For Chip Kelly and Lincoln Riley, what are the stakes headed into UCLA-USC game?
Ryan Kartje (LA Times)ย —ย By the final weeks of UCLAโsย 1980 season,ย Terry Donahueย was well aware of the whispers about his future. The Bruins coach had yet to beatย USCย in his tenure, losing four times in four tries, and in the crosstown rivalry, that just wasnโt cutting it. His fifth attempt, Donahue figured, would be a referendum on his place as UCLAโs coach.
โThe word on the street was if I didnโt win the game, I was out,โ the longtime Bruins coach told The Times in 2011.
Donahue,ย who died in 2021, never had to find out if the rumors were true. He beat the Trojans in 1980, kept his job and went to become the winningest coach in Bruins history. His successors at UCLA wouldnโt be quite so fortunate.
Ever since Donahueโs day, the crosstown rivalry has been littered with referendums gone awry for Bruin coaches. In 2007,ย Karl Dorrell lost his jobย two days after losing to the Trojans.ย Rick Neuheisel was firedย after a 50-0 flogging by USC in 2011. And Jim Mora wasย ousted in 2017 on his birthday, one day after a third straight loss to the Trojans, who seemed to revel in delivering the final blow to one Bruin coach after another.
The word around Westwood this rivalry week suggests the same fateย could befall UCLAโs Chip Kellyย if the Bruins are humiliated at the Coliseum in the wake of back-to-back losses to Arizona and Arizona State. Nearing the end of his sixth season, Kelly could beย coaching for his jobย Saturday. Though, the more pertinent question may be whether a win over the Trojans, whose season is also unraveling, would even be much of a referendum at all.
Like his predecessors, Kelly understands the importance of winning the rivalry game. Donahue provided a primer, Kelly said, the coach tearing up at the memory of the legendary Bruin who was recently honored with the unveiling of a statue at the Rose Bowl.
โThe first time I met with him heโs like, โYou gotta beat your rival,โโ Kelly said, โand then he smiled at me and said, โI was 10 and 9.โโ
Kelly is 2-3 in the rivalry, and a loss Saturday would nudge his 33-33 overall record at UCLA back below .500. That would be a referendum of its own, given the Trojansโ recent struggles.
USCย is in a freefall, losers of four of its last five, a former College Football Playoff contender now scraping rock bottom heading into Saturdayโs rivalry matchup with UCLA.ย Lincoln Rileyย may not be sitting in a seat as scorching hot as his counterpart, but the USC coach finds himself in a far less comfortable position now than he did last November.
Riley had never lost more than three games in a season before this one. Now heโs lost that many in the lastย month, the nadir so far of an otherwise sterling career.
Although Rileyโs support within the university hasnโt wavered, the next month โ starting Saturday โ will say a lot about the direction heโs taking USC. Heย already has fired Alex Grinch, his defensive coordinator, finally making a move that fans had been demanding for more than a year.
How far the culling continues from there could depend in part on how USCโs defense responds Saturday. Already some players have started to disappear from the practice field.
โI expect us to take a major step forward this weekend, I do,โ Riley said. โPlain and simple.โ
Of the two coaches, it was Kelly who managed to resurrect his defense this season. UCLA climbed from 90th in points allowed in 2022 to ninth a year later, a stunning rise that by all means shouldโve sent the Bruins surging to the top of the Pac-12. Instead, it only made them a more profound disappointment, as Kellyโs vaunted offense cratered, cycling through four quarterbacks on its way to near-total futility.
Riley could sympathize with the struggle. The same had been true for USC and its defense all season.
โItโs hard to time it out sometimes where it all clicks at the same time,โ the Trojans coach said.
The fact that UCLA clicked so quickly under new defensive coordinatorย DโAnton Lynnย had certainly caught Rileyโs attention. Heโll have a close-up look Saturday at Lynn, whose fast work could make himย a particularly intriguing optionย for another reclamation project across town โ or at the very least earn him a significant raise from his $1-million annual salary.
Either way, as Riley sees it, UCLAโs overnight transformation on defense is proof of concept that USC can pull off something similar. Assuming, of course, heโs able to bring the right defensive coordinator.
