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Whicker: USC’s Life of Riley might not come sooner

With all the celebration over Lincoln Riley’s hire, the Trojans won’t gain the physicality they need overnight

Mark Whicker (OC Register)  —  Like all coaches, Lincoln Riley will need some adjustments.

His family has dogs named Boomer and Sooner, named when it seemed Riley was an Oklahoma lifer. Reportedly the new names under consideration are Folt and Bohn.

And, on some L.A. mornings, it will sometimes take Riley 38 or more minutes to go eight miles. That was not a problem in his previous hometowns, none of which were more populous than Lubbock, Texas. (254,000).

Then there’s football. On Saturday, when he watches Donte Williams coach his final lame-duck game at Cal, Riley will learn that his Mecca Project might not be accomplished in a fingersnap.

The Trojans must win to go 5-7. If anything can motivate the underclassmen, it should be Riley’s glare from upstairs, especially since real players from elsewhere are gathering outside his door like a line for the next great cellphone.

Riley might feel like throwing about 30 of the remaining Trojans through the transfer portal without opening the door first. Bad penalties and lukewarm effort are not tolerated in his world.

By now, Riley realizes he will need a massive influx of big folks.

Daniel Jeremiah, former scout and current Chargers’ radio analyst, shares the “Moving The Sticks” podcast with Bucky Brooks, another ex-scout. Earlier this year, Jeremiah talked of meeting a colleague who was on the Coliseum sideline before a game.

“I looked at USC and I couldn’t tell who the defensive linemen were,” the scout said.

Oklahoma had five first-round picks when Riley was the head coach. All but linebacker Kenneth Murray (Chargers) were quarterbacks and receivers. However, Oklahoma had four offensive linemen drafted in 2019 between Rounds 2 and 4. Bobby Evans of the Rams was one of those.

Defense never was Oklahoma’s meal ticket, but the 2019 team ranked 29th nationally in points-against. Riley is bringing defensive coordinator Alex Grinch, who was Washington State’s defensive boss when Mike Leach was there and knows how to breed physical defense while practicing against the daily ballet.

It will help that Riley is stomping into a Pac-12 that has devolved into tapioca. Washington is changing coaches, Arizona State is being investigated, and Cal, Stanford, Colorado and Arizona are years behind.

Riley will not harvest the talent that greeted him at Oklahoma, when he came as offensive coordinator in 2015 and took over in 2017. If Ohio State’s Ryan Day “was born on third base and thought he hit a triple,” as Michigan’s Jim Harbaugh snarked Saturday, Riley was bearing down on an empty net in a shootout. Baker Mayfield and Kyler Murray were both transfer quarterbacks.

But they became Heisman winners with Riley, who recruited another potential one in Caleb Williams. His offenses have topped 500 yards in 55 games at Oklahoma. Three times, OU averaged more than eight yards per snap.

East Carolina averaged 533 yards in Riley’s final year as its coordinator. In consecutive years, they scored 55 and 70 on North Carolina.

The quarterback was Shane Carden, who coaches high school football in Idaho and is a Newport Beach native. He remembers the Pete Carroll days at the Coliseum and fully expects a sequel.

“There’s no point in which he thinks he’s out of a ballgame,” Carden said. “We thought we could score from every point on the field. He was always preparing for this. He took notes at every meeting, all the time I was there.

“But he didn’t just pound football into us. He kept it light, told us jokes, made sure we knew there were other things to life. I was struck by how short his play sheet was. If you didn’t feel comfortable with something, he didn’t have such an ego that he made you run it.”

Carden also said Riley believes in firm running. His first five offenses at OU ranked from 11th to 27th in rushing nationally.

“There are all kinds of Air Raids,” Carden said. “He really wants a tough, physical football team.”

OU fans were taken aback, of course. One player groused that Riley also used to tell the Sooners they were in the Mecca of football, and an Amish restaurant arranged its signboard to read, “Our Cheese Won’t Let You Down, Unlike Lincoln Riley.”

In truth, there is no clean break, and who are we kidding? Players change high schools, back off commitments and enter the portal at their whim. Coaches find out on Twitter..

In fact, there was one internet rumor that maintained USC was buying both of Riley’s houses in Norman. A local Realtor shot that down, but one surmises the deal was good enough for Riley to handle the L.A. delays.

After all, he gave up being a Sooner.

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HOF19
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December 2, 2021 8:20 pm

Off topic >>> How many times has there been 2 Conference Championship teams coming out of the same State in the same College Football season ? (Like Utah and Utah State might be able to accomplish this weekend ).

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December 3, 2021 8:00 am
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GO AZTECS! BEAT THE AGGIES!

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December 3, 2021 8:03 am
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I don’t like the Utes chances tonight either. If Utah wins tonight Oregon was seriously over rated and Utah seriously under rated.

