Why Miller Moss thanked his USC senior-thesis advisor in transfer announcement
Moss once wrote a lengthy, year-long thesis at USC on the concept of athletic amateurism – when he had no need to even take the course to graduate
Luca Evans (OC Register) — LOS ANGELES — Two years ago, USC professor Nathan Perl-Rosenthal received an application for his HIST 493 Law, History and Culture thesis course that he found rather interesting: an exploration of the NCAA’s concept of athletic “amateurism” and its modern evolution.
The submission came from Miller Moss.
Perl-Rosenthal, a Harvard graduate and lifelong academic, had seen perhaps two football games in his adult life. He had no idea whoMiller Mosswas. He knew, simply, that Moss was a Law, History and Culture major and had a strong enough GPA, despite applying as a junior for an honors class generally reserved for seniors. So he admitted Moss as part of a five-person class, the young man the youngest member of the group, en route to his graduating in exactly two years from USC.
It wasn’t until Perl-Rosenthal met him that he learned Moss was a quarterback at USC. He never really learned much else about that, too. But Perl-Rosenthal knew one thing: the Law, History and Culture major did not require taking this honors class, and writing a roughly 60-to-100-page thesis over the course of a year, to graduate. There was “absolutely no reason,” as the professor put it, Moss had to apply.
“It was unusual,” Perl-Rosenthal reflected Monday, asked about his history teaching football players. “That was unusual. Quite unusual, actually.”
Moss enrolled, as Perl-Rosenthal came to learn during the year-long course, because he wanted the intellectual challenge. It was the same reason, ultimately, that Moss came to stay at USC for four years in carving out a path that has become near-unheard of in modern college sports, a former top recruit who sat patiently as a backup for three seasons before getting a shot at a starting job. Valuing a USC degree, as Moss himself said back in the summer, was a large reason he had stuck around.
After an up-and-down season when he lost that starting job, Moss officially transferred from USC on Monday – living, in real time, the changing definition of amateurism he had once explored in his thesis in HIST 493. In a wholly unique decision announcement for a wholly unique USC quarterback, though, Moss gave a specific “special thank you” on social media to Perl-Rosenthal, writing the professor’s guidance “steered me intellectually in ways that I had not been before.”
Perl-Rosenthal had talked with Moss only intermittently since the course finished, about a year and a half ago. He found out about the acknowledgement, in complete surprise, through a request for an interview from the Southern California News Group.
“I do sort of think – football has been his life,” Perl-Rosenthal said, reflecting on Moss’ message of thanks. “But he also wanted to get a good education. And not just, like, check a bunch of boxes and say, ‘I got a good education,’ but actually really challenge himself. Like, that was what was so clear to me.”
It was the final flourish to a path at USC, in a changing era of college athletics, that stands apart from a wide range of Moss’ peers. He grew up, similar to them, on a carousel of private QB coaches; he also grew up competing in chess tournaments, and playing piano, and drawing lists of numbers on pieces of paper. His thesis, focused on that legal definition of amateurism, was in many ways a direct self-reflection of his life as a student-athlete.
“The question of, like, what is a student? What is athletic amateurism in college sports, and is it really – does it really exist, or are we just pretending, right?” Perl-Rosenthal reflected. “That’s kind of the question he was asking.”
They read legal texts like novels, in Perl-Rosenthal’s class. They wrote sections of their thesis, and presented it, and re-wrote it, again and again and again. Moss, Perl-Rosenthal reflected, was “quite a good writer,” and delved back to the very 20th-century origins of NCAA amateurism.
And for a year, Moss frequently stepped inside the context of a historian and outside the context of a football player. The latter, ultimately, is the identity he will be remembered for.
But Moss ultimately stayed as long as he did, at USC, for the concept of the student-athlete he once spent a year exploring with Perl-Rosenthal.
“I think he has a bright future,” Perl-Rosenthal reflected, “regardless of what he decides to do.”
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To get open and get separation you need what we used to call(when I was coaching) speed off of a cut. You plant you foot to make your cut and then you explode and create a gap between you and the D-Back. Marquise Lee had it and so did Robert Woods. George Farmer didn’t. He had straight sprinters speed which allowed him to run by the defenders on deep routes in college but on short routes he used his bigger body to muscle in the catch. When he got to the pros and had to go up against those speed… Read more »
For all the talk about SC’s great receivers, they do have some receivers who can climb the ladder and get the allie oops and even a few that can catch the ball in a crowd. That’s puts a lot of pressure for the QB to put the ball on a dime. But aside from Makai Lemon and maybe Kyle Ford, they don’t have a whole lot of guys that get separation and actually get open.
They say LR has a photographic mind. That may be but he is also a slow learner. It took him forever to learn that you can’t win without defense. When he finally came to that conclusion he did make some good adjustments which also says something good about him. But he’s made a lot of mistakes.Alex Grench was a huge mistake. He had what I think could have been the next great RB in USC history(Quinton Joiner) and he only ran him 81 times in 2 years. That’s just a little over 40 times a year(just over 3 carries a… Read more »
USC doesn’t recruit like it used to. Remember when USC could “recruit itself” back before the ncaa attacked. I think a lot of the reason is these guys were babies during the PC era. They have grown up looking at USC being mediocre, and at times looking pretty bad. They have all watched tOHS, Bama, Clemson, Georgia, and Oregon grab the headlines, ratings, and trophies. What has USC done during their lifetime to really impress. Darnold won a Rose Bowl. One coach got fired getting off the bus, another because of substance abuse, another was kept way to long. USC… Read more »
Everybody knows I’am not a fan of LR…….and I think his recruiting skills are deficient. but……I’am not disappointed with this class or last year’s class. We lost out on a lot of 5 star talent that I believe in this era of big bucks was never coming to USC. Let’s face it, we just went 6-6 and our coach is being crapped on everywhere. That affects recruits in spite of cash. We have the natural USC advantages but they are being masked by Riley. Even the timing of Entz leaving and the purported new job on NSD is very questionable,… Read more »
Websites are indicating signing Jawkeen Stewart saved LR’s skin alone especially since some 10 5-star athletes flipped elsewhere to sign elsewhere. LR’s margin for error comes narrower each season.