โItโs come together for them,โ Riley said. โYou look across college football, whether itโs UCLA, there have been plenty of examples of when you can turn things around and grab some momentum, and you get some of the right pieces on board, both from a staff and a player perspective, that you can make really major gains quickly. Itโs very possible.โ
But neither team can be expected to change their stripes by Saturday. UCLA will lean onย its elite defense, which has held eight of its 10 opponents this season to 17 points or fewer. USC will let Caleb Williams, its star quarterback, cook in whatย could be his last collegiate game.
While Riley raved this week about UCLAโs โtremendousโ defensive front led byย edge rusher Laiatu Latu, Kelly piled on praise about Williams, joining the chorus comparing him to Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes.
โHeโs a truly special player โ in all of college football and one for the ages,โ Kelly said. โHe makes some plays where you just kind of shake your head and go, โOh my god.โโ
Keeping pace with a Heisman winner wonโt be easy forย Ethan Garbers, whoโs expected to start at quarterback for UCLA after sitting out last weekโs loss to Arizona State with an apparent foot injury. Where Garbers has six touchdown passes all season, Williams has six (four passing, two rushing) over his last two games.
โThey have the returning Heisman winner at quarterback,โ Kelly said. โThey can score a lot of points. Weโve got to be prepared for that.โ
That left no room for other discussion this week at UCLA, nor any reflection from Kelly on the Bruinsโ big picture. Was the speculation about his job a distraction to the team? โNo, no at all,โ Kelly said.
But elsewhere, the conversation about Kelly was already carrying on, too loud now, after six seasons, to ignore.
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Did anyone catch the phrase ” Already some players have started to disappear from the practice field.” What is the writer referring to here? Have guys left the program already?
Ceyair Wright is not with the team. Thereโs also noise about Korey Foreman and a few players who are expected to redshirt this season. So I assume those are the players referenced
I have heard about Ceyair, he is not in the program. If guys are just redshirting, they can still practice, unless they have told coach they are going portal. Of course USC is quiet on all players status it seems.
I have read where Raesjon Davis had wrist surgery and is done for the year.
If guys arenโt there Chris Trevino would have that info. They are at every practice and watch who comes out in each position group. He usually tweets about it.
One coach who should have been fired after a Ucla loss was Paul Hackett. In 1998, his team lost to Cade McNown. It was not only an embarrassing loss, but it killed Giles Pellerin the USC superfan. I remember Carson Palmer was quarterback and Petros Papadakis was a running back.
I donโt think Riley will be looking over his shoulder Saturday and I doubt Ucla will be willing to buy out Kelly, but USC defensive coaches are certainly coaching for their jobs.
As a first year grad student at SC, my first SC – UCLA game was the 1988 game at the Rose Bowl. It was the battle between Rodney Peete and Troy Aikman. The winner won the Pac-10 title and a trip to the Rose Bowl while the loser would go to the Cotton Bowl. It was an incredible game where Rodney totally balled out and the atmosphere was electric. Of course, SC won the game. After the game was over, I remember sitting on a bus in the Rose Bowl parking lot waiting to go back to campus. I saw… Read more ยป
You and I both know or at least suspect, that UCLA will play very well against USC tomorrow — because they often cause trouble for USC head-to-head. I get the feeling this is gonna be a big play game, both positive and negative.
The Bruins gotta want this year’s battle pretty bad for the possible sake of their very own coach, the guy they ultimately came and signed up to play for.
And yes, watching the Bruins cry over their football team has a certain Happy Christmas feel to it.
Crosstown Rivalry has always been special to anyone growing up in SoCal. From my earliest memories in the early 60s to now, even when championships are not at stake, you take the flavor of the City Championship and let it soke in. The years when both teams had a chance for the conference title and even the National College title, it just raised the emotion up another notch. I’m hoping for a competitive game with both teams playing to their potential but of course we pull it out at the last play of the game. Looks like both programs may/will… Read more ยป
Ya, UCLA had J Rob’s number when he came back. but to his credit, he went 2-2-1 over ND and got USC back on track in that rivalry. I was at the ’96 game at the Coliseum when USC won 27-20 in OT, and it was easily one of the greatest football experiences I have ever had. On the field after the game with so many hundreds of others (which I doubt you could even do anymore), I ran into ESPN’s Chris Fowler, and he was all smiles and congrats about the hugely dramatic Trojan win. Just a grand night,… Read more ยป
Robo vs gutties 1976 – Both teams with one loss, big national game. Robo and Donahue 1st year. Dennis Thurman catches a Theotus Brown fumble and returns it for 6. The beleaguered Vince Evans streaks for a late TD and wrap ups the Trojan win. Robo 1-0 1977 – Frank Jordan kicks game winner as clock strikes Zero. Robo 2-0 1978 – Another battle of 1 loss teams. Two early Paul McDonald TD passes, a tough D, and Charlie White running out the clock. Robo 3-0 1979 – USC celebration. Blowout. Robo 4-0 1980 – The tipped TD by Freeman… Read more ยป
Poor Scott Tinsley … lost both those whacky finishes. But he did go 2-0 vs ND. I would have traded 1 of those wins for him holding on to that FG snap in that awful 21-21 loss vs Stanford in 1979.
