to-be-dead p12 couldn’t do a worse job of promoting its teams if it tried.
Who says FSU played anyone good? LSU looked on par with San Jose St. It is only because everyone put LSU there based on last year or Kelly’s reputation. Now they are exposed. The voters lose face if they drop LSU beyond 14, where they should be down with Clemson in the twenties. Man, I hate early polls. Have I already said that?
The NCAA has a skewed sense of righteousness, which can and should shut it down forever. With the recent court backed rules changes and losses in court, the NCAA has become a useless slug.
Through the myth of amateur athletes and presumed ability to control student movement, the NCAA has built an empire of unfairness. The end cannot come soon enough. I predict the realigned football landscape will bring an end to the NCAA in the next five years with the league’s governing themselves and the Bush case will be the catalyst for change.
In the far off future can we look forward to the great grand children of Reggie Bush go to court to get his Heisman trophy returned. Will this saga ever end?
it won’t take that long….