So Jahkeem Stewart may have just saved Lincoln Riley’s USC career, huh?
What a crazy USC day. Could have been worse, but could have been a lot better too.
This crucially disappointing announcement before 9 am on LOI Day of all-important Matt Entz splitting for FRESNO ST seems like it was timed to do as much damage as possible. Not sure what to make of that.
No doubt Riley sold Entz a crock of crap to entice him here and Entz figured out that nothing Riley promised him would come to fruition as long as Riley was leading our moribund program.
I think we saw a turn around at linebacker with Entz as coach. Even Cobb played better, and Gentry was totally reenergized as a linebacker and as a football player, according to him. He did what he was hired to do, and part of that was to get exposure to the upper divisions of football. He did that and got a job offer. Great job. No matter what Riley fed him, Entz accomplished what he set out to do, although I wish he would have taken a couple more years to do it.
Allen, got to disagree with you on this. If a Coach is leaving, I believe this should be announced asap to be fair to any recruit considering signing with a school. I applaud the school’s transparency on this matter.
I agree with you trojandn, and wish the announcement had come earlier if possible.
I’ve just read some things around the web that cast a different light on USC’s inter-staff relationships. I’m not repeating it here because I’m not sure I believe any of it.
Rivals labels USC as a “Loser” on LOI Day Adam Gorney (National Recruiting Director) — Losing four-star linebacker Madden Faraimo to Notre Dame after all the buzz was on the Trojans definitely hurt big especially since he’s from down the road. But early in the day linebackers coach Matt Entz took the Fresno State job (which could have influenced Faraimo) and then midday coach Lincoln Riley had to deny any interest in the UCF job, a storyline that was called “absurd” by one source. The major bright spot was landing five-star DL Jahkeem Stewart, who should only grow in position coach Eric Henderson’s defensive line room. But so many gut-wrenching decommits (many from the… Read more »
Hard to disagree with. USC is on its way to becoming a “Have Not”. LR is on his way to be considered “not a winner”, if he isn’t already there. This signing day, along with the past 30 days or so for decommitments, is extremely disappointing.
Since LR has called this “home”, he’d better get out in his “home’s” backyard and build a Jerico Wall around it because it has been seriously invaded!
It’s worth noting that the school that inquired about LIncoln Riley is UCF, an itinerant marginal conference school now in the reorganized Big 12, Riley’s old stomping grounds. UCF is also interested in unemployed Nebraska reject Scott Frost. Frost went 19-7 at UCF in ’16-17 before he took the Husker job where he went 16-31 over four-plus years. Riley’s rep and stature have significantly dropped.
I think anyone thinking UCF had a shot at LR is delusional. That being said, if I’m UCF, there’s no reason not to enquire any and every where. Hey, who knows, they might get a bite with Frost or some other kinda big name. But there’s no way LR’s ego would ever allow him to go to UCF from USC. That’s basically admitting himself to be a failure and that the job was too big for him. And what would be the point, to build a winner so he could land at a blue blood school, like, oh, I don’t… Read more »
The mere fact that UCF would approach LR is an insult to him. It’s also a way to gauge how USC feels about things. They’re thinking maybe there’s a chance he just doesn’t like the situation he’s created for himself at USC despite all the money. Like all the massive pressure that’s mounting every week. Then they would leave it up to LR to get USC to pay him off for each party’s freedom at terms favorable to the school. I’m sure he didn’t like having to deal with it publicly. It’ll be interesting to see who finally takes the… Read more »
I don’t expect USC to react with any kind of salary extension or increase for LR. That would draw even more ire on the admin.
It is interesting though that a school of such a location and status as UCF would reach out. We here are so close to things that we may be at risk of overreacting from time to time, but this confirms that LR’s troubles are indeed known and discussed far and wide and at all levels of cfb.