James was truly a great coach. I always liked that guy a lot. Five 10+ game winning seasons. 150-60-2 all-time with the Huskies.
His undefeated NC-winning 1991 team was a total juggernaut. USC came closer than anyone else to his team that year, losing 14-3 in L.A. In ’84, USC was the only team to beat him that year, 16-7 at the Coliseum.
Amazing coach. His teams always so sound and tough.
His 1991 was one of the best ever, and top 5 if Brunnell doesnโt get a knee and misses the season.
Watched them live at Nebraska that year. Big, athletic and fast at all positions.
Fairly early in my SuperPrep days, I actually called Don James on the phone and left a message. I can’t imagine what the hell I was thinking, or what my question was, since dealing with RCs and assts was basically much more my level. James returned my call, and what we talked about I can no longer remember. I always regarded him as a class act who never got the credit he deserved. I’m rooting for the Huskies big-time to win the Pac-12, go undefeated, and get into the playoffs. Husky Stadium is a great place to see a game,… Read more ยป
Daily Trojan — In a midseason matchup between the No.1 ranked Trojans and a slow-starting Cardinals team, USC found itself up 21-0 at halftime before allowing Stanford to come back and tie the game up at 21.
The game ended in a tie because both teams missed field goals in the final minute. Following the disappointing tie result, the Trojans fell to No. 4 in the rankings. The Trojans would miss out on a national championship bid despite finishing 11-0-1.
Just reading your compilation makes us all know tomorrow should be another memorable game in the series.
Both tragically flawed teams are pissed at how the season folded out, and both HCs have been a disappointment, but this win always gets a lot of handshakes.
Did anyone catch the phrase ” Already some players have started to disappear from the practice field.” What is the writer referring to here? Have guys left the program already?
Ceyair Wright is not with the team. Thereโs also noise about Korey Foreman and a few players who are expected to redshirt this season. So I assume those are the players referenced
I have heard about Ceyair, he is not in the program. If guys are just redshirting, they can still practice, unless they have told coach they are going portal. Of course USC is quiet on all players status it seems.
I have read where Raesjon Davis had wrist surgery and is done for the year.
If guys arenโt there Chris Trevino would have that info. They are at every practice and watch who comes out in each position group. He usually tweets about it.
Good old Korey. He came in with #1 fanfare and never came close to even being a solid starter.
But he did what only an unknown few can ever claim, and that is to break UCLA’s back with a sudden beautiful, late pick.
One coach who should have been fired after a Ucla loss was Paul Hackett. In 1998, his team lost to Cade McNown. It was not only an embarrassing loss, but it killed Giles Pellerin the USC superfan. I remember Carson Palmer was quarterback and Petros Papadakis was a running back.
I donโt think Riley will be looking over his shoulder Saturday and I doubt Ucla will be willing to buy out Kelly, but USC defensive coaches are certainly coaching for their jobs.
As a first year grad student at SC, my first SC – UCLA game was the 1988 game at the Rose Bowl. It was the battle between Rodney Peete and Troy Aikman. The winner won the Pac-10 title and a trip to the Rose Bowl while the loser would go to the Cotton Bowl. It was an incredible game where Rodney totally balled out and the atmosphere was electric. Of course, SC won the game. After the game was over, I remember sitting on a bus in the Rose Bowl parking lot waiting to go back to campus. I saw… Read more ยป
You and I both know or at least suspect, that UCLA will play very well against USC tomorrow — because they often cause trouble for USC head-to-head. I get the feeling this is gonna be a big play game, both positive and negative.
The Bruins gotta want this year’s battle pretty bad for the possible sake of their very own coach, the guy they ultimately came and signed up to play for.
