First Dye, Then Lloyd, Now Marks…

USCโ€™s Miller Moss, Woody Marks could form a dynamic QB-RB connection

Marks, a transfer from Mississippi State who finished as the schoolโ€™s all-time leader in receptions, was named USCโ€™s lead back Tuesday, a day after Moss received the nod at QB

Quarterback Miller Moss, left, and running back Woody Marks, right, were named the starters at their respective positions by USC head coach Lincoln Riley this week. (Photos by The Associated Press and Keith Birmingham, Pasadena Star-News/SCNG)
QB Miller Moss and RB Woody Marks were named the starters at their respective positions by USC HC Lincoln Riley this week. (Photos by The AP and Keith Birmingham, Pasadena Star-News/SCNG)

Luca Evans (OC Register)ย  —ย  LOS ANGELES โ€” In the winter, when Mississippi State transfer running back Woody Marks (5-10, 208) and mother Tameka first visited USC, they made a point to speak with every โ€“ everyย โ€“ coach on staff. Not just a position coach. Top to bottom.

Marks had stuck it out for four years as a Bulldog amid three different head coaches, and after deciding to hit the portal after new head coach Jeff Lebby was hired, he was in search of some stability, Tameka remembered. They felt it, at USC. But even after Marks committed on Dec. 20, he and his mother still felt ever-so-slightly skeptical, USC entering Decemberโ€™s Holiday Bowl coming off a 7-5 regular season.

And thenย they watched Miller Moss light up Louisville.

โ€œFor him to be out there, first time starting โ€ฆ oh, it gonโ€™ be real nice,โ€ Tameka told the Southern California News Group, back in the winter. โ€œWe confident. We love it. That sealed the deal.โ€

Half a year later, Moss and Marks have beenย officially tabbed as USCโ€™s starting quarterback-running back duo entering the Big Ten, head coach Lincoln Riley telling reporters on Tuesday that Moss was โ€œthe guy we feel like gives this team the best chance to winโ€ at quarterback and that Marks had โ€œasserted himself as the starterโ€ in the running back room. Itโ€™s an intriguing combination: Marks ended his time at Mississippi Stateย as the schoolโ€™s all-time receptions leader, a consistent threat out of the backfield, seemingly fodder for creative utilization in Lincoln Rileyโ€™s offense.

โ€œJust his overall knowledge of the game, and obviously his talent, really stood out,โ€ Moss said of Marks. โ€œAnd thatโ€™s a really good room, but heโ€™s the veteran in that room. And I think heโ€™s the clear guy there.โ€

Moss, for his part, has been theย clear guyย at quarterback since that Holiday Bowl performance, even after Riley brought in UNLV transfer Jayden Maiava in the spring. But as Moss himself said Tuesday that Maiava had pushed him in fall camp, Riley asserted the competition for USCโ€™s QB1 spot had been close, saying he would feel โ€œextremely comfortableโ€ inserting Maiava if Moss missed any time.

โ€œIโ€™d play anybody with him, the way he practiced and competed,โ€ Riley said of Maiava. โ€œHeโ€™s a talented kid. Heโ€™s got a bright future here. No doubt about that.โ€

On Monday, though, Riley called Moss into his office after team meetings and delivered the news: he was USCโ€™s starter. It was the culmination of a four-year journey, a local kid stubbornly fighting for his shot in the room as other names came and went with the autumn leaves, laughing Tuesday he was โ€œextremely happyโ€ he had stuck around.

But there was no stopping to smell any roses. Moss went straight to walk-throughs on Monday, and largely shrugged off any notion that earning the job was cause for celebration.

โ€œIt means a tremendous amount,โ€ Moss said. โ€œItโ€™s a tremendous honor. But at the end of the day, I think itโ€™s more about what you do with it than just being named the starter.โ€

Heโ€™ll have a unique weapon by his side in the backfield in veteran Marks, who had a similarly muted reaction Tuesday to a question over his RB1 designation. Riley, too, said sophomore running back Quinten Joyner was โ€œfirmly in the mixโ€ as Marksโ€™ backup and would โ€œcertainly get an opportunity to play a bunch,โ€ with Marks emphasizing Joynerโ€™s progression in pass protection was โ€œphenomenal.โ€

But Rileyโ€™s affirmation Tuesday made clear, ultimately, that Marks will have plenty of chances come Week 1 to drive USCโ€™s offense with the quarterback who โ€“ in one form โ€“ helped bring him to USC.

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parcelman007
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August 22, 2024 10:53 am

If Pete Carroll wants to come to SC, the trojans would be crazy not to take advantage of the opportunity. He doesn’t have to coach but I would allow him to be associated with the football program. It would be especially good if he were allowed to recruit especially when the recruits come here on their visits.Create a position for him.

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August 22, 2024 8:02 pm
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If I were Jen Cohen, I would wait and see what this coaching staff and team accomplishes this season before I even suggest anything.

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August 22, 2024 9:55 am

Hard to believe the season starts in a little over a week.

Excited to see how our first season in the Big 10 goes.

I think our defense with D’Anton Lynn will be much better than it was last season.

The offense with Miller Moss and our deep receiving corp should be able to put points.