All true. In today’s instant headline sporting world, it’s all entertainment. And Riley has too often left a big positive news vacuum — which ends up being filled with all the stuff he doesn’t want. All in all, it becomes a bad Christmas stocking. This entire UCF/Lincoln Riley thing is frankly bizarre. Someone else called it “absurd” which I found astoundingly accurate. But where there’s smoke there’s fire. And the fire here is that the CFB world knows Lincoln Riley’s unpopular in L.A. to an increasing degree and he’s gonna have to do a lot better to get USC on… Read more »
How big is Notre Dame landing Madden Faraimo? Pete Sampson (The Athletic) — Notre Dame signed four-star linebacker Madden Faraimo on Wednesday, beating out perceived favorite USC and former finalist Texas. Marcus Freeman broke his own news, casually mentioning the addition to open his news conference. This was the kind of recruitment Notre Dame needed to win, for a linebacking corps that’s developed into one of the nation’s best and to fortify the notion that recruiting has taken steps forward. Faraimo is a top-100 prospect from Oceanside, Calif., roughly halfway between Los Angeles and San Diego. There was no organic connection… Read more »
National Signing Day 2024: Seven Teams Who Won Big Andrew Ivins — As the Director of Scouting for 247Sports, I track the ebbs and flows of a class and a cycle year-round. Below are teams I categorize as winners, with team rankings accurate as of 5 p.m. ET. — OREGON DUCKS Highlight of the day: Flipping 5-star CB Na’eem Offord from Ohio State Coffee is for closers. No, cigars are for closers. Ever since Dan Lanning took over at Oregon the customary post-Signing Day tradition for him has been to light up a stogie in celebration. That won’t change Wednesday night. — TEXAS LONGHORNS… Read more »
Lincoln Riley Shuts Down USC Exit Rumors amid UCF Buzz: ‘I’m Home’ with Trojans Andrew Peters (b/r) — Amid rumors about his potential departure for another team, USC HC Lincoln Riley shut down the possibility of him leaving the Trojans. “I tell them I’m a USC Trojan,” Riley said when asked about the potential of other schools being interested in him, per ESPN’s Paolo Uggetti. “I’m at the place I want to be.” Uggetti confirmed that UCF, which is searching for its next HC following Gus Malzahn’s departure to be Florida State’s offensive coordinator, did reach out to Riley. He called the… Read more »
I wasn’t able to catch LR’s press conference today, if anyone would be so kind as to post a summary of the highlights and your take on it, I’d appreciate it. (Too bad I can’t ask chapGPT to summarize it.)
Matt Entz is a big loss for USC, both on the field and as a recruiter Ryan Kartje (LA Times) — Coach Matt Entz’s departure is a significant blow to a USC linebacking corps that improved by leaps and bounds under Entz’s tutelage. His impact on 6-foot-6 LB Eric Gentry was especially noteworthy, as Gentry was in the midst of a breakout season before a series of concussions forced him to redshirt. “That’s my guy,” Gentry said in the spring, before he led USC in TFL in just seven games this season. “Coach Entz is amazing.” When the news was made official Wednesday,… Read more »
Morris and Anes were late flips, with Anes changing his commitment from Wisconsin to Tennessee on Oct. 31 and Morris decommitting from USC to join the Vols on Nov. 25.
“Daune especially, I stayed on him,” MacIntyre said. “I kept telling him the best in the state stay in-state. There’s no reason to go to California when the team in state’s better.”
Report: USC’s Lincoln Riley Targeted by UCF as HC Replacement for Gus Malzahn
Joseph Zucker (B/R) — The Athletic’sBruce Feldman, Antonio Morales and Ralph Russo reported Wednesday the Knights have “inquired about the availability of USC coach Lincoln Riley.”
“Representatives from UCF reached out to Riley’s representatives last weekend to inquire about his interest in making a move across the country, one source said,” the report said. “Any discussions about adjusting the terms of Riley’s contract would be between him and USC, sources said.” b/r
If this is legit……. Could we see a certain current USC classroom teacher in the wings as a possible immediate solution? Excuse me right now but I am about to get on my knees and say a prayer or two.
I can’t imagine this happening with Jahkeem Stewart probably receiving a guarantee from USC that he wasn’t headed across the country to a program undergoing a head coaching change. JMHO.
What happens when other schools start wanting to poach your head coach? Their school gives them a nice raise and contract extension. Hang on, this could get exciting!
Without Entz, Riley never had a chance with Faraimo. LR probably just shook his head and signed up another WR. We will know by the end of the day how many top California defensive side players have bolted their State to play for other HCs they respect.
Thanks for the recruiting updates Allen. Much appreciated. Hope we land that JS kid Faraimo in SJC? He’s an old school stud! Here’s also hoping we hang on to the other commits as well? The central need at present is USC “needs the beef” on both sides of the line. This last season we’ve had some well meaning comments about PC or Urban Meyer assuming a “general manager” type position over LR. As you well know, these recommendations flirt with “tortious interference with a contract”. Possibly you can cite that black letter rule of law and explain why handing LR… Read more »
I think it’s obvious LR will never be a PC or a Meyer, or even a Sarkisian in recruiting. I could see him recruiting a lineman in a Midwest or southern home and getting laughed at in what he says about the importance of controlling the LOS. Yes PC loved recruiting RBs. But he never did at the expense of linemen. I think LR subconsciously thinks he is still in the Big 12. He will never bring in a Coach O type who would demand who he recruits. LR lives in a fantasy World thinking Air Raid is the answer… Read more »
I’ve tried to tell the TDB for over a year now that LR has never been regarded as a strong recruiter. Losing local LB Madden Faraimo to ND today is just another example of his well-established mediocrity in this important area. “They want me at stack linebacker, with a chance to come off the edge, too,” Faraimo told 247Sports about Notre Dame. “It is very similar to what I did in high school, and they do want me and Kingston Viliamu-Asa on the field together. It’s great to see what they do at linebacker, but I know it’s going to be up… Read more »
Looking at your listing of USC signees, Allen, I am seeing a bunch of 3-star athletes. Looking at the past 3-years versus what Helton was signing, is there really that much difference (except Helton did sign California players)? LR has to be the most underachiever in recruiting of the two major conferences. And it appears it’s business as usual in outside programs coming into California and taking their pick of the spoils.
Maybe I was just listening to a bunch of sunshine pumpers but listening to these pundants gave me the impression that we were in the hunt for about 7 players. All we got was 2. I would think that if SC wants to play with the OSU’s, Oregons, Alabamas and Georgias, they are going to have to recruit like them. I just don’t think Auburn and Florida should be ahead of us in recruiting. Let’s see how LR does in the transfer portal. He didn’t do very well last year.