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December 3, 2021 8:47 am
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We got a rematch just 2 weeks after a blow out. Oregon is probably not that bad and will be looking to avenge. Utah players may be a little over confident. Could be a close one. If I was still in the contest I would go with the Ducks. But I too would like to see Utah win it.

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December 2, 2021 7:12 pm

Did the OU DB coach who is still on OU payroll and talked to Domani break any ncaa rules? Yes it sounds odd for him to do that but is there a rule that you cannot recruit for one school while employed by another? Has it been addressed?

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December 3, 2021 6:25 am
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Something that is not clear is….who called who.
Domani has listed his two finalists as Alabama or USC.

Coach Manning was recruiting for OU, during the conversation how it went off tracks is only according to Domani Jackson ?

So…just how did USC get into the conversation ? And by which party ?
What was asked ? What was said ?

Coach Manning is still at OU (for now) Jackson hasn’t uttered another word about the incident!

Was the whole issue overblown by On3 who broke the story…
Is Domani Jackson seeking more attention. Lot’s of questions, few answers.

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December 2, 2021 5:54 pm

When you look at who USC has offered for 2022 and who is warm, it could be a good class. The ones that are presently cool may have a change of heart with our new coach, which encourages me to think we could have the foundation of a real good O line, not to mention RB, QB, and WR. Now lets help Tuli out and get some D line and linebackers with speed.

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December 2, 2021 6:08 pm
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Yes, H.S 2022 class could be excellent for the numbers we land. Come to the portal, that is where much could happen, both in and out. Riley is brilliant with QB’s, would be fascinating to know how he reads Dart. If Caleb Williams enters portal than that becomes telling.

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December 2, 2021 3:53 pm

I’ll be rooting for Utah tomorrow night. I’d really like to see Kyle W make it to a New Years 6 bowl. They have never played in the Rose Bowl, and I have a lot of respect for the coach and program. I like the style of play, the toughness, and what they always do with less. Plus, I’m so tired of Oregon having conference bragging rights

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December 2, 2021 1:08 pm

Riley gets Raleek today. First 5Star in the bag. Top 15 or better class is coming!

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December 2, 2021 4:45 pm
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This is like Christmas every day with Riley working like a bunch of elves trying to fill all our stockings with 4 and 5 star players. Ho Ho Ho

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December 2, 2021 11:52 am

Lincoln Riley record against Pac 12 ?

1-0

BEAT UCLA 48-14 2019 😎

Surely the chipster welcomes Riley to the Southland

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December 2, 2021 11:52 am

So who put the gun to Fox sports head to make them telcast the Cal-SC game ? ……If you could bet on the Over/Under on tv ratings for a game I would absolutely bet the under for that game .In my neighborhood Midnight will happen before the halfway point of the 2nd Quarter.If it is an overtime game you are talking 3 to 3:30AM !!!!!

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December 2, 2021 11:42 am
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Jackson might be part of a huge MD class headed our way- Raleek, Bailey, TMac, CJ Williams are now all in the mix again. Crazy that you can recruit one school and pull 5 of the top players in the country.

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December 2, 2021 12:13 pm
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I barely care about the game, it means nothing. Also, for any current player who wants to go, they should. It will be different here, there will be changes. Donte got elevated in our hearts and minds because he was the only good thing going. I wish him the best, but not worried about him leaving or taking anyone with him. Riley certainly isn’t, and that’s good enough for me.

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December 2, 2021 9:31 am
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I would not be surprised if the Cat commissioned a bronze plaque immortalizing Toa. It is probably in the players locker room and an miniature-sized replica of the plaque is glued to the dashboard of the Cat’s car, right next to his plastic Jesus.

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December 2, 2021 9:44 am
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Rebuild indeed. Little idea of how the logistics work now with coaching/staff changes.
By months end USC football will look light years different than last Saturday.
Does the phrase ‘under center’ still apply? What are the odds we have an experienced
OU QB playing at USC not named Rattler?

In Pac 12 football Rebuilds turn to reloads quickly. Only Utah remains as a program
that is stable.

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December 2, 2021 10:27 am
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Not going under center. Don’t want to burst a bubble, but Riley doesn’t do that either.

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December 2, 2021 10:40 am
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Hence my joke about phrase….

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December 2, 2021 10:47 am
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My bad, It was a poor read on my part.

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December 2, 2021 12:24 pm
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Toa will be GA Southern’s next offensive line coach. 😄

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December 2, 2021 7:08 pm

He is the only one left who the Cat loved. He has to go.

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December 3, 2021 7:59 am

You laugh VT, but that could happen…. My GSU graduate daughter is beside herself with disappointment with the hiring of the CAT, because she has seen how lousy Uncle Clay is as a HC. She has observed my anguished rantings for the several years now during the many lives of Clay the Cat….

