Can USC Protect Miller Moss?

Is Miller Moss taking too many hits? Lincoln Riley isn’t too concerned, for now…

USC quarterback Miller Moss passes during a win over Wisconsin on Saturday.

USC QB Miller Moss passes against WIS on Sept. 28. The Trojans won 38-21, but have struggled to protect Miller this season. (Mark J. Terrill / AP)

Ryan Kartje (LA Times)  —  Miller Moss could see, as he scanned the scene on a critical red zone third down last Saturday, that a big hit was probably in his future. It was simple math. USC had an extra receiver out wide. Wisconsin had six in the box. Somebody was going to run free. And he would probably pay the price.

The USC quarterback checked with his center, Jonah Monheim, where protection would slide. That way he’d know where the free runner was coming from. But when he snapped the ball, three Badger blitzers broke loose.

Somehow, Moss still managed to sling a pass off his back foot before all three came crashing down on him. And somehow, his pass miraculously found wideout Duce Robinson in traffic for the go-ahead score.

“Show me a tough team,” coach Lincoln Riley said after the game, “and I’ll show you a tough quarterback.”

But as the hits pile up, so do the questions about how USC plans to protect Moss going forward. A trip to face a Minnesota pass defense that has eight interceptions and yielded fewer than 97 yards per game this season probably won’t make that task any easier, as Moss finds himself with fewer windows to throw into.

Nor will a looming matchup next week with Penn State’s fearsome front.

Riley would, of course, prefer his starting quarterback stay upright. But he’s not all that concerned yet about the hits Moss is already accumulating.

“You’d love to leave any game with a quarterback not taking any hits, but that’s not always reality,” Riley said this week. “That’s part of playing the position. We’re not trying to advocate for it, but certainly you can’t always completely avoid it.

“Obviously, it’s something we want to continue to clean up, but everybody’s involved in it.”

Wisconsin defensive lineman Ben Barten (68) recovers a fumble after badgers safety Austin Brown.

WIS DL Ben Barten (68) recovers a fumble after Badgers safety Austin Brown knocks down USC QB Miller Moss in the first half on Sept. 28. (Gina Ferazzi / LAT)

Better protection might help mitigate it, at least. On a per-game basis, USC’s quarterback has been under duress more than any other Big Ten passer. He’s been sacked or hit, on average, 5.5 times per game (22 total) and under pressure on 12.25 dropbacks (49 total). Both rates rank highest in the conference, according to Pro Football Focus.

His blindside has been especially vulnerable. Redshirt freshman Elijah Paige has allowed the second most pressures of any Big Ten lineman, despite only playing in 3½ games as USC’s left tackle.

Riley acknowledged the “growing pains” his left tackle is going through. But he expressed confidence that Paige would be better going forward.

“It’s just going to be part of the kid’s climb,” Riley said of Paige. “The key is for him — he can’t let any adversity he’s faced, he can’t let it defeat him, he can’t let it discourage him. He’s just got to continue to learn and grow and bank those reps and bank those experiences and keep going. He does that, he’s going to be a phenomenal player. And he’s given me no reason to think he’s going to do anything but that.”

It doesn’t get much easier from here, with the likes of Nebraska, Penn State, Washington and Notre Dame, all top-25 pass rushes, still ahead.

Overall inexperience on the offensive line has been a big reason for much of the abuse Miller has been taking. In addition to blindside protector Paige, USC is rotating redshirt freshman Amos Talalele and sophomore Alani Noa at right guard.

But Minnesota has struggled, for the most part, to turn pressure into sacks this season. The Gophers have averaged 1.8 sacks per game through five games, good for 14th in the Big Ten.

USC, in spite of its progress on the defensive end, is one of the few in the conference who have been less efficient at racking up sacks, with just five in four games this season. But defensive coordinator D’Anton Lynn, whose defense at UCLA totaled 43 sacks last season, said he’s still seen his front affecting the quarterback in other ways.

“It doesn’t have to be just sacks,” Lynn said. “It can be taking him off of his spot, compressing the pocket. So it’s something we need to get better at. But I think we’re going in the right direction.”

Being without linebacker Eric Gentry, who didn’t practice this week because of an undisclosed injury, would be a blow to those efforts. Gentry is the only USC defender with multiple sacks and ranks second on the team in pressures, with six in just 24 pass-rush snaps, per PFF.

There should be more opportunities to get that pass rush going against the Gophers, who throw a bit more than USC’s previous two Big Ten opponents. New Minnesota quarterback Max Brosmer has been efficient in five starts, but the Gophers haven’t done much to create big plays with his arm this season.

“The ball is definitely going to be in the air some,” Riley said. “This guy, he’s a really good quarterback. He’s smart. Decisive with the football. You can see he’s got a great feel for what they’re doing offensively. And you can tell, like, it really fits him. He just seems very comfortable. I think the obvious thing for us is we’ve got to do things to make him uncomfortable.”

latimes.com

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parcelman007
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October 5, 2024 12:22 pm

A lot of these guys who commit and then enter the transfer portal….it’s better to just let them go. They are mercenaries. They’re playing for the money. We should want players who want to be part of the USC culture and players like the old 1950’s NFL players who played for the love of the game. Players like Bear Alexander will play hard when they are happy and then be missing in action when they are not happy.

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October 5, 2024 3:43 am

I heard that after the Wisconsin Games, some SC players were saying “those guys were better than we thought”. That kind of overconfidence is going to get them beat.

volunteerTrojan
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October 4, 2024 9:32 pm

Anyone know what services stream the B1G network for the game tomorrow?