USC LB coach Matt Entz accepts head coaching position at Fresno State Chris Trevino (USCFootball.com) — USC linebackers coach Matt Entz has accepted the head coaching job at Fresno State. Entz joined Lincoln Riley’s staff after a successful stint as the HC of North Dakota State, winning two national titles at the FCS level. Entz was always upfront about his stop at USC being an opportunity for him to gain experience to become a HC at the FBS level. “I have head coaching experience, but to be transparent, I’ve had some people tell me that I don’t have FBS recruiting experience and… Read more »
Entz obviously learned what little that was available from Linkin’ Riley in less than a year and moved on.
Entz figured out more of what NOT to do, than what to do for Division 1-A football coaching. He no doubt feared that if he hung around any longer, the stink of Riley would be all over him😎.
Erik McKinney (WeAreSC) — Here are the twenty 2025 USC commitments as National Signing Day opens 5-star QB Husan Longstreet (CA) – No. 20 overall On3 Ranking signed 4-star LB Matai Tagoa’i (CA) – No. 98 overall signed 4-star OT Alex Payne (GA) – No. 162 overall signed 4-star OT Aaron Dunn (UT) – No. 184 overall. signed 4-star CB Trestin Castro (CA) – No. 198 overall signed 4-star S Kendarius Reddick (GA) – No. 263 overall signed 4-star WR Romero Ison (MD) – No. 357 overall signed 4-star WR Corey Simms (MO) – No. 258 overall signed 4-star WR Tanook Hines (TX) – No. 370 overall signed 4-star RB Harry Dalton (VA) – No. 377 overall signed 4-star… Read more »
I presume the loss of well-regarded Trojan LB coach Matt Entz to FRESNO ST today won’t help with Faraimo (below). ND worries me here, especially as they just beat us in the Coliseum and have been a damaging thorn in USC’s side in the past with local big-time LBs.
Most people in the recruiting biz seem to give USC the nod for Stewart, but I don’t have any inside info on him. Since he’s from Baton Rouge, LSU figures to be a problem for us here and Brian Kelly is under enormous pressure to sign him.
USC recruiting primer: 5 thoughts on the Trojans’ 2025 class on early signing day eve Antonio Morales (The Athletic) — The Trojans need to put an underwhelming 6-6 regular season in the rearview mirror. The most obvious way to fix the issues is through talent acquisition. 1. Forgive me if this sounds like a broken record: The Trojans’ 2025 class, as currently constructed, is fine. It ranks 16th nationally. Will “fine” win you the Big Ten when OHIO ST, MICH and ORE all have top-10 classes? No. It won’t close the talent gap between USC and those programs either. 2. But so far,… Read more »
Miller Moss made the perfect scapegoat for a flawed offensive coach. I have seen moronic vitriol being posted everywhere about Miller when all he did is obey orders. After the LSU game people were wearing “Miller Time “ buttons, but a few games later we were hearing it was poor execution that caused late collapses and a finger was pointed at the who threw the ball, as opposed to the guy who dropped the ball. This quarterback problem was brought on by the coach not the player. Moss deserves our thanks for having in there as long as he did.… Read more »
I think Miller Moss will play wherever he goes. He seems like the type of a guy who would do his homework to find the right school where he will not be a backup as opposed to going to a school just because the campus is pretty.
Michigan OC Kirk Campbell Fired from Sherrone Moore’s Coaching Staff Amid 7-5 Season Andrew Peters (B/R) — Following the conclusion of Michigan’s disappointing 7-5 season, the program fired offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Kirk Campbell, the school announced on Tuesday.
Michigan named tight ends coach Steve Casula as the interim offensive coordinator for the bowl game.
After its national championship a season ago, Michigan ranked 128th out of 134 FBS teams in yds per game, 122nd in yds per play and 111th in points per game.
This was Lincoln Riley’s famous dumb shovel pass game… Column: USC’s loss to Michigan a reminder that Lincoln Riley falters under pressure Dylan Hernandez (LAT) — Lincoln Riley made some curious play calls, the most noteworthy of them on the possession that preceded Michigan’s winning drive. The Trojans went three-and-out, twice stopping the clock on incomplete shovel passes attempted by QB Miller Moss. The possession burned less than a minute, leaving enough time for the Wolverines to move back in front on Khalel Mullings’ one-yard run with 37 seconds remaining in the game. The Wolverines were more physical on both… Read more »
If Moss truly embodied the Trojan spirit, he would have stayed to “Fight On” and compete for the starting position next year. This transfer portal stuff has gotten way out of hand. It now appears that it’s more advantageous to be a quitter than a fighter. SMH.
Maybe Miller Moss didn’t want to play for Lincoln Riley any longer.
No reason for a player to use his last season of eligibility up like that, especially if he’s a QB.
MM did plenty of fighting for USC. His days of starting for USC were over. Riley’s offense isn’t designed for his type of talent. He made the smart move and now leaves USC with a great degree, good experience, and at least a shot at playing more somewhere else.
I read where MM is considering Michigan. I read yesterday that Quinn Ewers of Texas is looking at Michigan. If both end up there, Moss will be a backup. He might consider Boise State who has definitely moved into the limelight with its great running back.
Report: USC QB Miller Moss Eyes Michigan, Auburn, More as Transfer Landing Spots Doric Sam (B/R) — After announcing his plans to transfer from USC on Monday, QB Miller Moss has reportedly identified a few potential destinations.
According to Pete Nakos of On3.com, Moss “is expected to look at Michigan, Auburn, Iowa and Louisville” when he officially enters the transfer portal.
