Alexander: USC is totally reeling after its second straight brutal loss and a continual series of struggles
Last second loss to Utah has closed the door on Trojans’ College Football Playoff hopes
Jim Alexander (OC Register) — LOS ANGELES – It probably is too simplistic, and maybe unfair, to say that Utah coach Kyle Whittingham owns Lincoln Riley. But after USC’s third straight loss to Utah Saturday night, this one in excruciating fashion, the thought came to mind that Whittingham not only owns him but might contemplate renting him out as an Airbnb during the summer.
Utah beat Riley’s Trojans twice last season, a 43-42 regular season thriller in Salt Lake City in October and a 47-24 rout in the Pac-12 championship game in Las Vegas. Saturday night’s result was even more excruciating, a 34-32 Utah victory on Cole Becker’s 38-yard field goal as time expired, just 1:46 after USC had taken the lead for the first time since late in the first quarter.
USC’s shot at getting to the College Football Playoff is done, of course. It was probably done after last week’s rout at Notre Dame, but the Utes definitively slammed the lid shut. USC’s chances of getting back to the Pac-12 championship game are fading fast, too. The Trojans are 4-1 in conference but after facing Cal next week in Berkeley – presumably a breather, but you never know – they get Washington here and Oregon in Eugene. By the time they face UCLA in the Coliseum on Nov. 18 they could be playing for a spot in the LA Bowl.
Not exactly what anyone here expected, right? It’s definitely not what the high-priced, high-profile coach was expected to deliver.
Riley insisted that his team is still focused, though at times in his postgame remarks he discussed outside distractions, at one point saying, “When you get too focused on the outside things, which I think, at times, our team has been, then a lot of times you can miss an opportunity right in front of you.”
The question involved those national championship aspirations and the impact they can have on young athletes playing for a glamorous program in a glamorous city with seemingly limitless NIL opportunities. Certainly, those can be head-spinning.
But you can also make the case that the biggest outside noise generated here – even bigger than the weekly criticism of the Trojans’ defense – was of Riley’s own making a month ago when he attempted to bar SCNG beat writer Luca Evans from access to the team for two weeks. He reversed that decision after two days, but not before he and the USC program received a firestorm of criticism from coast to coast.
The attempt to control the narrative continues, incidentally. No players were made available following Saturday night’s loss.
As for this week’s defensive report, consider: Utah (6-1 overall, 3-1 in conference) entered Saturday night 122nd in the nation in passing offense, 149.5 yards a game. Bryson Barnes, who had thrown 66 passes all season for 79.6 yards a game, was 14 for 23 for 235 yards and three touchdowns, and Utah added 247 yards on the ground for a season-high 482 yards total offense. The other times they’d topped 400 this year were against Weber State and Cal.
Barnes and Nate Johnson have both played in the absence of Cam Rising, who is still recovering from multiple ligament tears suffered in last January’s Rose Bowl. Rising was No. 1 on the depth chart going into Saturday’s game, but Whittingham said afterward he’ll be shut down for the rest of the season and likely will seek a waiver to regain a year of eligibility.
“We’re six games in, (and he’s) not ready to play, nope,” Whittingham said. “We’ve been hoping for him each week, but the medical staff is the one to make those calls, and we’re not going to question that at all.”
Consider, also, that Whittingham maintained faith in his stopgap quarterback even after Calen Bullock’s 30-yard interception return for a score early in the fourth quarter. “Bryson is our guy, he’s our quarterback, and we have confidence in him,” Whittingham said. “We just keep moving forward with the guys that we have healthy.”
Bullock’s score brought USC within 28-23 on a night that its offense sputtered plenty after the first quarter, and made it close enough that two decisions by Riley to settle for Denis Lynch field goals – on a fourth-and-9 from the Utah 27 at the end of the third quarter, and a fourth-and-15 from the Utah 19 with 3:03 left – turned out to be significant. In an era where coaches can be foolhardy on fourth down, these were sane decisions.
Equally significant, if not more so: On the two touchdowns the Trojans did score in the fourth quarter, Bullock’s pick six and Caleb Williams’ 11-yard run on a quarterback draw with 1:46 left for a 32-31 lead – immediately following a 61-yard punt return by Zachariah Branch – they went for two both times and misfired on each.
Making either one would have meant that what turned out to be the game-ending kick would only have forced overtime. Come to think of it, kicking both extra points would have meant the same.
And it all went awry anyway, when Utah went 75 yards on 11 plays in the final 1:46, helped by two reviewed plays, three timeouts and three penalties, including a targeting penalty on Bear Alexander at the end of a third-and-9 play that moved the ball from the Utes’ 26 to their 49. The other key play was a 26-yard rush by Barnes on second-and-15 with 16 seconds left to get the ball to the Trojans 19, well within Becker’s range.
“It comes down to little things here and there, and we haven’t quite played clean enough here in the last couple of weeks to take advantage of it,” Riley said. “We have played very hard, and the guys really sold out. We got a lot better this week at practice, and our fight cannot be questioned.”