And yes, watching the Bruins cry over their football team has a certain Happy Christmas feel to it.
Crosstown Rivalry has always been special to anyone growing up in SoCal. From my earliest memories in the early 60s to now, even when championships are not at stake, you take the flavor of the City Championship and let it soke in. The years when both teams had a chance for the conference title and even the National College title, it just raised the emotion up another notch. I’m hoping for a competitive game with both teams playing to their potential but of course we pull it out at the last play of the game. Looks like both programs may/will… Read more ยป
USC’s Big Four vs UCLA (25-13-1)
John McKay’s record vs UCLA was 10-5-1
Pete Carroll 8-1
Howard Jones 2-0
John Robinson 5-7
Surprised John Robinson had more losses than wins against UCLA. Must have been those games in 1990’s when UCLA beat us 9 years in a row.
Ya, UCLA had J Rob’s number when he came back. but to his credit, he went 2-2-1 over ND and got USC back on track in that rivalry. I was at the ’96 game at the Coliseum when USC won 27-20 in OT, and it was easily one of the greatest football experiences I have ever had. On the field after the game with so many hundreds of others (which I doubt you could even do anymore), I ran into ESPN’s Chris Fowler, and he was all smiles and congrats about the hugely dramatic Trojan win. Just a grand night,… Read more ยป
Robo vs gutties 1976 – Both teams with one loss, big national game. Robo and Donahue 1st year. Dennis Thurman catches a Theotus Brown fumble and returns it for 6. The beleaguered Vince Evans streaks for a late TD and wrap ups the Trojan win. Robo 1-0 1977 – Frank Jordan kicks game winner as clock strikes Zero. Robo 2-0 1978 – Another battle of 1 loss teams. Two early Paul McDonald TD passes, a tough D, and Charlie White running out the clock. Robo 3-0 1979 – USC celebration. Blowout. Robo 4-0 1980 – The tipped TD by Freeman… Read more ยป
Robo 1
Both UCLA wins over Robo 1 came when SC was starting its backup QB.
That’s why USC was so good when both Mike Rae and Pat Haden could step in and succeed against the best.
Poor Scott Tinsley … lost both those whacky finishes. But he did go 2-0 vs ND. I would have traded 1 of those wins for him holding on to that FG snap in that awful 21-21 loss vs Stanford in 1979.
Hello Scott. My name is Karl Morgan.
Perfectly put. 21-21 loss. Only cost the National Championship.
Don James claimed after losing a great game his team (a good one and at home) could not play any better … USC would be a 10 pt favorite vs anyone.
James was truly a great coach. I always liked that guy a lot. Five 10+ game winning seasons. 150-60-2 all-time with the Huskies.
His undefeated NC-winning 1991 team was a total juggernaut. USC came closer than anyone else to his team that year, losing 14-3 in L.A. In ’84, USC was the only team to beat him that year, 16-7 at the Coliseum.
And he resigned due to a new NCAA rule he disagreed with ( or was it a PAC-10 rule? I donโt remember). What a shame!
Pac mainly
Amazing coach. His teams always so sound and tough.
His 1991 was one of the best ever, and top 5 if Brunnell doesnโt get a knee and misses the season.
Watched them live at Nebraska that year. Big, athletic and fast at all positions.
Fairly early in my SuperPrep days, I actually called Don James on the phone and left a message. I can’t imagine what the hell I was thinking, or what my question was, since dealing with RCs and assts was basically much more my level. James returned my call, and what we talked about I can no longer remember. I always regarded him as a class act who never got the credit he deserved. I’m rooting for the Huskies big-time to win the Pac-12, go undefeated, and get into the playoffs. Husky Stadium is a great place to see a game,… Read more ยป
Daily Trojan — In a midseason matchup between the No.1 ranked Trojans and a slow-starting Cardinals team, USC found itself up 21-0 at halftime before allowing Stanford to come back and tie the game up at 21.
The game ended in a tie because both teams missed field goals in the final minute. Following the disappointing tie result, the Trojans fell to No. 4 in the rankings. The Trojans would miss out on a national championship bid despite finishing 11-0-1.
Just reading your compilation makes us all know tomorrow should be another memorable game in the series.
Both tragically flawed teams are pissed at how the season folded out, and both HCs have been a disappointment, but this win always gets a lot of handshakes.