Just What Is Lincoln Riley’s Worth?

Colin Cowherd puts a few more nails into the Helton and Swann coffins —

Lincoln Riley makes over a hundred million. Damn straight he does.

Clay Helton not only crushed the roster, but he and Lynn Swann almost killed the program. That’s a billion-dollar brand. Literally, there’s nobody at the games now with two NFL teams.

“So Lincoln Riley now is in a mad dash in the transfer portal to not only get the roster better, because it’s a mess…but also to get the brand back, to churning revenue, 75,000 USC hoodies all over town and golf shirts and hats…

“USC football’s had about three great coaches ever, and about nine whiffs. Just be very careful. Tread very lightly (when dealing with great coaches).”

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HOF19
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January 21, 2022 5:37 pm

I still want Caleb but I gotta be honest …..I don’t seem to love him today as much as I did 2-3 weeks ago ……….But some guy named Lincoln Riley has A TON of my love ……Fight On !

Golden Trojan
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January 21, 2022 4:07 pm

USC’s current OL,

Brett Neilon
Andrew Vorhees
Justin Dedich
Courtland Ford
Jonah Monheim
Bobby Haskins

Plus 7 others I don’t know if played. Does a QB sleep at night with this protection?

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January 21, 2022 4:14 pm
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This o/l is not nearly as bad as it was 2 years ago. It made strides last year and is not unrealistic to think it will improve again this year. Plus LR offense will be more effective than the GH offense. I am not projecting the o/l to be the best in the league. But I am not as worried about it as I was in previous years.

Golden Trojan
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January 21, 2022 5:04 pm
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I gotta think improved culture, coaching and conditioning will step this group up even more.

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January 21, 2022 5:29 pm
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Yeah…A little tough love and a hunger to win

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January 21, 2022 2:34 pm

Caleb is down to LSU and USC.

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January 21, 2022 3:29 pm
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If NFL future is the driving consideration, he is over-thinking it. Really no difference in the long run with either, and probably a couple other schools. The film he lays down at any of several schools, plus his combine performance or personal workout results, will be the determining factor. With USC, he gets known coach, known offense, better receivers, and a better chance to put up better stats against weaker defenses. With an SEC pick, he gets unknowns in all those…only upside is “playing in SEC is better” perception. Big risk departing from Riley. Also, the amount of money to… Read more »

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January 21, 2022 3:48 pm

HIS leading schools last year WERE BOTH HORRIBLE!!!
So in my opinion, His Helicopter Daddy is trying to milk the NIL for all its worth.

I have a gut feeling from just watching Riley’s body language and facial expressions, I doubt he is willing to play the Williams games, he knows Caleb’s strengths and weak points better than anyone including his Daddy.

If Caleb chooses LSU, I bet Dart snaps back like a rubber band. Then Riley makes Dart his personal project.

Golden Trojan
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January 21, 2022 3:59 pm
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Dart is a very good Plan B with Moss another year to grow. At this point Williams or Dart will do just fine.

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January 21, 2022 6:06 pm
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I have read in more than one place that Calebs final 3 schools coming out of HS were LSU/OU/Maryland. I wouldn’t categorize LSU/OU as horrible. And Maryland is his home state and has a new coach who has had some early success. I would prefer that Williams would have signed somewhere by now. As a biased Trojan fan I think his best option is SC. But he is taking advantage of the college football landscape he finds himself in and more power to him. If he comes to SC the rebuilding job LR is undertaking will be easier. If he… Read more »

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January 21, 2022 5:00 pm

Almost nobody goes into the nfl ready to play. This kid will play college, learn a lot, then go to the nfl and realize it is a full time job and a serious business. What he learned in college is only the beginning. His dad is full of crap.

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January 21, 2022 5:20 pm
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Just 2 recently, Sam Darnold…Josh Allen

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January 21, 2022 4:10 pm
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Caleb seems like a prima donna.
Let LSU have him and see how they do.
Would rather have Dart back.
Or even JT Daniels.

