Is the Pac-12 really this bad? Why the league has no TV deal without USC and UCLA
Pac-12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff makes his opening remarks at the start of the Pac-12 media day at the Novo at L.A. LIVE on July 29, 2022. Genaro Molina / LAT)
J. Brady McCollough (LA Times) — A few days after USC and UCLA forever altered the college sports landscape with their move to the Big Ten Conference last summer, the Pac-12 announced that it would begin its exclusive 90-day negotiating window with ESPN and Fox for its long-awaited next media rights agreement.
The move by Pac-12 Commissioner George Kliavkoff to begin that process early was meant to quickly gather information that, at least theoretically, could calm the nerves of the remaining 10 schools and keep them from looking to follow the Los Angeles schools out the door to surer footing.
But nine months have passed, and the Pac-12 remains without an agreement.
Meanwhile in October, just weeks after the Pac-12’s exclusivity window closed, the Big 12 jumped the Pac-12 in line, negotiating a new six-year deal with ESPN and Fox worth $2.3 billion. Remember, in the summer of 2021 the Big 12 had been left for dead by many after Texas and Oklahoma sneaked away to the Southeastern Conference, but it expanded with four new schools and stabilized.
A side-by-side comparison of how the two disregarded Power Five leagues handled their existential crises does not paint a pretty picture for Kliavkoff and the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors, who could have had their pick of the Big 12 leftovers to guarantee the survival of the West Coast’s premier conference.
Of course, USC (here in 1962 as undefeated national champions) was the ringleader against Pac-12 expansion and then bolted for greener Midwestern pastures when the opportunity arose.
Kliavkoff could not have stopped the L.A. schools from pursuing the chance to double their revenues. Now he is stuck trying to assuage the 10 disgruntled remaining members and hold off increasing pressure from Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormark, who seems to have the better hand to play all of a sudden and doesn’t mind being the aggressor.
This is the backdrop for men’s basketball conference tournament week, when Kliavkoff will be working in Las Vegas to convince his athletic directors and presidents that he has a viable plan that can help them thrive, not simply survive.
Here are five things to know about the Pac-12’s mess:
1. Are USC and UCLA to blame?
In the most literal terms, yes. One person I spoke with last week who is plugged into the media rights world thought the Pac-12 could have gotten a deal for a half-billion dollars if the L.A. schools were still around. Without USC and UCLA, it appears to be a struggle for Kliavkoff to negotiate an attractive package for the $300 million or so it would take to stay in the ballpark of the Big 12’s deal.
With the Trojans and Bruins in tow, the Pac-12’s deal could have placed the league an easy third behind the Big Ten and SEC. But here’s the thing: USC in particular was not feeling like letting its massive football brand be used to dole out charity payments to the rest of West Coast programs any longer.
One of the most obvious takeaways from the L.A. crosstown rivals’ bold move to the Big Ten is just how much only the big brands are going to matter going forward in college sports. That may not be collegial, but it’s the new reality.
Adding USC and UCLA made the Big Ten a rumored $250 million extra annually to be distributed among the other 14 schools. The Big Ten and SEC are now so far ahead of the lesser three Power Fives that the excluded big football brands — other than Notre Dame, of course — are frothing at the mouth to get their due.
There’s a reason Florida State athletic director Michael Alford told the university’s board of trustees recently that “something has to change” in regard to the revenue gap between the Seminoles and their desired peers at the top of the sport. Florida State and Clemson could demand unequal revenue sharing from the Atlantic Coast Conference, but that’s just a recipe for unanimous unhappiness.
It could be argued Washington and Oregon are the most attractive available brands after FSU and Clemson, but they’ve already been told no — at least at this time — by the Big Ten.
USC and UCLA could have made a decision to preserve the college sports map for the greater good, but that would have been bad business — at least, if the L.A. schools want to be in the business of competing for football national championships in the modern era.
2. What is the Pac-12’s best option?
Conversations with two well-placed sources in the media industry not authorized to speak publicly about negotiations chalked up some of the Pac-12’s struggles to strike gold as unfortunate timing. There are much bigger issues at play than the lack of buzz about Pac-12 football when you remove Lincoln Riley and the train of five-star quarterbacks he will bring to L.A. from the equation.
For one, the country’s greater economic situation has even the biggest spenders examining their margins a little more. In the media space, that’s true, too, with Disney telling ESPN that it has to be more selective than it’s been in the past. The expanded College Football Playoff, for instance, is going to be up for grabs in the coming years. Getting a piece of the marquee events is paramount, and saving up for those just means there’s less to offer for one Pac-12 “After Dark” game per week. As one person said, the Pac-12 is a “nice-to-have,” not a must-have.