I think if it all goes well we’re looking at 10-2 for sure.

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August 21, 2024 7:56 pm

Reports from LSU camp……their defensive DE’s are good, interior D line is average, LB’s are good to excellent, one is an AA, DB’s good but have not worked together much.
OL excellent but the center is inexperienced, RB’s average, Receivers good, QB good but sometimes throws interceptions.
Special teams…average
No appreciable injuries thus far.
Shocking news….they plan to smash the ball until the safeties come up. Sarcasm on my part.
Since they practice in a climate similar to South Florida, LV indoors ought to be refreshing for them.
Hopefully they get some shakes during the nearly 6 hour flight time.

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August 21, 2024 9:22 pm
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No idea……..yet…….because.in fall camp everybody is an AA and I can’t watch practice from Indy. The local observers are understandably full of positive comments to protect their access so it’s rare to hear anything really useful. I love your blog because John and you are so honest. Right now if I had to choose……because of that LSU OL…..it’s got to be LSU…….but…….in a relatively close game….maybe 10 to 14 points. As you know, things change every day…..what if LSU loses Guillory…..big trouble for them.

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August 22, 2024 8:00 am
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I am with you. I have NO idea who is going to win this game. I do think that it will be a really great game. I have one thing that I expect. The last time I saw SC in person was the Cotton Bowl disaster which SHOULD have gotten Alex Grinch fired. I am very confident that SC will play better on D this time than last. I have listened to a couple of LSU commentators and they are just as confused about the team as we are about SC. What I did learn was that LSU has lost… Read more ยป

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August 22, 2024 8:10 am
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I cannot believe we won’t be much improved in both lines this season. The DL because of better coaching from the DC and the rest of his crew. Also much better scheme. The OL will be much better because the new QB will stay within Riley’s system. They won’t be a superman magician QB trying to extend plays beyond what is reasonable for O-lineman to maintain blocks. I think LSU lost more people than we did from last season. Therefore, since LSU is not as good as they think they are and we are better than the “experts” think we… Read more ยป

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August 22, 2024 9:32 am
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I’ll go out on that limb with 10 days to kick off. Kelly challenges our DL with the run. Riley will go after their DBs. SC gets up a couple scores. Tigers forced to pass on our elite DBs and get burned. Woody runs out the 4th quarter for a comfortable win for Trojans. Suddenly USC are media darlings!

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August 21, 2024 7:38 pm

Reviewed the Florida schedule this year……you want to see a tough schedule…..they play 8 of the top 25
Wow!

Miami
Samford
Texas A&M
Miss St
UCF
Tenn
Kentucky
Georgia
Texas
LSU
Ole Miss
Florida St

That closing 5 would be enough to just call it a year in October.

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August 21, 2024 9:20 pm
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Allen he is at the top of the hot seat list right now and play hasn’t started.

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August 21, 2024 9:25 pm
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If he went 5-7 with that schedule he ought to ask for a raise.

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August 22, 2024 6:52 am
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Napier is probably regretting playing both in state/ nonconference rivals in the same season. Maybe he should have tried to get out of them! Hah! ๏ปฟ๐Ÿ˜„๏ปฟ๏ปฟ๐Ÿ˜‰๏ปฟ

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August 21, 2024 3:10 pm
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USC has size and experience but lack depth. For instance, USC has 14 OL, Ohio St has 17, USC has 4 RBs, Ohio St has 7. USC should start well but may get pretty worn down by the time ND comes to town. Gerry DiNardo of Big10 Network liked what he saw of USC’s OL. So who knows what we will see in 11 days.

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August 21, 2024 5:19 pm
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Hey, just looking for positive press, especially ex coaches where ever I can. Got to have some hope Coach Henson is doing his job. The national beat down by the press is real old. These Trojans better prove people wrong.

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I know the O Line is a cause for concern. Murphy is the weakest link, and depth is unproven. With this schedule,4-6 are a real possibility. But the more I listen to Mandel, the more I think he is channeling Paul Finebaum, who insists USC needs to fire Riley now!
And he is dead wrong about our receiver room- We are loaded there. I value the opinion of Joel Klatt a lot more than Mandel.

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August 21, 2024 7:15 pm
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I value Klatt because he played the game, and unlike Colin Cowherd, he is not a USC homer, far from it. Mandel may be a great writer, but when he implies that losing Mario Williams means we have trouble at receiver, I just think that is flat out wrong. And don’t misunderstand me. I am not comparing Mandel to Finebaum, who is a hack journalist that will regurgitate any garbage that Disney tells him to.

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I don’t doubt Mandel is well respected in the industry. He has a wealth of experience. But my critique of him seems to have hit a nerve. And I am not comparing him to Finebaum, he is an SEC clown. Mandel made some valid points, but I believe he is wrong about our receiver group. In reality, Klatt could be right that we have a significantly better defense and great QB play. Also, I wasn’t implying you were calling Klatt an SC homer, only stating that I felt it was clear he isn’t. And Mandel could be right that we… Read more ยป

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I really admire Stu Mandel. I hope he is wrong on this one, but all Trojan fans need to realize that he may be correct. If the front 7 on D and the OL play can play competently, I think he will be proved wrong. I have made it clear that I am optimistic about this season, but given all the unknowns, I still remain an optimistic 8-4 and think we stand a good chance of 10-2 if we get lucky on injuries.