Thirteen Trojans Earn All-Big Ten Conference Honors usctrojans.com — P Eddie Czaplicki not only earned First Team honors by the coaches and the media, but he was named the Eddleman-Fields Punter of the Year.
RB Woody Marks and OL Emmanuel Pregnon both were selected to the Second Team.
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To get open and get separation you need what we used to call(when I was coaching) speed off of a cut. You plant you foot to make your cut and then you explode and create a gap between you and the D-Back. Marquise Lee had it and so did Robert Woods. George Farmer didn’t. He had straight sprinters speed which allowed him to run by the defenders on deep routes in college but on short routes he used his bigger body to muscle in the catch. When he got to the pros and had to go up against those speed… Read more »
For all the talk about SC’s great receivers, they do have some receivers who can climb the ladder and get the allie oops and even a few that can catch the ball in a crowd. That’s puts a lot of pressure for the QB to put the ball on a dime. But aside from Makai Lemon and maybe Kyle Ford, they don’t have a whole lot of guys that get separation and actually get open.
They say LR has a photographic mind. That may be but he is also a slow learner. It took him forever to learn that you can’t win without defense. When he finally came to that conclusion he did make some good adjustments which also says something good about him. But he’s made a lot of mistakes.Alex Grench was a huge mistake. He had what I think could have been the next great RB in USC history(Quinton Joiner) and he only ran him 81 times in 2 years. That’s just a little over 40 times a year(just over 3 carries a… Read more »
USC doesn’t recruit like it used to. Remember when USC could “recruit itself” back before the ncaa attacked. I think a lot of the reason is these guys were babies during the PC era. They have grown up looking at USC being mediocre, and at times looking pretty bad. They have all watched tOHS, Bama, Clemson, Georgia, and Oregon grab the headlines, ratings, and trophies. What has USC done during their lifetime to really impress. Darnold won a Rose Bowl. One coach got fired getting off the bus, another because of substance abuse, another was kept way to long. USC… Read more »
Apparently USC coaches don’t recruit like they used to either.
I’d love to see LR be as offensive minded in recruiting as he is in play calling.
Frankly, I agree with just about everything you posted.
Everybody knows I’am not a fan of LR…….and I think his recruiting skills are deficient. but……I’am not disappointed with this class or last year’s class. We lost out on a lot of 5 star talent that I believe in this era of big bucks was never coming to USC. Let’s face it, we just went 6-6 and our coach is being crapped on everywhere. That affects recruits in spite of cash. We have the natural USC advantages but they are being masked by Riley. Even the timing of Entz leaving and the purported new job on NSD is very questionable,… Read more »
Portal here we come. Let’s plug some holes and build some depth. Maybe even steal a star or two.
And now we need another great LB coach!
Oh, and let’s get as many strong players into our bowl as possible so we can win it and ride a marginally winning season into spring ball. ✌
Yep!……love him or hate him…..he is the coach and we are Trojans.
Websites are indicating signing Jawkeen Stewart saved LR’s skin alone especially since some 10 5-star athletes flipped elsewhere to sign elsewhere. LR’s margin for error comes narrower each season.
So Jahkeem Stewart may have just saved Lincoln Riley’s USC career, huh?
What a crazy USC day. Could have been worse, but could have been a lot better too.
This crucially disappointing announcement before 9 am on LOI Day of all-important Matt Entz splitting for FRESNO ST seems like it was timed to do as much damage as possible. Not sure what to make of that.
No doubt Riley sold Entz a crock of crap to entice him here and Entz figured out that nothing Riley promised him would come to fruition as long as Riley was leading our moribund program.
I think we saw a turn around at linebacker with Entz as coach. Even Cobb played better, and Gentry was totally reenergized as a linebacker and as a football player, according to him. He did what he was hired to do, and part of that was to get exposure to the upper divisions of football. He did that and got a job offer. Great job. No matter what Riley fed him, Entz accomplished what he set out to do, although I wish he would have taken a couple more years to do it.
Allen, got to disagree with you on this. If a Coach is leaving, I believe this should be announced asap to be fair to any recruit considering signing with a school. I applaud the school’s transparency on this matter.
I agree with you trojandn, and wish the announcement had come earlier if possible.
I’ve just read some things around the web that cast a different light on USC’s inter-staff relationships. I’m not repeating it here because I’m not sure I believe any of it.
Rivals labels USC as a “Loser” on LOI Day Adam Gorney (National Recruiting Director) — Losing four-star linebacker Madden Faraimo to Notre Dame after all the buzz was on the Trojans definitely hurt big especially since he’s from down the road. But early in the day linebackers coach Matt Entz took the Fresno State job (which could have influenced Faraimo) and then midday coach Lincoln Riley had to deny any interest in the UCF job, a storyline that was called “absurd” by one source. The major bright spot was landing five-star DL Jahkeem Stewart, who should only grow in position coach Eric Henderson’s defensive line room. But so many gut-wrenching decommits (many from the… Read more »
Hard to disagree with. USC is on its way to becoming a “Have Not”. LR is on his way to be considered “not a winner”, if he isn’t already there. This signing day, along with the past 30 days or so for decommitments, is extremely disappointing.
Since LR has called this “home”, he’d better get out in his “home’s” backyard and build a Jerico Wall around it because it has been seriously invaded!
It’s worth noting that the school that inquired about LIncoln Riley is UCF, an itinerant marginal conference school now in the reorganized Big 12, Riley’s old stomping grounds. UCF is also interested in unemployed Nebraska reject Scott Frost. Frost went 19-7 at UCF in ’16-17 before he took the Husker job where he went 16-31 over four-plus years. Riley’s rep and stature have significantly dropped.