But it’s obvious that this has not been a well-oiled Trojan machine in recent weeks, with the second-half defensive collapse at Colorado, the far more difficult than necessary overtime win over Arizona, last week’s debacle at Notre Dame and Saturday night’s soul-crushing loss to the Utes. Even Williams, last year’s Heisman Trophy winner, hasn’t quite seemed himself lately.
Maybe it’s an aftereffect of the Trojans’ major use of the transfer portal. Maybe the coaching staff isn’t quite getting through to these players the way it did initially. And maybe those distractions – self-inflicted and otherwise – have taken a toll. But something seems off.
Riley can say all he wants about practicing well, but the proof comes on the field – and on the scoreboard – on game day. And right now, harsh as it might sound, these Trojans don’t seem that much more disciplined than those of the Clay Helton era.
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LR may believe his team is still focused but there are many including me that feel he is not focused when it comes to game clock management. He just doesn’t believe in milking a clock when he has the chance to take the ball away to end a game. And he will lose more games that way no matter what he believes his team’s focus is.
That is a great list of very good defensive coordinators. I could be happy with just about any of them, especially the guys aquainted with the B1G. Leonhard, Allen, Aranda would top my list.
USC Senior Offensive Analyst Kliff Kingsbury, who famously and almost immediately jilted USC as their short-lived OC for the Arizona Cardinals, must be relieved he bolted for all that NFL money after feeling the immense USC pressure cooker around him and Lincoln Riley.
He’s seeing firsthand what it is like for highly regarded Riley to be a 17-5 Trojan coach in a downward spin. What a world it must be for these coaches to try to survive at the highest levels of football.
Just some perspective on a Tuesday morning to all my TDB friends… Nick Saban was 39 when he got his first head coaching job at Toledo. It took him 14 years to win his first national championship when he was 53. Football in Toledo in 1989 was in no way similar to the pressure cooker that is USC football in Los Angeles in 2023. Saban’s mistakes and missteps there and then will never be known, but rest assured he made plenty. His learning process and development occurred out of the public’s eye, and by the time he emerged on the… Read more »
Jonathan Smith…..somebody is going to get a good coach……it’s obvious that Oregon St in a conference like the mountain west is not going to be able to pay him competitively.
Wonder where he lands…..Michigan St?…..his current contract runs thru 29 but it’s only 4.8 million per year which is very little these days. Buyout is just a few million.
I know we are stuck with a huge contract so I’am not suggesting him for us.
I remember in 1972 sitting in the upper student section at University of Illinois memorial field……USC came to visit…….at the time I knew very little about football being a basketball guy…….it was a sunny nice day in the midwest…..my roommate and I were looking at the USC sideline……our mouths dropped open…..the USC linemen were literally twice the size of the Illinois boys. We laughed and had a hot dog (which was a big treat for a kid from the wrong side of town) and by half time it was pretty much over. Our coach called our guys fine young men……and… Read more »
Good rant. I agree too that LR needs to rethink his approaches to both offense and defense, which I expect him to do. Right now he’s in the toilet with both approaches, especially since USC’s back half of the schedule started. Funny you mention the size of USC linemen back in ’72. We were big and mean back then (even though football players are bigger today). There was no messing around with some of those big Trojan ballers either, as I witnessed a couple of times as a student seeing how they handled themselves at parties and off the field.… Read more »
In Champaign (U of I won 5 national championships in an earlier time) the owner of the white horse saloon at one point gave up trying to replace the big front glass because the football players including Hicks and Butkus (a few years before me) used to throw guys out the window regularly……I’m sure that must have hurt. They were a mean bunch.
Yes, the U of I is BIG. 6300 acres. 651 buildings. Most of the BIG are BIG. Wait til you get to MICH stadium. Land is cheap in the midwest. It used to be top 10 or top 5 in quite a few things. Now Accounting and Engineering are still good. Has one of the largest libraries in the world. A huge nuclear program. I’d walk 45 minutes to get to the stadium. Over 35,000 undergrad and a huge grad school, mostly foreign students. The coach inherited a mess (sound familiar) but for the resources he has and realizing Illinois… Read more »
I saw #2 MICH host #1 ND in Ann Arbor in 1989. It was one of the most amazing games I have ever witnessed. I was on the MICH sideline as their guest that day, and the players were as hyped up as any I have ever seen, with blood already smudging their pants and arms during aggressive pre-game drills. I asked a Wolverine coach, “Are you guys always like this?” He replied, “Nope. But this is the Notre Dame game.” (MICH leads the series 25-17-1). “The Rocket” scored two exceptional TDs for Lou Holtz and the Domers with back-to… Read more »
That game … so much anticipation, and the heavy rain somewhat ruined it. Except the Rocket. Also, ever the cheater Granny Holtz snuck in a game the week before though it was always suppose to be he season opener. Bo was furious when it was scheduled during the summer. Granny Holtz, of course, used his famous dumb act to spin it.