Fox can fill its Saturday late slot with Mountain West games on FS1 and not have to spend any extra on the Pac-12.
Kliavkoff has said from the time he took over as commissioner that the Pac-12 would consider streaming platforms such as Apple TV and Amazon Prime Video, but streamers are losing hundreds of millions of dollars a year right now and aren’t going to overpay for the Pac-12. Even if Prime Video or Apple did come through with favorable financials, either would lead to an extreme drop in exposure compared to the Pac-12’s peers whose best games are all over the air.
What good is a couple extra million per year if recruits and fans aren’t able to easily access your product?
There are no easy answers for Kliavkoff, which is why his schools have no choice but to keep an open mind about their future conference affiliation.
In the short-term, Kliavkoff has to make sure whatever final offer he brings forward keeps the Pac-12’s top football programs relevant, even if the money isn’t what he or his predecessor, Larry Scott, promised. That means ESPN or Fox has to remain a partner.
3. Will the Pac-12 expand?
Reports have linked the Pac-12 to San Diego State and Southern Methodist as expansion candidates, and Kliavkoff gave the world confirmation of his interest in the latter by attending a SMU basketball game last month.
Sure, the Aztecs would keep the league in Southern California, and the Mustangs would open up the Dallas market. But let’s not act for a second like the Pac-12 presidents and athletic directors want to share a penny of whatever their distributions are with fresh blood from the Mountain West and American Athletic.
The only reason it would make sense to consider adding these schools is if the Pac-12 is preparing for the possible departure of more schools. In that case, out of desperation, the league would have no choice but to strategically raid the Group of Five.
4. How should Washington and Oregon feel?
When USC and UCLA left for the Big Ten, many assumed Washington and Oregon would be next, forming a Western pod, of sorts. But the Big Ten decided to stop at 16 teams with the L.A. schools. The Huskies and Ducks could still end up on the Big Ten ark in the future, though, so there’s incentive for them to not box themselves into anything too strict in the coming years. More consolidation of top brands is likely to occur.
As long as they can still play on national TV, Washington and Oregon’s best option is to stay in the Pac-12 and ride it out for a bit longer, gunning for one of the automatic conference champion berths in the expanded 12-team playoff.
But the calculus could be different for Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah.
The “Four Corners” schools — Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado and Utah — don’t have to waste time thinking about the carrot of a Big Ten invite down the line. They could be enticed by the Big 12’s newfound stability, which comes from the fact that the league members already have accepted they aren’t likely to draw interest from the Power Two — the SEC and Big Ten — at any point in the future. The Big 12 is as good as it gets, and they’re all working together to make it better.
Arizona surely would be drawn by the Big 12’s identity as one of the nation’s top basketball conferences, especially now that it’s without UCLA as its top historic rival in the Pac-12.
It’s hard to know which way the desert winds would blow Arizona State.
Utah, given the current strength of its football program, could see the benefit of staying in the Pac-12 and pushing for playoff berths in the short- term. But it also might not risk being left behind, given how hard it has worked to gain national respect.
If Colorado has any buyer’s remorse from its Big 12 defection, this could be the time to make it right again.
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USC to add Defensive analyst Gregg Brown. Quite a resume.
Thanks to a Gascon backed DA, a horrible Mayor( Ted Wheeler) who would rather align with Antifa than the police, and other left wing loon running the city, Portland is almost lawless, and overrun by homeless. Oregon is turning into a grease fire, and the only sensible people left want to secede and become part of Idaho. No way I would consider even visiting there, or let a child go to school there.
My brother lives east of Eugene (he’s a big Ducks fan), it very nice there, except for the meth heads living in the forest and starting fires!😡🔥
In Portland if you want to get elected you are ultraliberal or antifa! What a choice!
With all due respect, there are only two Walmarts left in Portland and according to Walmart HQ, those two stores are being closed due to low performance. It should be noted that Walmart is also closing stores in Arkansas, Washington D.C., Florida, Illinois, New Mexico, and Wisconsin. While it would be easy to blame the closures on crime/shoplifting and taxes, there are far too many factors that go into store closures. And let’s not forget that the “retail” shopping experience has completely changed over the last 3 years of the pandemic.
With all due respect, Portland has become a crime-ridden trash heap. In fact, the entire state of Oregon is alarmingly losing population for many reasons over the past few years.
The latest federal census numbers show Oregon’s population is shrinking for the first time in decades, especially in the Portland metro area. And it’s losing residents at the sixth fastest rate.