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January 22, 2022 12:14 am
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If I were in charge I would want to make his decision easier by taking the offer off the table. And do it quickly before Jaxon and JT commit to another team. The situation we’re in now can be rightfully blamed on Clay Helton. Use the free pass and let’s move on.

Good thing it’s not my decision to make.

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January 21, 2022 4:17 pm
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Sec would be good prep for NFL. An USC degree is not high on their list.
For this kid I would not bet on us if its truly down to 2. LR has a plan. Ok it’s been over 4 hrs since last transfer. How about 2-3 big D guys before Sunday?

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January 21, 2022 6:34 pm
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I just listened to a short LSU spot on YT. The LSU guy was smart, he was surprised about the news. Yet quickly said LSU is now looking for an NFL QB coach to possibly hire. That fits the dad’s comment. The guy did not quickly jump on LSU band wagon like most media have with USC. He did mention lifestyles and that LSU was a place the family liked out of HS. Still like all of us, he thought with what LR has already proven and done for CW it should be a no brainer

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January 21, 2022 4:31 pm
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Has Brian Kelly actually built nfl quality Qb’s. This is just drama waiting to happen, if the kid doesn’t go to USC it goes to show how dumb he and his dad are. Ball family II

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January 21, 2022 5:17 pm
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Yeah….
Brady Quinn and Jimmy Clausen both 5* out of High School

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January 21, 2022 6:52 pm
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Kelly was at ND 2010-2021. Quinn left ND after 2006 season and Claussen left after the 09 season. If I was looking for a guy to get me ready for the NFL I would pick LR over BK .

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January 21, 2022 4:19 pm
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I like the Dye pickup and he makes the running back position stronger . But he wasn’t the #1 guy at Oregon until Verdell got injured. When he stepped into the lead role he delivered, so his absence will be felt by the Ducks. But Verdell is coming back and a kid by name of Cardwell is expected to be a true stud. Oregon’s running game may be weakened a bit, but it isn’t a weak spot. IMHO

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January 21, 2022 1:08 pm

I have to post it. Guess how hired Tim Drevno as his OL coach? You got it, Chocolate Chip Kelly. Maybe he will do SC an even greater favor and hire Clancy as his DC. That is really funny.

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January 21, 2022 1:16 pm
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We even get Christmas gifts from ucla. I love that Drevno is now the O line coach at ucla.

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January 21, 2022 1:07 pm
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LR is amazing. He and his staff clearly did not like the remaining RBs. Very clear our two RBs are going to be Dye and Jones and the true frosh from Mater Dei. The remaining RBs (I think it is Barlow the TCU transfer and Campbell a true frosh from Texas) will never see the field. We now need to see some LBs, OL and DL. As to QB, I will leave that up to LR. I really do not care of Caleb comes or not. So far, LR has brought in two of the best returning RBs in the… Read more »

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January 21, 2022 3:51 pm
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Do you know if Travis is looking for his Masters at USC ?

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January 21, 2022 12:50 pm

Dye is now on the squad.

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January 21, 2022 1:50 pm
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JT is a much different player than what Matt Coral was. I hope Kiffen is going to be able to adjust to a stand in the pocket Qb after having Coral racking up run yardage like crazy. I do hope JT finds a home. The Curse of the Cat follows him.

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January 21, 2022 11:10 am
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We got another transfer coming today. My bet is mcCaskill.

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January 21, 2022 11:16 am
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It’s fun updating my bleacher report app and seeing the whole football staff with the ✌️ It’s letting us know another is headed our way. Riley and co bringing hope!

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January 21, 2022 11:35 am
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I’m not expecting us to struggle next year either. I don’t think we will be world beaters, but Riley is changing our roster quickly. I don’t think he has any intention of slogging through rough season while getting it going.