Wow what a difference a couple of days make. Facebook has gotten worse than Wolf’s blog on a bad day. Here are few of the things being peddled by so called sports services. 1. Lincoln Riley has been in talks with Las Vegas and a deal is days away. 2. Caleb Williams is considering sitting out the rest of the season and considering concentrating on the draft. 3. Attacks on Caleb’s character have ramped up with the sheep billowing like never before. I wouldn’t be surprised to see more attacks before the weekend. The fact is;USC lost a penalty aided… Read more »
How Notre Dame broke USC John Kennedy (Fighting Irish Wire) — Of all the action that occurred last weekend, Southern Cal losing to Utah’s backup quarterback and a last-second field goal had to be the highlight for Notre Dame fans eating cheeseburgers all weekend. “King” Caleb Caleb Williams has been making dollars that register in the millions since transferring to USC. He has major mainstream endorsement deals with brands as large as Wendy’s and is the “king” of football in LA. This was supposed to be the year for him to fully cement his college legacy. Win a title for the Trojans… Read more »
Excellent observation vT! So glad you pointed that out. Amazing insight for the “untrained eyes” you and I, and so many others possess. Domer reporter John Kennedy was so happy to see USC flounder badly that he practically wanted to personally take credit for it! Sounds like a weak reporter who just had to try give ND credit for something it didn’t deserve. At least that’s how I felt about his take. Read his entire article if you have time. I didn’t include all the bad stuff. West Coast life, and in particular Hollywood and the beach, is so vastly… Read more »
Kennedy is also breathing a sigh of relief after holding his breath all year hoping that last year’s pounding in the Coli was not the start of another multi-year beat-down series led by LR. So he has respite for another year. He’ll find out soon enough that ND has hit their ceiling while the Trojans are just beginning to rebuild into another juggernaut that will once again make him and all his Midwestern cronies into California dreamers.
Every dog has his day, as they say. ND definitely had theirs against us.
They still have PITT, CLEM (away), WAKE (where they stole their QB from) and STAN (away) to play. Hopefully, they somehow lose a couple of those. I’ll sure be rooting for the Tigers to beat them after suffering a 35-14 beatdown in South Bend last year.
Talk about a heartbreaker season: twice CLEM has already lost in OT this season: 28-20 to MIA, and 31-24 to FSU.
CLEM should have a good shot at dumping the Irish big-time, at least I hope so.
Riley has to get humble real fast and hire an asst Head Coach who manages the defense, maybe some of the Mich St guys! I also have to wonder if Kliff Kingsbury has anything to do with the offensive struggles and not running the ball! Don’t start running soon and those guys will be hitting the portal.
Thought for you all- Our basketball team recruits like crazy. I know that our NIL plays a part in bringing in 5 star basketball players. So it’s not a USC issue, it has to be a LR issue. Am I off base?
USC Football: Lincoln Riley Alters Course on Championship Hopes The media keeps receipts! Matt Levine (SI.com) — After another disappointing loss for the USC Trojans, they now find themselves in a strange spot. This team entered the season with championship aspirations and the dream of going undefeated for the season. But in just two short weeks, that all vanished right before their eyes. The Trojans were handed their second straight loss, this time to the Utah Utes at home. It was a frustrating game that saw USC lose at the last second. But the issue isn’t that they lost at… Read more »
Oh, poor, poor USC. Can we get a Kleenex for our desperately underachieving Trojans! Actually, it seemed like the press deeply loved USC for all of its 11-3 Season One bravado, from what I remember. Lincoln Riley was hailed as the long-awaited, smoother-than-silk Trojan savior. We even got off fairly easy despite literally throwing away the Cotton Bowl in an unthinkable fashion. And the press even hung in there with the 2023 6-0 Trojans, all the while explaining (to those who would listen) that big danger loomed ahead. Well, now after two straight horrible losses, that danger finally arrived and… Read more »
The press will be the press. USC always has the power to control the narrative. Just win, baby, playing tough 3-phase football, and the press will fall all over itself fighting to be in the front row of the pressers.
Game of the week: Utah 34, USC 32 Jon Wilner (Bay Area News Group) — News of the week: Utah After the victory at USC, coach Kyle Whittingham went public with the worst-kept secret in the conference: Quarterback Cam Rising and tight end Brant Kuithe have been shut down for the rest of the season. They will take medical redshirts, allowing for the possibility that both could play for Utah next season. We won’t begin to guess their intentions, but the circle would come full for Rising, whose career began in the Big 12 (with Texas) and could conclude there.… Read more »
Everyone thinks beating USC is a big deal. Not that team that got out played, coached, and out muscled, at all positions by Utah. Someday it may be a big deal to beat USC, but not right now.
