Miller Moss Made the Best of His USC Experience

Why Miller Moss thanked his USC senior-thesis advisor in transfer announcement

Moss once wrote a lengthy, year-long thesis at USC on the concept of athletic amateurism – when he had no need to even take the course to graduate

USC quarterback Miller Moss, who announced his plans to transfer on Monday, paid special thanks to one of his USC professors during his social media announcement. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)
Miller Moss, who announced his transfer plans on Monday, paid special thanks to one of his USC professors during his social media announcement. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill)

Luca Evans (OC Register)  —  LOS ANGELES — Two years ago, USC professor Nathan Perl-Rosenthal received an application for his HIST 493 Law, History and Culture thesis course that he found rather interesting: an exploration of the NCAA’s concept of athletic “amateurism” and its modern evolution.

The submission came from Miller Moss.

Perl-Rosenthal, a Harvard graduate and lifelong academic, had seen perhaps two football games in his adult life. He had no idea who Miller Moss was. He knew, simply, that Moss was a Law, History and Culture major and had a strong enough GPA, despite applying as a junior for an honors class generally reserved for seniors. So he admitted Moss as part of a five-person class, the young man the youngest member of the group, en route to his graduating in exactly two years from USC.

It wasn’t until Perl-Rosenthal met him that he learned Moss was a quarterback at USC. He never really learned much else about that, too. But Perl-Rosenthal knew one thing: the Law, History and Culture major did not require taking this honors class, and writing a roughly 60-to-100-page thesis over the course of a year, to graduate. There was “absolutely no reason,” as the professor put it, Moss had to apply.

“It was unusual,” Perl-Rosenthal reflected Monday, asked about his history teaching football players. “That was unusual. Quite unusual, actually.”

Moss enrolled, as Perl-Rosenthal came to learn during the year-long course, because he wanted the intellectual challenge. It was the same reason, ultimately, that Moss came to stay at USC for four years in carving out a path that has become near-unheard of in modern college sports, a former top recruit who sat patiently as a backup for three seasons before getting a shot at a starting job. Valuing a USC degree, as Moss himself said back in the summer, was a large reason he had stuck around.

After an up-and-down season when he lost that starting job, Moss officially transferred from USC on Monday – living, in real time, the changing definition of amateurism he had once explored in his thesis in HIST 493. In a wholly unique decision announcement for a wholly unique USC quarterback, though, Moss gave a specific “special thank you” on social media to Perl-Rosenthal, writing the professor’s guidance “steered me intellectually in ways that I had not been before.”

Perl-Rosenthal had talked with Moss only intermittently since the course finished, about a year and a half ago. He found out about the acknowledgement, in complete surprise, through a request for an interview from the Southern California News Group.

“I do sort of think – football has been his life,” Perl-Rosenthal said, reflecting on Moss’ message of thanks. “But he also wanted to get a good education. And not just, like, check a bunch of boxes and say, ‘I got a good education,’ but actually really challenge himself. Like, that was what was so clear to me.”

It was the final flourish to a path at USC, in a changing era of college athletics, that stands apart from a wide range of Moss’ peers. He grew up, similar to them, on a carousel of private QB coaches; he also grew up competing in chess tournaments, and playing piano, and drawing lists of numbers on pieces of paper. His thesis, focused on that legal definition of amateurism, was in many ways a direct self-reflection of his life as a student-athlete.

“The question of, like, what is a student? What is athletic amateurism in college sports, and is it really – does it really exist, or are we just pretending, right?” Perl-Rosenthal reflected. “That’s kind of the question he was asking.”

They read legal texts like novels, in Perl-Rosenthal’s class. They wrote sections of their thesis, and presented it, and re-wrote it, again and again and again. Moss, Perl-Rosenthal reflected, was “quite a good writer,” and delved back to the very 20th-century origins of NCAA amateurism.

And for a year, Moss frequently stepped inside the context of a historian and outside the context of a football player. The latter, ultimately, is the identity he will be remembered for.

But Moss ultimately stayed as long as he did, at USC, for the concept of the student-athlete he once spent a year exploring with Perl-Rosenthal.