I think anyone thinking UCF had a shot at LR is delusional. That being said, if I’m UCF, there’s no reason not to enquire any and every where. Hey, who knows, they might get a bite with Frost or some other kinda big name. But there’s no way LR’s ego would ever allow him to go to UCF from USC. That’s basically admitting himself to be a failure and that the job was too big for him. And what would be the point, to build a winner so he could land at a blue blood school, like, oh, I don’t… Read more »
The mere fact that UCF would approach LR is an insult to him. It’s also a way to gauge how USC feels about things. They’re thinking maybe there’s a chance he just doesn’t like the situation he’s created for himself at USC despite all the money. Like all the massive pressure that’s mounting every week. Then they would leave it up to LR to get USC to pay him off for each party’s freedom at terms favorable to the school. I’m sure he didn’t like having to deal with it publicly. It’ll be interesting to see who finally takes the… Read more »
I don’t expect USC to react with any kind of salary extension or increase for LR. That would draw even more ire on the admin.
It is interesting though that a school of such a location and status as UCF would reach out. We here are so close to things that we may be at risk of overreacting from time to time, but this confirms that LR’s troubles are indeed known and discussed far and wide and at all levels of cfb.
All true. In today’s instant headline sporting world, it’s all entertainment. And Riley has too often left a big positive news vacuum — which ends up being filled with all the stuff he doesn’t want. All in all, it becomes a bad Christmas stocking. This entire UCF/Lincoln Riley thing is frankly bizarre. Someone else called it “absurd” which I found astoundingly accurate. But where there’s smoke there’s fire. And the fire here is that the CFB world knows Lincoln Riley’s unpopular in L.A. to an increasing degree and he’s gonna have to do a lot better to get USC on… Read more »
“Bad Christmas stocking” = quotable vignette of the day! 😂
How big is Notre Dame landing Madden Faraimo? Pete Sampson (The Athletic) — Notre Dame signed four-star linebacker Madden Faraimo on Wednesday, beating out perceived favorite USC and former finalist Texas. Marcus Freeman broke his own news, casually mentioning the addition to open his news conference. This was the kind of recruitment Notre Dame needed to win, for a linebacking corps that’s developed into one of the nation’s best and to fortify the notion that recruiting has taken steps forward. Faraimo is a top-100 prospect from Oceanside, Calif., roughly halfway between Los Angeles and San Diego. There was no organic connection… Read more »
I don’t think God had anything to do with it. In this crazy world, God has more to think about than college football recruiting
Unless his god is $$.
National Signing Day 2024: Seven Teams Who Won Big Andrew Ivins — As the Director of Scouting for 247Sports, I track the ebbs and flows of a class and a cycle year-round. Below are teams I categorize as winners, with team rankings accurate as of 5 p.m. ET. — OREGON DUCKS Highlight of the day: Flipping 5-star CB Na’eem Offord from Ohio State Coffee is for closers. No, cigars are for closers. Ever since Dan Lanning took over at Oregon the customary post-Signing Day tradition for him has been to light up a stogie in celebration. That won’t change Wednesday night. — TEXAS LONGHORNS… Read more »
Who would be your picks for signing day teams who were the big losers?
With Entz gone I would love to see Chris Claiborne come back to USC.
Lincoln Riley Shuts Down USC Exit Rumors amid UCF Buzz: ‘I’m Home’ with Trojans Andrew Peters (b/r) — Amid rumors about his potential departure for another team, USC HC Lincoln Riley shut down the possibility of him leaving the Trojans. “I tell them I’m a USC Trojan,” Riley said when asked about the potential of other schools being interested in him, per ESPN’s Paolo Uggetti. “I’m at the place I want to be.” Uggetti confirmed that UCF, which is searching for its next HC following Gus Malzahn’s departure to be Florida State’s offensive coordinator, did reach out to Riley. He called the… Read more »
Please reconsider, Coach Jakalope!
I wasn’t able to catch LR’s press conference today, if anyone would be so kind as to post a summary of the highlights and your take on it, I’d appreciate it. (Too bad I can’t ask chapGPT to summarize it.)
It never came on the website. Something about “technical difficulties.” Not a good look.
Appropriately fitting, unfortunately. Kind of how the season went.
Matt Entz is a big loss for USC, both on the field and as a recruiter Ryan Kartje (LA Times) — Coach Matt Entz’s departure is a significant blow to a USC linebacking corps that improved by leaps and bounds under Entz’s tutelage. His impact on 6-foot-6 LB Eric Gentry was especially noteworthy, as Gentry was in the midst of a breakout season before a series of concussions forced him to redshirt. “That’s my guy,” Gentry said in the spring, before he led USC in TFL in just seven games this season. “Coach Entz is amazing.” When the news was made official Wednesday,… Read more »
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Per ESPN, USC currently has the #5 class in the B1G with seven ESPN 300 signees.
ORE’s class leads B1G recruiting with 14 300’s, followed by OHIO ST with 15 300’s and MICH is 3rd with nine ESPN 300’s.
ESPN’s No. 8 OLB Nathaniel Owusu-Boateng just chose over MICH over CU, OHIO ST, ND and USC.
Louisiana DE (ESPN’s #1) Jahkeem Stewart (6-6, 270) has just announced he will attend USC where he could make a huge early impact!
Whoopeee!
ORE and LSU were the losers here.
Glory hallelujah! Thank you Coach Henny!
Ouch!
Morris and Anes were late flips, with Anes changing his commitment from Wisconsin to Tennessee on Oct. 31 and Morris decommitting from USC to join the Vols on Nov. 25.