Trojans at a Turning Point Antonio Morales (The Athletic) — In the wake of USC’s loss to UTAH on Saturday night, I couldn’t help but think this team really misses someone like Travis Dye and the leadership he brought. Dye was never one to shy away from pointing out when USC was slipping on the details, playing with some complacency, or not meeting its standard. He knew the process mattered as much as the results. The results were there for the Trojans through their 6-0 start this season, but the process has seemed to be lacking. The season opener against San… Read more »
The talk about firing Riley is totally absurd. Michigan has hung with Harbaugh through thick and thin and look where they are now. Probably the best team in the nation. It took him a few years to build it but now he has the defense and offense to win the NC. USC needs to be patient. I am betting Riley is going to realize his errors, mature, and take the program to the championship level. Can’t do it without jumping all in on recruiting like the others are, with some cash up front. I have been against it but I… Read more »
I rarely watch a game when I know the gist of the outcome, but I wasn’t able to see any meaningful part of the game. I was blindsided by a church outing my wife signed us up for before asking what time the game was. I managed to get the game on the Gameday app, piped through my hearing aid, and listened to the first half while cruising the San Diego harbor. The second half was at a restaurant and I deliberately put my back to the TV because yelling, “Throw the F**kin football,” isn’t the way to impress the… Read more »
In addition to a new DC and a Special Teams coach, Riley needs a real OC on the sidelines calling the plays. The HC needs to be free to see the big picture. He can always over rule a play called. Bear hit him helmet to helmet instead of hands first, good call. Instead of Byrd on the outside Grinch sticks a freshman in, 3rd on the depth chart to cover the RB who beats him twice! Fire Grinch already.
If LR told any of his staff members they were coaching for their jobs against UTAH (as many advocated), what does he tell them now?
Of course, I highly doubt LR put any extra pressure whatsoever on his unsatisfactory staff before the tough UTAH loss, but that’s exactly what some think is part of the problem inside USC football right now.
And now USC has to already worry about assistants who may already be angling for their next jobs, which is just a fact of life amidst CFB’s constantly revolving doors.
Let’s get that Trojan Ryan Nielsen (1997-2001) he is doing a great job as DC with the Atlanta Falcons. Throw him some major $$$ and say you are HC in waiting when LR retires early or wants summers off.
Unless one of your staff is being formally reprimanded, don’t threaten firing them till it is time to do it. They should have an idea their performance is subpar though.
Well, whatever LR’s doing now, and has been ever since the Cotton Bowl fiasco, isn’t working. All the Kool-Aid he pumped out turned out to be empty goulash, so now the media is outwardly laughing at him. He makes way, way too much money to perform in the mediocre way he has been. So backlash is gonna happen. My point was really about accountability, not threatening to fire people, since firing anyone mid-season isn’t even a realistic or desirable option here, especially for USC after almost 20 years of relentless turmoil. Now LR’s stuck with a hole-filled program, uneven talent,… Read more »
The Cat and his feeble operation have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Lincoln Riley’s complicated task at USC now and the two situations aren’t even remotely comparable.
I wouldn’t be surprised if LR and Caleb went as a package next year to an NFL team like the Chicago Bears. Chicago is a big market with a loyal fan base. I’m not familiar with the ownership, but it has to be frustrating to see the team struggle with its current Head Coach and Quarterback. It will be interesting to see how things unfold after the season is over.
USC announced a KO time for 4:30 p.m. PT for its highly anticipated matchup with No. 5 Washington on Nov. 4 in the Coliseum (ABC). The game has lost some juice with the Trojans essentially out of the College Football Playoff hunt thanks to a two-game losing streak, but it still represents a massive game with conference implications.
The Washington – Utah – Oregon – USC round robin has begun. Huskies and Utes are 1-0, Ducks and Trojans 0-1. How will it end? Oh and Cougs, Beavs and Buffs just waiting to trip someone up. Beavs already tripped up Utah.
Well I have digested the results of the Saturday loss. What is gone, National Championship, a CFP berth, likely Conference Championship and a spot in the CCG. What do I have to look forward to, beating the Bruins and Bears, spoiling the Huskies and Ducks seasons (not likely but possible), going to a decent bowl (hopefully not lay an egg). We got sucked into the media and coaches hype. It got SC relevant again and sold tickets/TV viewers. These calls to fire LR are simply ridiculous. LR is 40. Kyle Wittingham was playing for the Rams before LR was looking… Read more »
The problem for Lincoln, whom I am still 100% behind, is that he started to dig his own grave once he immediately took the USC job and started talking about championships at USC — which I think he said could and would be achieved fairly quickly. I also seem to remember some of his comments about turning USC and the Coliseum into the “mecca” of college football, though I could be wrong or delusional there. It’s all coachspeak of course. But in view of how USC has looked lately and the already declining Coliseum attendance, LR faces bigger challenges now,… Read more »
Let’s see if Lincoln Riley can do it? He’s got a lot to prove after USC’s recent trend of dismal performances.
He looks like he’s an absolute screaming nervous wreck on the sidelines with all of his fits against the refs. Yet LR seems calm and relaxed during his increasingly Helton-like pressers.
Hopefully, LR gets his act together, and comes up with some better solutions than denying the obvious look of USC, and hiding players from the press, post-game. Sorry, that doesn’t work in L.A. Lincoln.
He isn’t Boob Knight … just screaming to scream. Actually like how he isn’t taking any shit from these hacks.
Fire Grinch and this will solve 3/4 of the problems.