“I think he has a bright future,” Perl-Rosenthal reflected, “regardless of what he decides to do.”

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parcelman007
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December 13, 2024 3:48 am

To get open and get separation you need what we used to call(when I was coaching) speed off of a cut. You plant you foot to make your cut and then you explode and create a gap between you and the D-Back. Marquise Lee had it and so did Robert Woods. George Farmer didn’t. He had straight sprinters speed which allowed him to run by the defenders on deep routes in college but on short routes he used his bigger body to muscle in the catch. When he got to the pros and had to go up against those speed… Read more »

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December 13, 2024 3:32 am

For all the talk about SC’s great receivers, they do have some receivers who can climb the ladder and get the allie oops and even a few that can catch the ball in a crowd. That’s puts a lot of pressure for the QB to put the ball on a dime. But aside from Makai Lemon and maybe Kyle Ford, they don’t have a whole lot of guys that get separation and actually get open.

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December 13, 2024 3:14 am

They say LR has a photographic mind. That may be but he is also a slow learner. It took him forever to learn that you can’t win without defense. When he finally came to that conclusion he did make some good adjustments which also says something good about him. But he’s made a lot of mistakes.Alex Grench was a huge mistake. He had what I think could have been the next great RB in USC history(Quinton Joiner) and he only ran him 81 times in 2 years. That’s just a little over 40 times a year(just over 3 carries a… Read more »

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December 5, 2024 7:00 am

USC doesn’t recruit like it used to. Remember when USC could “recruit itself” back before the ncaa attacked. I think a lot of the reason is these guys were babies during the PC era. They have grown up looking at USC being mediocre, and at times looking pretty bad. They have all watched tOHS, Bama, Clemson, Georgia, and Oregon grab the headlines, ratings, and trophies. What has USC done during their lifetime to really impress. Darnold won a Rose Bowl. One coach got fired getting off the bus, another because of substance abuse, another was kept way to long. USC… Read more »

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December 5, 2024 8:00 am
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Apparently USC coaches don’t recruit like they used to either.

I’d love to see LR be as offensive minded in recruiting as he is in play calling.

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December 5, 2024 8:22 am
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Frankly, I agree with just about everything you posted.

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December 4, 2024 8:33 pm

Everybody knows I’am not a fan of LR…….and I think his recruiting skills are deficient. but……I’am not disappointed with this class or last year’s class. We lost out on a lot of 5 star talent that I believe in this era of big bucks was never coming to USC. Let’s face it, we just went 6-6 and our coach is being crapped on everywhere. That affects recruits in spite of cash. We have the natural USC advantages but they are being masked by Riley. Even the timing of Entz leaving and the purported new job on NSD is very questionable,… Read more »

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December 4, 2024 9:04 pm
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Yep!……love him or hate him…..he is the coach and we are Trojans.

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December 4, 2024 6:58 pm

Websites are indicating signing Jawkeen Stewart saved LR’s skin alone especially since some 10 5-star athletes flipped elsewhere to sign elsewhere. LR’s margin for error comes narrower each season.

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December 4, 2024 8:14 pm
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No doubt Riley sold Entz a crock of crap to entice him here and Entz figured out that nothing Riley promised him would come to fruition as long as Riley was leading our moribund program.

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December 5, 2024 7:50 am
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I think we saw a turn around at linebacker with Entz as coach. Even Cobb played better, and Gentry was totally reenergized as a linebacker and as a football player, according to him. He did what he was hired to do, and part of that was to get exposure to the upper divisions of football. He did that and got a job offer. Great job. No matter what Riley fed him, Entz accomplished what he set out to do, although I wish he would have taken a couple more years to do it.

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December 4, 2024 8:42 pm
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Allen, got to disagree with you on this. If a Coach is leaving, I believe this should be announced asap to be fair to any recruit considering signing with a school. I applaud the school’s transparency on this matter.

volunteerTrojan
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December 4, 2024 4:51 pm
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Hard to disagree with. USC is on its way to becoming a “Have Not”. LR is on his way to be considered “not a winner”, if he isn’t already there. This signing day, along with the past 30 days or so for decommitments, is extremely disappointing.