Jamaica
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October 5, 2024 1:18 am

It’s channel 610 on DirecTV/streaming.

volunteerTrojan
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October 5, 2024 6:12 am
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Thanks. A no go for me then. First game of the season I won’t have access to.

Steveg
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October 5, 2024 6:51 am

How about Fubo, take the free one week.

Jamaica
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October 5, 2024 1:21 am
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Michigan St. was guilty of one tackler take down the ball carrier while others stood & watched. Like our defense last year.

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October 5, 2024 6:53 am
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They reminded me of our defense last season also. Not very good.

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October 5, 2024 1:26 am
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In a Country town area like Eugene, there’s nothing much else to do but go to the football games.

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October 4, 2024 2:21 pm

The O Line play has to get better or Miller Moss won’t survive.

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October 4, 2024 1:19 pm

I still like the idea of running back tandem power runs. Maybe the I formation or direct snap to a sweeping running back. Any way you look at it, the line has got to find a way to improve. The line coach is either a genius or another Grinch. Riley might not make it through another friendship coaching debacle.
Minnesota was one bad call away from beating Michigan, so there’s no room for underestimating their chances.

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October 4, 2024 3:56 pm
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I never took LR very serious in his interviews and post game pressers because it was always some minimizing , saying there’s no problem, we got this. Ok PR speak.I get it. Based on our Grinch experience, whereas we were constantly discussed nationally, having a bottom defensive program, I listen now. When the obvious on field issues, as AW has thrown here, conflict with LR’s talking points, it’s a concern. It means a slow painful process with national viewpoint implications. Did LR finally dump friend Grinch and course correct with an advanced coaching hire.. damn right ! But it took… Read more »

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October 4, 2024 4:21 pm
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When Paige went out at the half of the Michigan game, they shuffled the OL and they became productive. Why not go with that? Paige is not just the 2nd worse lineman on the team, he is the 2nd worse in the conference! Why is he out there?

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October 4, 2024 12:17 pm

No Big 10 QB has been under more pressure than MM. Paige is the second worst lineman in the Big 10. LR says Paige is a work in progress and will get better if he keeps working. Thank you Captain Obvious. LR is not going to say anything of substance to the press. For instance, he’s not going to say something like, Paige has to get it together in the 1st half Saturday or we will go with the line we had in the second half of Michigan and Paige is benched. Paige is not getting it done. Do LR… Read more »

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October 4, 2024 9:16 am

It’s apparent LR seems to accept his QBs are going to get ruffed up some staying in the pocket looking for the right open reciever. I know we all fear what happened under Helton’s non-guidance the QBs were not just ruffed up but taken/helped off the field. Moss has shown he would be too valuable to be lost and limiting any hope for a playoff berth. LR has to be aware of the concern we and the press has but he more or less blows it off saying it’s a work in progress to get fixed. Granted we are dealing… Read more »

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October 4, 2024 11:47 am
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What is an air raid attitude. Riley runs as much as he possibly can. Please review his record going back before Okalhoma even. With the line USC has what is he going to say that won’t be detrimental to the culture they have been building at USC football. He knows his line is weak, he has rolled the QB out, they use play action, and RPO. What else do you want him to do? We all cringe when we see the QB get manhandled or crushed, but conversely we rejoice with it happens to the other side. It’s the game.

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October 4, 2024 12:25 pm
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The C.Mike Leach air raid pass and pass some more. C.Leach passed 90% and ran 10%. Both of these guys are under the C.Leach air raid tree. C.G.Harrell, passed 80%, ran 20%. C.LR pass 60%, run 40%. I like C.LR air raid the best. C.June Jones Run and Shoot air raid, 95% pass, 5% run. The problem with air raid is zone blocking on run plays, it’s finesse FB. If C.LR on run plays have his OL power, drive block (pan cake) like Michigan, Stanford, UGA, USC could make the final 4 of the CFP. The past champs (Michigan, UGA,… Read more »

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October 4, 2024 1:19 pm
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When LR spreads out the receivers including the TE when in the game, with or without a RB blocker, the edge is inviting blitzing especially when there are 4 D-linemen on the other side. You can’t ask a young left defensive tackle to block what’s in front of him and an edge blitzer both. The defense will likely go zone to handle the spread hoping the front 5 or 6 will get to the QB in time. These plays are when I’ve seen Moss get hit and sometimes hit hard. How many more hits can Moss’ body take before it… Read more »

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October 4, 2024 3:34 pm
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Bruddah Jamaica, very good points. My post was explaining the various Air Raid O. And that, I like C.LR version of all the AR system out there. I believe an AR O can win a NC, but it has to have a power run dsattack. Yeah, USC OL, and the LT spot is dubious at times. The Wisconsin game when Moss rolled out and even ran good things happened to C.LR O. The key to me is how to get a power run game going. The passing game is doing well. Got to limit TO (IT and fumbles) and key… Read more »

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October 5, 2024 3:38 am
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When LR was at Oklahoma, he ran 55% of the time and passed 45%. Check it out. And he still had 2 Heisman trophy QB’s and a third QB that finished 2nd in the Heisman trophy running.
He needs to get back to that offense but first he needs to get a great O-Line coach. When LR wants to go out and get a great coach, he can. Trouble is, he doesn’t like to fire people even when they are not doing the job.

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Bruddah Parcelman, C.LR had great success at OU because he had one of the top OL units in nation. He recruited well in Texas for those Big Boys. Thanxs for the info, did not know he ran more vs passing, wow.

Yeah, C.LR must get those Big and talented OL like his OU teams. I prefer his P/R ratio at USC, 60/40. That’s a nice balance AR O… Cheers.