These truisms are consistently supported by recent factual articles too numerous to list.
True it may not all be due to crime. Portland is home to the Anarchist Movement (otherwise known as Antifa). A very anti corporate mentality, anti modernization, anti gentrification in Portland. I once read where Portlandians pick a restaurant partially on if the building is old or newly built, it must be old. Portland also dominates the politics of the rest of the state.
You are right Golden, and they all want to leave Oregon and join Idaho. Hope they do it.
What have you been smokin’, girl?
Portland is losing Walmart and numerous other stores due to ridiculous massive crime/theft problems, as well as high taxes.
This can’t be good for Duck and Beaver football. Just a very bad look.
It also cannot help that Oregon has decriminalized all drug possession and use. I would never allow a child of mine to attend school in Oregon. All kids are going to experiment with drugs of some type – in my era it was alcohol. Given that drug addiction is real and that NOW all types of drugs will be readily available in Oregon, I would not run that risk. Remember what Phil Knight said last election, “A guy is snorting cocaine out of straw. What is illegal in Oregon? The straw.” It is not by accident that the southern and… Read more »
But L.A. has always been viewed as a crime-ridden place, even when I attended in ’70-74. Even The Row late at night wasn’t always viewed as safe. Portland is new to the bad crime scene, and low crime used to be something they could sell. No more. USC has always had to deal with the “bad area” anchor, and frankly, it hasn’t hurt Trojan football, which has always been viewed as the much tougher inner-city L.A. program. But I never thought I’d see Portland become part of the ‘hood”, and now so much so that a giant retailer like Walmart… Read more »
I went to Home Depot yesterday in San Diego. Needed new lithium batteries for a cordless drill. Man all the cordless stuff from chargers to weed wackers were locked up tight. You had to find someone to unlock what you wanted and they take it to the register. That’s what soft on crime does for you. Thanks West Coast Liberals! My daughter and husband moved to Portland, houses are 50% that of Bay Area/So Cal. The place is funky. People would rather live in a broken down 100 year old house than tear it down and build a new modern… Read more »
Sad. I’m sorry for this downturn in Portland, a place I used to find very pleasurable while visiting in the past.
Utah has a window when its program has very high value do the the talent of Kyle Whittingham. It is a bit like BYU in the Lavell Edwards days. They should count on a rocky period after he retires. My guess is the Utah leadership is smart enough to realize this; the issue is what will they do about it.
You’re begging the question RJJ. What would you do if you were UTAH?
Gamble on a reduced-value/uncertain future Pac-12, or bolt for the now much healthier Big12, assuming they would cut you a fair entry deal?
Easy. I would be negotiating with the B12 and see what is there. I would make my decision when the numbers from the PAC were a lot clearer. I would put the burden on the PAC to give me a really good reason to stay – beyond a reasonable doubt standard. If I did not see that developing, I would leave.
Why would the Big 12 need to negotiate? They already have 14 teams, and ASU (and the Phoenix market, which is similar in size to Boston) reportedly isn’t happy in the Pac-12, which is already permanently fixed behind the B12 in guaranteed media money because GK got quickly outfoxed. UTAH may have to worry about losing out in this game of musical chairs, which gives them even less bargaining power the longer they wait. If it’s true that ORE and UW would jump to the B1G if offered, I don’t see the Pac-12 as even surviving, let alone thriving. And… Read more »
While we both speculate, my guess is those negotiations have already been ongoing. The B12 will negotiate because they want Utah to join the B12. Or put another way, they view Utah would bring value to the B12. But, they will also need to add another team (obvious candidate is CO). I would not envision this as a tough negotiation, but more of a cordial one. It is to the advantage of both sides to come to an agreement. As you state, Utah is in a very tough place. They have to know that both OR and WA would jump… Read more »
An interesting possible monkey wrench in this scenario is BYU, already officially entering the Big 12 with CIN, HOU and UCF on July 1. BYU fans desperately don’t want their hated rival UTAH in the Big 12. And the biggest markets in Utah are with the Utah Jazz and BYU. The Utes are definitely down the line from those two, notwithstanding Kyle Whittingham’s pretty extraordinary success in SLC. Is UTAH big-time without Whittingham? I think so. After all that he has done, I don’t see UTAH turning back. But even though the Big 12 would like UTAH’s market, they already have… Read more »
Goes to show when I think I understand an issue, I really do not. If BYU wants to lock up an exclusive for the state of Utah, then Utah has no option but to hope the PAC makes it (or CO protects Utah). I cannot imagine that the B12 will view Utah favorably, as BYU has delivered the SLC area media market and Utah has little value to add. Really stinks for the Utes. I doubt ASU and AZ will have to same issues. The only way Utah will come is if CO is willing to leave (and delivers the… Read more »
USC transfer WR Gary Bryant to visit Eugene
DucksWire — A new report from 247Sports says former USC Trojans WR Gary Bryant Jr. will visit Eugene next week to check out the Ducks before making his final transfer decision.