Since LR has called this “home”, he’d better get out in his “home’s” backyard and build a Jerico Wall around it because it has been seriously invaded!

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December 4, 2024 9:53 pm
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I think anyone thinking UCF had a shot at LR is delusional. That being said, if I’m UCF, there’s no reason not to enquire any and every where. Hey, who knows, they might get a bite with Frost or some other kinda big name. But there’s no way LR’s ego would ever allow him to go to UCF from USC. That’s basically admitting himself to be a failure and that the job was too big for him. And what would be the point, to build a winner so he could land at a blue blood school, like, oh, I don’t… Read more »

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December 5, 2024 7:01 am
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I don’t expect USC to react with any kind of salary extension or increase for LR. That would draw even more ire on the admin.

It is interesting though that a school of such a location and status as UCF would reach out. We here are so close to things that we may be at risk of overreacting from time to time, but this confirms that LR’s troubles are indeed known and discussed far and wide and at all levels of cfb.

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December 5, 2024 12:26 pm
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“Bad Christmas stocking” = quotable vignette of the day! 😂

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December 4, 2024 6:58 pm
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I don’t think God had anything to do with it. In this crazy world, God has more to think about than college football recruiting

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December 4, 2024 9:54 pm
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Unless his god is $$.

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December 4, 2024 7:02 pm
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Who would be your picks for signing day teams who were the big losers?

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December 4, 2024 3:18 pm

With Entz gone I would love to see Chris Claiborne come back to USC.

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December 4, 2024 8:09 pm
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Please reconsider, Coach Jakalope!

volunteerTrojan
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December 4, 2024 1:46 pm

I wasn’t able to catch LR’s press conference today, if anyone would be so kind as to post a summary of the highlights and your take on it, I’d appreciate it. (Too bad I can’t ask chapGPT to summarize it.)

volunteerTrojan
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December 4, 2024 9:55 pm
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Appropriately fitting, unfortunately. Kind of how the season went.

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December 4, 2024 11:55 am

nm

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December 4, 2024 11:35 am
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Glory hallelujah! Thank you Coach Henny!

volunteerTrojan
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December 4, 2024 11:07 am

Ouch!

Morris and Anes were late flips, with Anes changing his commitment from Wisconsin to Tennessee on Oct. 31 and Morris decommitting from USC to join the Vols on Nov. 25.

“Daune especially, I stayed on him,” MacIntyre said. “I kept telling him the best in the state stay in-state. There’s no reason to go to California when the team in state’s better.”

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December 4, 2024 11:42 am
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If this is legit……. Could we see a certain current USC classroom teacher in the wings as a possible immediate solution? Excuse me right now but I am about to get on my knees and say a prayer or two.

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December 4, 2024 11:56 am
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This is great news.

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December 4, 2024 2:46 pm
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What happens when other schools start wanting to poach your head coach? Their school gives them a nice raise and contract extension. Hang on, this could get exciting!

volunteerTrojan
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December 4, 2024 1:43 pm
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To Joseph…ok, you got the scoop, but “ain’t no way” this is happening.

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December 4, 2024 10:37 am
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And the ND coaches are high fiving eachother and laughing at how LR is a nothing recruiting his home turf.

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December 4, 2024 10:54 am
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Without Entz, Riley never had a chance with Faraimo. LR probably just shook his head and signed up another WR. We will know by the end of the day how many top California defensive side players have bolted their State to play for other HCs they respect.

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December 4, 2024 10:57 am
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Miss read it

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December 4, 2024 10:16 am

So far I’m seeing as many or more WR signees than linemen. Dammit Riley what’s your problem? Won’t you ever “get it”?

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December 4, 2024 3:06 pm
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Right now they have 3 WR, 4 DL, and 4OL. I took a look at what they have committed for 2026 from CA and that looks promising.

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December 4, 2024 8:03 pm
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No. No, he won’t get it.