That was my point. LR’s lengthy screaming episodes vs the refs where he’s running all over the field like a maniac don’t work. I didn’t see McKay, Robinson, or Carroll do that even once in my lifetime. It’s now an every-week thing with LR. LR needs to focus on what’s important, and right now, there are questions as to whether he even knows what that is. Maybe LR should call Kiffin or Sark, neither of whom has been wildly blown out this season, lost on the last play of the game, cluelessly tried to kick a reporter off campus, or… Read more »
The torturous Helton years will never be forgotten, and Riley should never be compared to that clown. But I sure wouldn’t say that USC or LR is doing “great” in any way these days. Frankly, LR’s team has looked like crap for five straight weeks and is lucky to even be ranked at the very edge of the Top 25 now. We’re basically there, just ahead of James Madison, because of our “brand”. I still have hope that Riley will loosen the reigns on his stubbornness, and bring on some better assistants while making some other badly needed adjustments (such… Read more »
This new wave of coaches are lost in the lifestyle and the big money.
If it doesn’t work out, oh well,Jimmy Sexton or these other con agent will bribe some dipshit AD for another gig.
Like most big money businesses, coaching is just a big con job.
I sure like how Detroit Lions (5-2) coach Dan Campbell addressed yesterday’s blistering 38-6 loss to the Ravens and the fantastic Lamar Jackson. How refreshing to hear a coach tell it like it is.
LR may believe his team is still focused but there are many including me that feel he is not focused when it comes to game clock management. He just doesn’t believe in milking a clock when he has the chance to take the ball away to end a game. And he will lose more games that way no matter what he believes his team’s focus is.
Here’s an interesting list of candidates for the Hopefully soon-to-be open DC position.
https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/lists/if-lincoln-riley-does-fire-alex-grinch-here-are-his-top-choices-for-a-replacement/
lots of good candidates—should have been done this past January!
That is a great list of very good defensive coordinators. I could be happy with just about any of them, especially the guys aquainted with the B1G. Leonhard, Allen, Aranda would top my list.
USC Senior Offensive Analyst Kliff Kingsbury, who famously and almost immediately jilted USC as their short-lived OC for the Arizona Cardinals, must be relieved he bolted for all that NFL money after feeling the immense USC pressure cooker around him and Lincoln Riley.
He’s seeing firsthand what it is like for highly regarded Riley to be a 17-5 Trojan coach in a downward spin. What a world it must be for these coaches to try to survive at the highest levels of football.
Just some perspective on a Tuesday morning to all my TDB friends… Nick Saban was 39 when he got his first head coaching job at Toledo. It took him 14 years to win his first national championship when he was 53. Football in Toledo in 1989 was in no way similar to the pressure cooker that is USC football in Los Angeles in 2023. Saban’s mistakes and missteps there and then will never be known, but rest assured he made plenty. His learning process and development occurred out of the public’s eye, and by the time he emerged on the… Read more »
Jonathan Smith…..somebody is going to get a good coach……it’s obvious that Oregon St in a conference like the mountain west is not going to be able to pay him competitively.
Wonder where he lands…..Michigan St?…..his current contract runs thru 29 but it’s only 4.8 million per year which is very little these days. Buyout is just a few million.
I know we are stuck with a huge contract so I’am not suggesting him for us.
Per The Athletic, USC has now surrendered a whopping 48 plays of 20-plus yards.
That’s 131st among 133 FBS programs.
Only 1-7 UMASS and 4-4 USF rank lower. That’s not exactly ideal company to be keeping.
Independent UMASS coach Don Brown makes $816,000 in 2023.
American Athletic Conference USF coach Alex Golesh makes $2.5 mil in 2023.
If that’s not an indictment of Grinch, I don’t know what is.
I remember in 1972 sitting in the upper student section at University of Illinois memorial field……USC came to visit…….at the time I knew very little about football being a basketball guy…….it was a sunny nice day in the midwest…..my roommate and I were looking at the USC sideline……our mouths dropped open…..the USC linemen were literally twice the size of the Illinois boys. We laughed and had a hot dog (which was a big treat for a kid from the wrong side of town) and by half time it was pretty much over. Our coach called our guys fine young men……and… Read more »
Good rant. I agree too that LR needs to rethink his approaches to both offense and defense, which I expect him to do. Right now he’s in the toilet with both approaches, especially since USC’s back half of the schedule started. Funny you mention the size of USC linemen back in ’72. We were big and mean back then (even though football players are bigger today). There was no messing around with some of those big Trojan ballers either, as I witnessed a couple of times as a student seeing how they handled themselves at parties and off the field.… Read more »
In Champaign (U of I won 5 national championships in an earlier time) the owner of the white horse saloon at one point gave up trying to replace the big front glass because the football players including Hicks and Butkus (a few years before me) used to throw guys out the window regularly……I’m sure that must have hurt. They were a mean bunch.