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January 21, 2022 1:11 pm
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Chris, I totally agree. LR is moving at light speed to completely redo this roster (which Cowherd correctly stated was a mess). The RBs, WRs, and CBs have been totally replaced. Let’s get in some LBs!

Golden Trojan
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January 21, 2022 3:52 pm
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My Count

96 (2021 scholies) – 14 (lost eligib.) – 16 (trans. out) – 7 (early NFL draft) = 59 scholies remain. 85 (schol. limit ’22) – 59 = 26 able to sign in 2022. 26 – 18 (10 trans. in + 8 HScommmits) = 8 remaining. Any more transfers out will add spots.

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January 21, 2022 5:24 pm
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Great GT keep us updated on the numbers

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January 21, 2022 4:30 am
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Did Coach Fontes die?

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January 21, 2022 8:53 am
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Your original comment sounded like a post-mortem memorial post–similar to many of the posts you and John make when a Trojan goes to the great temple of Troy in the sky. 

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January 21, 2022 9:47 am
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Yes very underrated …. remember him at Detriot. Seemed like a hell of a guy.

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January 21, 2022 7:43 am
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QB is a critical part of the team.
Would think there would be 3 to 4 to start.
Whoever comes will have a wide open situation.

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January 21, 2022 8:59 am
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I am beginning to think Greg Katz is correct. Caleb’s dad seems to showing too many behaviors to the original helicopter dad, LaVar Ball.

We move on with Miller Moss and wait for our 5-star from Lakewood in 2023.

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January 21, 2022 9:49 am
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Then why would Dart leave ? Williams would be making a big mistake not playing for HCLR

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January 20, 2022 9:23 pm

The good news is we’re getting better players through the portal every day. The bad news Caleb is holding his decision over USC like the sword of Damocles. The good news I am willing to bet LR has a backup plan. Football season is nine months away and I have already bet on season tickets, because I don’t want to take a chance on missing some positive happenings for the team. I guess it’s time to stop worrying about who might come and focus on those who are already here. Just having a real coaching staff makes me sure things… Read more »

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January 20, 2022 10:01 pm
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Miller Moss is an extremely capable, coachable QB. LR is very aware of that, as is Donte Williams who I’m sure has shared all he knows about Miller. Many who covered the team gave Moss the slight edge over Dart in practice. If Caleb doesn’t come, another transfer will, and have to compete with MM for the start.

Golden Trojan
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January 20, 2022 5:02 pm
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I watched last weeks games, first of the season, think I put the voodoo on them, not watching again till they win a couple.

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January 20, 2022 6:31 pm
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Tough road victory at Colorado as Trojans win 61-58. Trojan defense played better than they have in the last 4 games. Offensively, it looks like several guys (Drew and Max) are passing up good shots to make an extra pass; not sure if they have lost their confidence but something is wrong. Ethan Anderson who was outstanding as a freshman has just not been the same player; his defense is still good but his outside shot is sporadic and when he is the lane he seems to be out of control. I think the AE sees the situation and has… Read more »

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January 20, 2022 6:44 pm
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I wondered what had happened to them.   :wpds_wink: 

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January 20, 2022 4:05 pm
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Have to like the way he finishes runs, right at them.

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January 20, 2022 1:39 pm

FYI: To Clarify some misunderstanding of NCAA Transfer Portal

From 247 Sports:

While a player entering their name in the transfer portal means they intend to explore their options, it does not necessarily mean they will leave. A player is free to withdraw his name at any time. “However, schools are under no obligation to keep a player on scholarship once they enter the portal”.

My emphasis** This basically voids the four year scholarships obligation!

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January 20, 2022 2:11 pm
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Alfa, That is what I thought. LR is cleaning out the roster. The one group that needs a lot of help in the LBs. I thought they were just awful last year. If this works, it is possible that SC will have basically a new 2 deep next year. Really amazing.

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January 20, 2022 2:15 pm
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The player is saying I am rejecting your scholarship and will look for one elsewhere. Why should the school take them back? It might be nice if the school could offer a nonathletic scholarship if the player is not able to find another team.