“Daune especially, I stayed on him,” MacIntyre said. “I kept telling him the best in the state stay in-state. There’s no reason to go to California when the team in state’s better.”
Report: USC’s Lincoln Riley Targeted by UCF as HC Replacement for Gus Malzahn
Joseph Zucker (B/R) — The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman, Antonio Morales and Ralph Russo reported Wednesday the Knights have “inquired about the availability of USC coach Lincoln Riley.”
“Representatives from UCF reached out to Riley’s representatives last weekend to inquire about his interest in making a move across the country, one source said,” the report said. “Any discussions about adjusting the terms of Riley’s contract would be between him and USC, sources said.”
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If this is legit……. Could we see a certain current USC classroom teacher in the wings as a possible immediate solution? Excuse me right now but I am about to get on my knees and say a prayer or two.
I can’t imagine this happening with Jahkeem Stewart probably receiving a guarantee from USC that he wasn’t headed across the country to a program undergoing a head coaching change. JMHO.
This is great news.
What happens when other schools start wanting to poach your head coach? Their school gives them a nice raise and contract extension. Hang on, this could get exciting!
To Joseph…ok, you got the scoop, but “ain’t no way” this is happening.
Notre Dame lands local San Juan Capistrano LB Madden Faraimo over USC!
And the ND coaches are high fiving eachother and laughing at how LR is a nothing recruiting his home turf.
Without Entz, Riley never had a chance with Faraimo. LR probably just shook his head and signed up another WR. We will know by the end of the day how many top California defensive side players have bolted their State to play for other HCs they respect.
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So far I’m seeing as many or more WR signees than linemen. Dammit Riley what’s your problem? Won’t you ever “get it”?
Right now they have 3 WR, 4 DL, and 4OL. I took a look at what they have committed for 2026 from CA and that looks promising.
No. No, he won’t get it.
Thanks for the recruiting updates Allen. Much appreciated. Hope we land that JS kid Faraimo in SJC? He’s an old school stud! Here’s also hoping we hang on to the other commits as well? The central need at present is USC “needs the beef” on both sides of the line. This last season we’ve had some well meaning comments about PC or Urban Meyer assuming a “general manager” type position over LR. As you well know, these recommendations flirt with “tortious interference with a contract”. Possibly you can cite that black letter rule of law and explain why handing LR… Read more »
I think it’s obvious LR will never be a PC or a Meyer, or even a Sarkisian in recruiting. I could see him recruiting a lineman in a Midwest or southern home and getting laughed at in what he says about the importance of controlling the LOS. Yes PC loved recruiting RBs. But he never did at the expense of linemen. I think LR subconsciously thinks he is still in the Big 12. He will never bring in a Coach O type who would demand who he recruits. LR lives in a fantasy World thinking Air Raid is the answer… Read more »
I’ve tried to tell the TDB for over a year now that LR has never been regarded as a strong recruiter. Losing local LB Madden Faraimo to ND today is just another example of his well-established mediocrity in this important area. “They want me at stack linebacker, with a chance to come off the edge, too,” Faraimo told 247Sports about Notre Dame. “It is very similar to what I did in high school, and they do want me and Kingston Viliamu-Asa on the field together. It’s great to see what they do at linebacker, but I know it’s going to be up… Read more »
Looking at your listing of USC signees, Allen, I am seeing a bunch of 3-star athletes. Looking at the past 3-years versus what Helton was signing, is there really that much difference (except Helton did sign California players)? LR has to be the most underachiever in recruiting of the two major conferences. And it appears it’s business as usual in outside programs coming into California and taking their pick of the spoils.
Hopefully, we don’t lose Louisiana DL Jahkeem Stewart. Disaster City if that happens, and things are bad enough as it is.
Maybe I was just listening to a bunch of sunshine pumpers but listening to these pundants gave me the impression that we were in the hunt for about 7 players. All we got was 2. I would think that if SC wants to play with the OSU’s, Oregons, Alabamas and Georgias, they are going to have to recruit like them. I just don’t think Auburn and Florida should be ahead of us in recruiting. Let’s see how LR does in the transfer portal. He didn’t do very well last year.
My quick, impromptu phrase for this USC recruiting class is ,”Meh, with a big cherry on top!”
I’m taking that to mean that it wasn’t the greatest class but it could have been worse.
I wouldn’t call it anything even remotely close to great.
For many schools, it would be described as absolutely unacceptable. But it’s par for the course for USC these days.
F’ing lazy ass Riley.
USC LB coach Matt Entz accepts head coaching position at Fresno State Chris Trevino (USCFootball.com) — USC linebackers coach Matt Entz has accepted the head coaching job at Fresno State. Entz joined Lincoln Riley’s staff after a successful stint as the HC of North Dakota State, winning two national titles at the FCS level. Entz was always upfront about his stop at USC being an opportunity for him to gain experience to become a HC at the FBS level. “I have head coaching experience, but to be transparent, I’ve had some people tell me that I don’t have FBS recruiting experience and… Read more »
Entz = North Dakota State, not South Dakota State.
Entz obviously learned what little that was available from Linkin’ Riley in less than a year and moved on.
Entz figured out more of what NOT to do, than what to do for Division 1-A football coaching. He no doubt feared that if he hung around any longer, the stink of Riley would be all over him😎.
I doubt he learned anything at all except how NOT to lead a program.
Sark is bringing in a CPC level class.