Yes, the U of I is BIG. 6300 acres. 651 buildings. Most of the BIG are BIG. Wait til you get to MICH stadium. Land is cheap in the midwest. It used to be top 10 or top 5 in quite a few things. Now Accounting and Engineering are still good. Has one of the largest libraries in the world. A huge nuclear program. I’d walk 45 minutes to get to the stadium. Over 35,000 undergrad and a huge grad school, mostly foreign students. The coach inherited a mess (sound familiar) but for the resources he has and realizing Illinois… Read more »
I saw #2 MICH host #1 ND in Ann Arbor in 1989. It was one of the most amazing games I have ever witnessed. I was on the MICH sideline as their guest that day, and the players were as hyped up as any I have ever seen, with blood already smudging their pants and arms during aggressive pre-game drills. I asked a Wolverine coach, “Are you guys always like this?” He replied, “Nope. But this is the Notre Dame game.” (MICH leads the series 25-17-1). “The Rocket” scored two exceptional TDs for Lou Holtz and the Domers with back-to… Read more »
That game … so much anticipation, and the heavy rain somewhat ruined it. Except the Rocket. Also, ever the cheater Granny Holtz snuck in a game the week before though it was always suppose to be he season opener. Bo was furious when it was scheduled during the summer. Granny Holtz, of course, used his famous dumb act to spin it.
Wow what a difference a couple of days make. Facebook has gotten worse than Wolf’s blog on a bad day. Here are few of the things being peddled by so called sports services. 1. Lincoln Riley has been in talks with Las Vegas and a deal is days away. 2. Caleb Williams is considering sitting out the rest of the season and considering concentrating on the draft. 3. Attacks on Caleb’s character have ramped up with the sheep billowing like never before. I wouldn’t be surprised to see more attacks before the weekend. The fact is;USC lost a penalty aided… Read more »
It’s on Facebook, it must be true.
How Notre Dame broke USC John Kennedy (Fighting Irish Wire) — Of all the action that occurred last weekend, Southern Cal losing to Utah’s backup quarterback and a last-second field goal had to be the highlight for Notre Dame fans eating cheeseburgers all weekend. “King” Caleb Caleb Williams has been making dollars that register in the millions since transferring to USC. He has major mainstream endorsement deals with brands as large as Wendy’s and is the “king” of football in LA. This was supposed to be the year for him to fully cement his college legacy. Win a title for the Trojans… Read more »
A lot of truth in there, except USC was broken well before the ND game. At least to these untrained eyes.
Excellent observation vT! So glad you pointed that out. Amazing insight for the “untrained eyes” you and I, and so many others possess. Domer reporter John Kennedy was so happy to see USC flounder badly that he practically wanted to personally take credit for it! Sounds like a weak reporter who just had to try give ND credit for something it didn’t deserve. At least that’s how I felt about his take. Read his entire article if you have time. I didn’t include all the bad stuff. West Coast life, and in particular Hollywood and the beach, is so vastly… Read more »
Kennedy is also breathing a sigh of relief after holding his breath all year hoping that last year’s pounding in the Coli was not the start of another multi-year beat-down series led by LR. So he has respite for another year. He’ll find out soon enough that ND has hit their ceiling while the Trojans are just beginning to rebuild into another juggernaut that will once again make him and all his Midwestern cronies into California dreamers.
Every dog has his day, as they say. ND definitely had theirs against us.
They still have PITT, CLEM (away), WAKE (where they stole their QB from) and STAN (away) to play. Hopefully, they somehow lose a couple of those. I’ll sure be rooting for the Tigers to beat them after suffering a 35-14 beatdown in South Bend last year.
Talk about a heartbreaker season: twice CLEM has already lost in OT this season: 28-20 to MIA, and 31-24 to FSU.
CLEM should have a good shot at dumping the Irish big-time, at least I hope so.
Notre Dame lol … was Tony Rice’s ACT phony
how about Granny Holtz, the definition of phony
Riley has to get humble real fast and hire an asst Head Coach who manages the defense, maybe some of the Mich St guys! I also have to wonder if Kliff Kingsbury has anything to do with the offensive struggles and not running the ball! Don’t start running soon and those guys will be hitting the portal.
I wonder if Kliff Kingsbury regrets coming aboard as a so-called Senior Offensive Analyst.
Since USC’s lagging offense is now also under fire as well as the defense and special teams, it’s not exactly a resume highlight.
Thought for you all- Our basketball team recruits like crazy. I know that our NIL plays a part in bringing in 5 star basketball players. So it’s not a USC issue, it has to be a LR issue. Am I off base?
James and Rodman want their sons to have a great team around them $$$$$$$$.
USC Football: Lincoln Riley Alters Course on Championship Hopes The media keeps receipts! Matt Levine (SI.com) — After another disappointing loss for the USC Trojans, they now find themselves in a strange spot. This team entered the season with championship aspirations and the dream of going undefeated for the season. But in just two short weeks, that all vanished right before their eyes. The Trojans were handed their second straight loss, this time to the Utah Utes at home. It was a frustrating game that saw USC lose at the last second. But the issue isn’t that they lost at… Read more »
The press REALLY hates SC.
Oh, poor, poor USC. Can we get a Kleenex for our desperately underachieving Trojans! Actually, it seemed like the press deeply loved USC for all of its 11-3 Season One bravado, from what I remember. Lincoln Riley was hailed as the long-awaited, smoother-than-silk Trojan savior. We even got off fairly easy despite literally throwing away the Cotton Bowl in an unthinkable fashion. And the press even hung in there with the 2023 6-0 Trojans, all the while explaining (to those who would listen) that big danger loomed ahead. Well, now after two straight horrible losses, that danger finally arrived and… Read more »
The press will be the press. USC always has the power to control the narrative. Just win, baby, playing tough 3-phase football, and the press will fall all over itself fighting to be in the front row of the pressers.