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December 4, 2024 10:09 am

Thanks for the recruiting updates Allen. Much appreciated. Hope we land that JS kid Faraimo in SJC? He’s an old school stud! Here’s also hoping we hang on to the other commits as well? The central need at present is USC “needs the beef” on both sides of the line. This last season we’ve had some well meaning comments about PC or Urban Meyer assuming a “general manager” type position over LR. As you well know, these recommendations flirt with “tortious interference with a contract”. Possibly you can cite that black letter rule of law and explain why handing LR… Read more »

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December 4, 2024 10:34 am
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I think it’s obvious LR will never be a PC or a Meyer, or even a Sarkisian in recruiting. I could see him recruiting a lineman in a Midwest or southern home and getting laughed at in what he says about the importance of controlling the LOS. Yes PC loved recruiting RBs. But he never did at the expense of linemen. I think LR subconsciously thinks he is still in the Big 12. He will never bring in a Coach O type who would demand who he recruits. LR lives in a fantasy World thinking Air Raid is the answer… Read more »

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December 4, 2024 10:47 am
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Looking at your listing of USC signees, Allen, I am seeing a bunch of 3-star athletes. Looking at the past 3-years versus what Helton was signing, is there really that much difference (except Helton did sign California players)? LR has to be the most underachiever in recruiting of the two major conferences. And it appears it’s business as usual in outside programs coming into California and taking their pick of the spoils.

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Maybe I was just listening to a bunch of sunshine pumpers but listening to these pundants gave me the impression that we were in the hunt for about 7 players. All we got was 2. I would think that if SC wants to play with the OSU’s, Oregons, Alabamas and Georgias, they are going to have to recruit like them. I just don’t think Auburn and Florida should be ahead of us in recruiting. Let’s see how LR does in the transfer portal. He didn’t do very well last year.

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December 4, 2024 7:46 pm
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I’m taking that to mean that it wasn’t the greatest class but it could have been worse.

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December 4, 2024 8:02 pm
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F’ing lazy ass Riley.

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December 4, 2024 10:49 am
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Entz = North Dakota State, not South Dakota State.

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December 4, 2024 8:00 pm
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Entz obviously learned what little that was available from Linkin’ Riley in less than a year and moved on.

Entz figured out more of what NOT to do, than what to do for Division 1-A football coaching. He no doubt feared that if he hung around any longer, the stink of Riley would be all over him😎.

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December 4, 2024 9:57 pm
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I doubt he learned anything at all except how NOT to lead a program.

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December 4, 2024 7:45 am

Sark is bringing in a CPC level class.

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December 4, 2024 6:19 am
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Far from what could have been but…..under a capable coach…..enough to compete.

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December 4, 2024 8:55 am
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Allen, do you think USC will land five-star DL Jahkeem Stewart and four-star linebacker Madden Faraimo of JSerra in San Juan Capistrano as well?

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December 3, 2024 8:19 pm
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One thousand upvotes, Allen.

You deserved better from the clown who was your head coach. Fight On, Miller Moss.

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December 3, 2024 4:57 pm

Miller Moss made the perfect scapegoat for a flawed offensive coach. I have seen moronic vitriol being posted everywhere about Miller when all he did is obey orders. After the LSU game people were wearing “Miller Time “ buttons, but a few games later we were hearing it was poor execution that caused late collapses and a finger was pointed at the who threw the ball, as opposed to the guy who dropped the ball. This quarterback problem was brought on by the coach not the player. Moss deserves our thanks for having in there as long as he did.… Read more »

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December 3, 2024 7:44 pm
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Could not agree more.

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December 3, 2024 4:01 pm

I think Miller Moss will play wherever he goes. He seems like the type of a guy who would do his homework to find the right school where he will not be a backup as opposed to going to a school just because the campus is pretty.

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December 3, 2024 5:46 pm
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How we lost to Michigan this year is one of the mysteries of this season given how bad they were offensively.

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December 3, 2024 2:26 pm

If Moss truly embodied the Trojan spirit, he would have stayed to “Fight On” and compete for the starting position next year. This transfer portal stuff has gotten way out of hand. It now appears that it’s more advantageous to be a quitter than a fighter. SMH.

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December 13, 2024 2:52 am
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I read where MM is considering Michigan. I read yesterday that Quinn Ewers of Texas is looking at Michigan. If both end up there, Moss will be a backup. He might consider Boise State who has definitely moved into the limelight with its great running back.

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