Erik McKinney (WeAreSC) — Here are the twenty 2025 USC commitments as National Signing Day opens 5-star QB Husan Longstreet (CA) – No. 20 overall On3 Ranking signed 4-star LB Matai Tagoa’i (CA) – No. 98 overall signed 4-star OT Alex Payne (GA) – No. 162 overall signed 4-star OT Aaron Dunn (UT) – No. 184 overall. signed 4-star CB Trestin Castro (CA) – No. 198 overall signed 4-star S Kendarius Reddick (GA) – No. 263 overall signed 4-star WR Romero Ison (MD) – No. 357 overall signed 4-star WR Corey Simms (MO) – No. 258 overall signed 4-star WR Tanook Hines (TX) – No. 370 overall signed 4-star RB Harry Dalton (VA) – No. 377 overall signed 4-star… Read more »
Far from what could have been but…..under a capable coach…..enough to compete.
Allen, do you think USC will land five-star DL Jahkeem Stewart and four-star linebacker Madden Faraimo of JSerra in San Juan Capistrano as well?
I presume the loss of well-regarded Trojan LB coach Matt Entz to FRESNO ST today won’t help with Faraimo (below). ND worries me here, especially as they just beat us in the Coliseum and have been a damaging thorn in USC’s side in the past with local big-time LBs.
Most people in the recruiting biz seem to give USC the nod for Stewart, but I don’t have any inside info on him. Since he’s from Baton Rouge, LSU figures to be a problem for us here and Brian Kelly is under enormous pressure to sign him.
USC recruiting primer: 5 thoughts on the Trojans’ 2025 class on early signing day eve Antonio Morales (The Athletic) — The Trojans need to put an underwhelming 6-6 regular season in the rearview mirror. The most obvious way to fix the issues is through talent acquisition. 1. Forgive me if this sounds like a broken record: The Trojans’ 2025 class, as currently constructed, is fine. It ranks 16th nationally. Will “fine” win you the Big Ten when OHIO ST, MICH and ORE all have top-10 classes? No. It won’t close the talent gap between USC and those programs either. 2. But so far,… Read more »
Good luck Miller and I hope both your USC degree and experience serve you well.
May you land in a strong program and find an OL that gives you time to throw.
Thanks for your prolonged dedication to USC both on and off the field.
One thousand upvotes, Allen.
You deserved better from the clown who was your head coach. Fight On, Miller Moss.
Miller Moss made the perfect scapegoat for a flawed offensive coach. I have seen moronic vitriol being posted everywhere about Miller when all he did is obey orders. After the LSU game people were wearing “Miller Time “ buttons, but a few games later we were hearing it was poor execution that caused late collapses and a finger was pointed at the who threw the ball, as opposed to the guy who dropped the ball. This quarterback problem was brought on by the coach not the player. Moss deserves our thanks for having in there as long as he did.… Read more »
Could not agree more.
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I think Miller Moss will play wherever he goes. He seems like the type of a guy who would do his homework to find the right school where he will not be a backup as opposed to going to a school just because the campus is pretty.
Michigan OC Kirk Campbell Fired from Sherrone Moore’s Coaching Staff Amid 7-5 Season
Andrew Peters (B/R) — Following the conclusion of Michigan’s disappointing 7-5 season, the program fired offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Kirk Campbell, the school announced on Tuesday.
Michigan named tight ends coach Steve Casula as the interim offensive coordinator for the bowl game.
After its national championship a season ago, Michigan ranked 128th out of 134 FBS teams in yds per game, 122nd in yds per play and 111th in points per game.
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How we lost to Michigan this year is one of the mysteries of this season given how bad they were offensively.
This was Lincoln Riley’s famous dumb shovel pass game… Column: USC’s loss to Michigan a reminder that Lincoln Riley falters under pressure Dylan Hernandez (LAT) — Lincoln Riley made some curious play calls, the most noteworthy of them on the possession that preceded Michigan’s winning drive. The Trojans went three-and-out, twice stopping the clock on incomplete shovel passes attempted by QB Miller Moss. The possession burned less than a minute, leaving enough time for the Wolverines to move back in front on Khalel Mullings’ one-yard run with 37 seconds remaining in the game. The Wolverines were more physical on both… Read more »
If Moss truly embodied the Trojan spirit, he would have stayed to “Fight On” and compete for the starting position next year. This transfer portal stuff has gotten way out of hand. It now appears that it’s more advantageous to be a quitter than a fighter. SMH.
Maybe Miller Moss didn’t want to play for Lincoln Riley any longer.
No reason for a player to use his last season of eligibility up like that, especially if he’s a QB.
MM did plenty of fighting for USC. His days of starting for USC were over. Riley’s offense isn’t designed for his type of talent. He made the smart move and now leaves USC with a great degree, good experience, and at least a shot at playing more somewhere else.
I read where MM is considering Michigan. I read yesterday that Quinn Ewers of Texas is looking at Michigan. If both end up there, Moss will be a backup. He might consider Boise State who has definitely moved into the limelight with its great running back.
Report: USC QB Miller Moss Eyes Michigan, Auburn, More as Transfer Landing Spots
Doric Sam (B/R) — After announcing his plans to transfer from USC on Monday, QB Miller Moss has reportedly identified a few potential destinations.
According to Pete Nakos of On3.com, Moss “is expected to look at Michigan, Auburn, Iowa and Louisville” when he officially enters the transfer portal.
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Thirteen Trojans Earn All-Big Ten Conference Honors
usctrojans.com — P Eddie Czaplicki not only earned First Team honors by the coaches and the media, but he was named the Eddleman-Fields Punter of the Year.
RB Woody Marks and OL Emmanuel Pregnon both were selected to the Second Team.
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