Indeed, win out, and USC will once again be the West Coast darlings of CFB and back into a hotshot bowl game with a top-10 ranking.
Game of the week: Utah 34, USC 32 Jon Wilner (Bay Area News Group) — News of the week: Utah After the victory at USC, coach Kyle Whittingham went public with the worst-kept secret in the conference: Quarterback Cam Rising and tight end Brant Kuithe have been shut down for the rest of the season. They will take medical redshirts, allowing for the possibility that both could play for Utah next season. We won’t begin to guess their intentions, but the circle would come full for Rising, whose career began in the Big 12 (with Texas) and could conclude there.… Read more »
Everyone thinks beating USC is a big deal. Not that team that got out played, coached, and out muscled, at all positions by Utah. Someday it may be a big deal to beat USC, but not right now.
Trojans at a Turning Point Antonio Morales (The Athletic) — In the wake of USC’s loss to UTAH on Saturday night, I couldn’t help but think this team really misses someone like Travis Dye and the leadership he brought. Dye was never one to shy away from pointing out when USC was slipping on the details, playing with some complacency, or not meeting its standard. He knew the process mattered as much as the results. The results were there for the Trojans through their 6-0 start this season, but the process has seemed to be lacking. The season opener against San… Read more »
The talk about firing Riley is totally absurd. Michigan has hung with Harbaugh through thick and thin and look where they are now. Probably the best team in the nation. It took him a few years to build it but now he has the defense and offense to win the NC. USC needs to be patient. I am betting Riley is going to realize his errors, mature, and take the program to the championship level. Can’t do it without jumping all in on recruiting like the others are, with some cash up front. I have been against it but I… Read more »
If grinch is gone the entire defensive staff will go as well. I’d like to keep Nua.
I rarely watch a game when I know the gist of the outcome, but I wasn’t able to see any meaningful part of the game. I was blindsided by a church outing my wife signed us up for before asking what time the game was. I managed to get the game on the Gameday app, piped through my hearing aid, and listened to the first half while cruising the San Diego harbor. The second half was at a restaurant and I deliberately put my back to the TV because yelling, “Throw the F**kin football,” isn’t the way to impress the… Read more »
In addition to a new DC and a Special Teams coach, Riley needs a real OC on the sidelines calling the plays. The HC needs to be free to see the big picture. He can always over rule a play called. Bear hit him helmet to helmet instead of hands first, good call. Instead of Byrd on the outside Grinch sticks a freshman in, 3rd on the depth chart to cover the RB who beats him twice! Fire Grinch already.
Intriguing thought ✌
If LR told any of his staff members they were coaching for their jobs against UTAH (as many advocated), what does he tell them now?
Of course, I highly doubt LR put any extra pressure whatsoever on his unsatisfactory staff before the tough UTAH loss, but that’s exactly what some think is part of the problem inside USC football right now.
And now USC has to already worry about assistants who may already be angling for their next jobs, which is just a fact of life amidst CFB’s constantly revolving doors.
from what we are seeing … please find another job
Let’s get that Trojan Ryan Nielsen (1997-2001) he is doing a great job as DC with the Atlanta Falcons. Throw him some major $$$ and say you are HC in waiting when LR retires early or wants summers off.
Unless one of your staff is being formally reprimanded, don’t threaten firing them till it is time to do it. They should have an idea their performance is subpar though.
Well, whatever LR’s doing now, and has been ever since the Cotton Bowl fiasco, isn’t working. All the Kool-Aid he pumped out turned out to be empty goulash, so now the media is outwardly laughing at him. He makes way, way too much money to perform in the mediocre way he has been. So backlash is gonna happen. My point was really about accountability, not threatening to fire people, since firing anyone mid-season isn’t even a realistic or desirable option here, especially for USC after almost 20 years of relentless turmoil. Now LR’s stuck with a hole-filled program, uneven talent,… Read more »
Allen, firing the Cat midseason was a highly desirable option. Remember we celebrate that day every year now.
The Cat and his feeble operation have absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Lincoln Riley’s complicated task at USC now and the two situations aren’t even remotely comparable.
Great idea, Steveg, let there be an annual TDB Holiday commemorating that glorious day!!!
You are spot on Allen, as always.
I’m rarely spot on actually, as you well know.
And with this mid-season 2023 USC team, figuring out heavily disappointing USC football is more challenging than Rubik’s Cubing blindfolded…
I wouldn’t be surprised if LR and Caleb went as a package next year to an NFL team like the Chicago Bears. Chicago is a big market with a loyal fan base. I’m not familiar with the ownership, but it has to be frustrating to see the team struggle with its current Head Coach and Quarterback. It will be interesting to see how things unfold after the season is over.