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SC will make the playoffs in 2024. Their defense will be solid.You don’t bring in the great coaches and outstanding players that they have brought in on that side of the LOS and not improve drastically. Offensively, LR teams are always great no matter who is at QB. Everyone of his offenses from 2015 has been nationally rated. Going back even further, his 2014 offense at East Carolina was rated 5th in the nation in yards gained and 3rd in passing yards gained while averaging 36 points a game.. They don’t have a Caleb Williams but the offense will have… Read more ยป

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We know PC’s style very well. It was partly refined while coaching here at USC in the 2000s. He brought fun to the program, fun to CFB and to himself. Maybe he doesn’t do cartwheels anymore in showing his exuberance but it’s what’s in his head that counts. Him coming back to USC, as a teacher, gives us ammunition to wonder about possibilities. Maybe not in a football classroom now, but you never know what tomorrrow brings. Would we love to hear him being an advisor to LR? You look at all the coaching greats when in their middle 70s… Read more ยป

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CPC flying all the way to LA to teach a class? This sounds like someone sending a silent message to LR…..after all….he does not get hired to teach unless the top level is OK with it. Joe Paterno won the BIG title at the age of 83…….so……it’s possible. Pete loves to coach and might be willing to accept a reduction in compensation to help get rid of LR. . What is he teaching…..a class titled…..how to take over a football program from a coach from Oklahoma and turn it around in one year…..LOL. Still hoping for 10-2 this year and… Read more ยป

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Yes, Pete did not want to leave. I watched every one of his games and could not understand why he did not order John Schneider to take a QB with the pick they used on Weatherspoon from Illinois. I wonder how he would do with the portal?

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August 21, 2024 9:42 am
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Yes Allen, what you say here is pretty much covers the situation. As far as LR is concerned, what we have witnessed so far, he wonโ€™t make changes unless he is forced to as in the firing of Alex Grinch. He is stubborn in his beliefs and ways. And that includes thinking he can just outscore the opposition each game. As for his recruiting so far, he has to be troubled by it but yet too proud to admit any failure.

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August 21, 2024 10:32 am
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Such a wide range of topics he could talk on. From general motivation, to sports management, to football specific issues. If anyone gets wind of the course specifics shout it out here.

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August 21, 2024 6:19 am
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Crawford sure went the safe path predicting losses to the bigger brand teams who have done well lately. I’m pretty sure the Trojans will beat at least 1 or 2 of those teams. The teams we’ll most likely beat from the group are Washington and ND. And it wouldn’t surprise me if we beat LSU.

There, I’m moving away from the safety of the trunk and out on a limb.

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August 21, 2024 7:13 am

Always love a little sunshine!!

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August 22, 2024 7:26 am
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Happy to provide some. I think we will lose 3 or 4, but haven’t settled on which ones yet.

There’s a chance I may get up to the Michigan game, so that would be a great one to win.

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August 21, 2024 9:10 am
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These statistics are interesting, but they are only partially an indicator of the future. Clearly the past five years for USC hasn’t been rosy. The caveat is that the wins USC amassed were with handicaps. For three of the past five seasons USC played with their brains tied behind their backs; clueless coaches on both sides of the ball. The other two USC played without a defense. While I am just making excuses here, I am also not looking at real statistics such as close losses and who beat whom. Finally if USC is the real USC we’ve been waiting… Read more ยป

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August 21, 2024 11:36 am
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Like I keep saying, USC is going surprise a LOT of people this season.

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August 22, 2024 7:29 am
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Nice, thanks for the research. Of the 5, LSU, Mich and UW are all facing pretty significant player and/or coach turnover, so there’s hope in matching them.

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August 22, 2024 10:48 am
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Jim Harbaugh is a great coach who won big every he has ever been. He won a NC in college and he should have won a super bowl in the pros.Michigan will not overcome losing Harbaugh. They’ll be good but not nearly as good as last year.

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August 22, 2024 5:25 pm
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I definitely think that they can win and would not be surprised if they did but generally I agree…..beating Michigan in their house is going to be tough.

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August 23, 2024 10:38 am
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The Michigan game is hard to predict.You just don’t know how much improvement the SC defense will see this year without Grinch and Michigan has a lot of new ooaches and a lot of new players. This is not the same team that won the NC last year,

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August 23, 2024 11:51 am
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I agree that LR needs time to rebuild especially after his cataclysmic mistake with Grinch that put the program back about 2 years.But I do think that he is the man to bring this program back to the promise land.
As far as the Michigan game, I do give SC a real good chance to win that game. My views may change after game 2. Maybe I’m just a sunshine pumper as opposed to a realist

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Two things that will be interesting to watch: 1) Texas plays at Michigan in Week 2 and 2) Michigan’s current Head Coach is being investigated for recruiting violations and the NCAA is talking suspension for a couple of games this season and Michigan is considering a self-imposed suspension similar to last year when Harbaugh missed a couple of games.

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