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January 20, 2022 1:37 pm

Our RB room is now full. That was an area of need once the year ended. Riley getting us right again, who’s next?

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January 20, 2022 12:40 pm
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I’d take that right now without hesitation.

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January 20, 2022 12:07 pm
  • When you view everything, LR’s hiring has been an enormous boost in USC’s brand in the National discussion…there’s more to come and it will be positive. Let’s take another view, from the Academic side it has piqued the future students interest as well. Everyone wants to be associated with WINNERS !!! We win they will come, as will the celebrities. LR will create the same magnetism as did Pete Carroll. In every aspect Winning Trojan Football will enhance the University in multiple ways…it just will.
  • Fight On and Keep the Faith !
  • To Ricky Caruso, thanks Pal
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January 20, 2022 12:00 pm

Another commit coming soon, per official USC football twitter. https://mobile.twitter.com/USC_FB/status/1484247332971446273?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

im excited to see who Riley brings in. Dye? LB from Louisiana? Finally CW?

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January 20, 2022 11:02 am

75,000 USC hoodies isn’t such a stretch. I have never been shy about wearing Trojan gear, I used to hear it in church after a loss, because I wore my Trojan shirt, but I would simply answer, ” have you ever prayed for something you didn’t get?” Anyway whatever happens, LR is generating very much anticipation. At least as much as I have seen in a very long time. I expect they are greasing the wheels on the bandwagon even as I type.

Golden Trojan
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January 20, 2022 10:39 am

I don’t listen to Colin. What did he mean by that last part, “Tread very lightly (when dealing with great coaches)”?

volunteerTrojan
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January 20, 2022 11:03 am
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Spot on, Allen.

Golden Trojan
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January 20, 2022 12:12 pm
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Totally fair, LR would be performing a miracle if he turns SC around in a year. If he is consistently winning the conference and getting to the playoffs that will be great. A dynasty like Saban is a pretty high bar. It is amazing the heat Alabama fans were giving Saban just cause he doesn’t win a NC EVERY year!

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January 21, 2022 10:00 am
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That garbage SEC playoff bias and the NCAA leaving that program alone is why Saban created a dynasty. Pete would had done things never imagined if NCAA treated SC like a SEC team. And of course, he would not had booted Chow and brought in the boy blunders. Goat Kiffy and Suckisian F ed over this program since 2005. Leaving us stupid Helton to boot.
So glad this awful decade of SC football is over.

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January 21, 2022 10:59 am
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It would have been really something if PC had stayed with USC when Saban started to develop the Bama program. i think we can all visualize the competition between the two had it happened. But you could tell at the end of the 8th season, PC was getting bored, It didn’t help Sanchez bolted for the Jets after his junior year. PC had that next year all set for another run for a nattie and showed publically he was upset. One thing is clear, Saban losses assistant coaches every year and has still been able to keep his program top… Read more »

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January 22, 2022 1:19 pm
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I’m sure PC realizes this, but with CFB, you can recruit in all the best players you want as he did the first 5 or so years. and Saban readily admits, without recruiting the players he has, he would not be this successful. But in the NFL, you have to either lose big or have a budget 2nd to none to build a better team that wins and even then, luck has to go your way with the player’s attitudes. Yes, the NFL challenge is there for top coaches whose big ego pushes them into it. Other than a HC… Read more »

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January 20, 2022 10:56 am
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That’s a good point GT, I would think that USC has set the bar so high, that they only look at coaches who won a national title as being great. I don’t really see it that way (as far as 9 whiffs) All my life I’ve been a Trojan fan. My parents graduated from the University, so I grew up with the Trojans. We have had some disappointing coaches and ALL of our coaches experienced dry spells, but as far as complete whiffs I would only put Tolner, Hacket and The Cat as complete and utter failures. I remember being… Read more »