Bryant has already visited ARIZ and MIA, and he plans to take a visit to A&M as well before deciding at the end of the month…”
yahoo.com
Boogie Ellis and Drew Peterson are the third Trojan pairing in the last six years, and the sixth since 1990, to make the Pac-12 first team. Reese Dixon-Waters is the first Trojan to win the Sixth Man award since Glenn Smith in 1984-85. Shotgun Spratling (USCFootball.com) — USC first-team All-Pac-12 selections since 1990 2023 – Boogie Ellis, Drew Peterson 2022 – Isaiah Mobley, Drew Peterson 2021 – Evan Mobley 2020 – Onyeka Okongwu 2019 – Bennie Boatwright 2018 – Jordan McLaughlin, Chimezie Metu 2016 – Julian Jacobs 2011 – Nikola Vucevic 2008 – O.J. Mayo 2007 – Nick Young 2006… Read more »
Thanks for sharing this list Allen! Harold Miner was on three years in a row. Loved watching “Baby Jordan” play. Sam Clancy was one of my favorites too. What a great team with him, Bluthenthal, Trepagnier, Glanville and Scalabrine. My favorite all-time team was 1971-72 with Paul Westphal (his brother Bill was my High School’s Coach), Joe Mackey, Ron Riley, Dan Anderson and Mike Westra.
Amazon, Apple and Disney, like so many publicly traded corporations are in a cost cutting mode to boost profitability. That will make harder to get a great media deal. The days of growth without profit are over, at least till inflation gets tamed and interest rates come back down. If Oregon, Washington and the 4 corners don’t like the deal George gets they will bolt for greener pastures or lose their Power 5 status.
At one time I was all for USC going independent. I knew they could draw opponents to play in football, but I am not sure about basketball or baseball (these days). Anyway USC has been the west coast draw for as long as I can remember. It make sense they would take advantage of their drawing power. It makes me wonder why the PAC 12 didn’t do more to protect their assets when the NCAA dropped a hammer on SC. Looking back it’s hard to guess if it was incompetence or jealousy that left the Trojans twisting in the wind.… Read more »
I do feel sorry for usually outmanned ORE ST and WSU. There has always been something quaint and exciting about their out-of-the-way occasional/infrequent success. Yet I don’t feel sorry for ORE, UW, or STAN and CAL. In fact, I love that STAN and CAL are most definitely facing quality football extinction. I’ve always liked the Huskies (my dad’s favorite team), and in recent times disliked the Ducks (who really capitalized on the NCAA’s total illegal takedown of USC football). I figure ORE and UW eventually slither their way into the B1G, though if they can find a way to hold… Read more »
I do not feel sorry for any of them. OSU and WSU should have realized the importance of SC and protected the SC program. Instead they went along with the extremely unfair sanctions and then went along with Larry Scott’s “parity” program, the Pac 12 network, and emphasizing Olympic sports. Had they moved to protect SC and fought Scott, I would have some sympathy for them. What is the old saying, “You make your own bed, so sleep in it.”
At least ORE ST and WSU were always seemingly trying to be their best, and as far back as the O.J. days, the “Giant Killer” Beavers under Dee Andros were a thorn in USC’s side, beating USC in ’67 3-0.
STAN and CAL always acted like they were too good for CFB (JMHO). That may be a strange way of phrasing it, but I lack a better description.
Watching those two programs wring their hands now while being left behind brings me pleasure that doesn’t come with watching ORE ST and WSU deal with their uncertain futures.
Not sure if it is true but I have heard mentioned that the legislative bodies in Oregon and Washington may demand they keep the schools in their states connected. Oregon and Oregon St in the same conf. WA and WA St in the same conference. If that comes about the B1G is going to not be interested.
Rialto, What I find amazing is that SC leaving the PAC showed the value that SC brought to the PAC (and the now revived UCLA BB program will bring). They literally doubled the value of the league. When it was obvious that it would be impossible to realize that value in the PAC (and it was), they took that value to the B10, where it was able to realize that value and then some. This move by SC and UCLA (and my guess OK and TX) has significantly changed the landscape of collegiate sports. Those teams stuck in non B10… Read more »