One Can Hope USC Gets Its Act Together
USC announced a KO time for 4:30 p.m. PT for its highly anticipated matchup with No. 5 Washington on Nov. 4 in the Coliseum (ABC). The game has lost some juice with the Trojans essentially out of the College Football Playoff hunt thanks to a two-game losing streak, but it still represents a massive game with conference implications.
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The Washington – Utah – Oregon – USC round robin has begun. Huskies and Utes are 1-0, Ducks and Trojans 0-1. How will it end? Oh and Cougs, Beavs and Buffs just waiting to trip someone up. Beavs already tripped up Utah.
Imagine the homer calls (for Washington) lol coming
Well I have digested the results of the Saturday loss. What is gone, National Championship, a CFP berth, likely Conference Championship and a spot in the CCG. What do I have to look forward to, beating the Bruins and Bears, spoiling the Huskies and Ducks seasons (not likely but possible), going to a decent bowl (hopefully not lay an egg). We got sucked into the media and coaches hype. It got SC relevant again and sold tickets/TV viewers. These calls to fire LR are simply ridiculous. LR is 40. Kyle Wittingham was playing for the Rams before LR was looking… Read more »
The problem for Lincoln, whom I am still 100% behind, is that he started to dig his own grave once he immediately took the USC job and started talking about championships at USC — which I think he said could and would be achieved fairly quickly. I also seem to remember some of his comments about turning USC and the Coliseum into the “mecca” of college football, though I could be wrong or delusional there. It’s all coachspeak of course. But in view of how USC has looked lately and the already declining Coliseum attendance, LR faces bigger challenges now,… Read more »
The two things I’m looking for are changes in his staff and signing 5* 300 lbs high schoolers.
Let’s see if Lincoln Riley can do it? He’s got a lot to prove after USC’s recent trend of dismal performances.
He looks like he’s an absolute screaming nervous wreck on the sidelines with all of his fits against the refs. Yet LR seems calm and relaxed during his increasingly Helton-like pressers.
Hopefully, LR gets his act together, and comes up with some better solutions than denying the obvious look of USC, and hiding players from the press, post-game. Sorry, that doesn’t work in L.A. Lincoln.
He should scream at those ahole Pac refs
Maybe LR should spend more time doing things that actually help USC football. Constantly screaming at the refs doesn’t work.
He isn’t Boob Knight … just screaming to scream. Actually like how he isn’t taking any shit from these hacks.
Fire Grinch and this will solve 3/4 of the problems.
Bob Knight won three NCs, the first when he was only 36 years old.
Maybe Lincoln should call him up to ask how it’s done.
The Knight scream style wouldn’t work today … didn’t work for him 20 years ago. LR is better off calling Pete.
That was my point. LR’s lengthy screaming episodes vs the refs where he’s running all over the field like a maniac don’t work. I didn’t see McKay, Robinson, or Carroll do that even once in my lifetime. It’s now an every-week thing with LR. LR needs to focus on what’s important, and right now, there are questions as to whether he even knows what that is. Maybe LR should call Kiffin or Sark, neither of whom has been wildly blown out this season, lost on the last play of the game, cluelessly tried to kick a reporter off campus, or… Read more »
Just see who Utah is recruiting on D and Oline and sign them …. those guys are huge
Caleb Williams’ second Heisman hopes continue to drop per The Athletic. Even Jaxson Dart is given a better shot than Caleb is now. Finalists (if the season ended today) Jayden Daniels, LSU: 2,573 yards (223 attempts), 30 TDs, 3 INTs, 73.1 percent completions, 521 rushing yards J.J. McCarthy, Michigan: 1,799 yards (169 attempts), 21 TDs, 3 INTs, 78.1 percent completions, 3 rushing TDs Still in the debate Michael Penix Jr., Washington: 2,576 yards (257 attempts), 20 TDs, 5 INTs, 70.8 percent completions Bo Nix, Oregon: 2,089 yards (232 attempts), 21 TDs, 1 INT, 78.4 percent completions Dillon Gabriel, Oklahoma: 2,131 yards (233 attempts), 24 TDs,… Read more »
I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around people calling for Riley to be fired.
Riley is doing a great job and it takes time to build a championship team.
I think these people don’t remember how bad were in the Helton years.
The torturous Helton years will never be forgotten, and Riley should never be compared to that clown. But I sure wouldn’t say that USC or LR is doing “great” in any way these days. Frankly, LR’s team has looked like crap for five straight weeks and is lucky to even be ranked at the very edge of the Top 25 now. We’re basically there, just ahead of James Madison, because of our “brand”. I still have hope that Riley will loosen the reigns on his stubbornness, and bring on some better assistants while making some other badly needed adjustments (such… Read more »
This new wave of coaches are lost in the lifestyle and the big money.
If it doesn’t work out, oh well,Jimmy Sexton or these other con agent will bribe some dipshit AD for another gig.
Like most big money businesses, coaching is just a big con job.
I sure like how Detroit Lions (5-2) coach Dan Campbell addressed yesterday’s blistering 38-6 loss to the Ravens and the fantastic Lamar Jackson. How refreshing to hear a coach tell it like it is.