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December 3, 2021 9:38 am
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Her brief foray into Graduate School was at Florida Atlantic University, when Lane Kiffen was the coach. She is really tired of USC cast-offs.😄

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December 3, 2021 9:56 am
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As hard as it is to follow a legend, Kiffin’s ego is such that I think he will pursue the AL job when Nick the Wizard retires.

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December 3, 2021 10:08 am
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I’ve always believed that Kiffin jumped back into the SEC to position himself to be hired by Alabama once Saban retired. Why else leave a cushy gig where he could dominate due to his recruiting prowess?

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December 2, 2021 8:56 am

Riley’s dogs can be tire and biter but that’s a minor problem. Elias Ricks is in the transfer portal, but I have heard from people where his mom worked that he’s leaning to a school like Notre Dame…However that was before the coaching change. I think Riley will be inviting the team to his office soon in order to get a real finger on the pulse of the team moving forward. Weight room has got to be busier this off season.

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December 1, 2021 10:33 pm

USC Basketball looks good, and gets better and better each game. Balanced team that plays excellent D

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December 2, 2021 8:26 am
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When the team plays ‘D’ it is incredible to watch and leads to a lot of turnovers and fast break baskets.

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December 1, 2021 9:31 pm

Looks like team had meeting and Donte let everyone know he won’t be around after Saturday. Quite a few players stayed out of practice today. It’s going to be an interesting few weeks with players leaving and transferring in.

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December 1, 2021 10:45 pm
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Very surreal season. On the 2022 recruiting front it feels like we have an excellent class, yet not a single new commitment. That will change tomorrow. Amazing, between 12/15 and portal spring practice will be unreal

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December 1, 2021 11:05 pm
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It will be interesting how many total players will be on scholarship come spring, then come fall. With all the coaching moves, the portal will never have been so full. We talk about the coaching staff changes, curious how the support staff is doing, they will be swamped.

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December 1, 2021 11:40 pm
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The USC team we saw last Saturday I don’t expect to show at CAL. Like Rock said “I don’t understand players mailing it in”
One would think there would be a fire lit for many with what is to come. Still they turned to the current coaches for direction, and we see the results.

They need just look at the BB team and see Trojan Pride

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December 2, 2021 12:15 am
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Throw in a global pandemic and that’s what we got. A tsunami is building, we will see what stands and who will be ready to re build.

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December 2, 2021 12:17 am
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Is it confirmed he announced he is gone?

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December 2, 2021 12:43 am
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well said. We are seeing what real culture change looks like. Donte probably doesn’t fit .Really are there any coaches that might stay? Riley mentioned he knew some of the coaches well, not that means a job, yet he knows to evaluate. He knows his budget, and may be able to afford coaches he couldn’t at OK If OL coach doesn’t come he will give a good look at McGuire.

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December 2, 2021 7:09 am
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It’s all driven by Riley. He’s telling recruits that they should look elsewhere. I’m 100% confident we will have a top 20 class and 90% confident it will be near top 10. I also think it will only be 15ish players. We are going to get a huge transfer portal wave coming and going as well.

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December 2, 2021 1:24 pm
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With a great name like Atticus Bertrams the 2 star punter gets another star from me.

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December 2, 2021 7:10 pm
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I think we moved up to 88 and #11 in Pac12. Woohoo

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December 2, 2021 6:48 am
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To announce before the game was a brain dead move by Donte, showing that he truly is not ready to lead as a HC. I think I see the ghost of Helton hovering around Donte, and Donte is finding comfort in it. I have been a supporter but no more. I know he will come back to haunt us in recruiting, all we can do is build anew and move forward with a better product that will sell itself again like it used to.

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December 2, 2021 8:44 am
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I thought the same. Just another reflection of ‘PAST’ staff. Lead me to think about how many coaches across the country are doing something similar.

The landscape of College football is changing quickly

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December 2, 2021 3:15 pm
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It’s only rational the marginal players will likely go portal as they have to figure a number of them will wind up on the practice squad. Riley has to have said or implied if you can’t cut it on the field, you ain’t playing. We shouldn’t be worried about players leaving. The good ones will obviously stay.

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December 1, 2021 10:41 pm
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I don’t understand players mailing it in this week, unless they are seniors that have no prospect or intention of pursuing a pro career. Everybody else should be playing with their hair on fire this week to impress Riley and his guys. Even if I were planning to jump into the transfer portal after the season, I would be looking to leave the best film I can from this last game, meaningless as it is. If we can’t beat Cal on Saturday under these circumstances, it means Riley has an even bigger challenge ahead than we thought.

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December 2, 2021 5:07 pm
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We saw it happening and figured what was going on. Helton did little or nothing up to a few weeks before signup day. Instead of recruiting the better athletes who would demand more of him, he waited until the leftovers were ready to sign with anyone and here comes Helton with his USC cap on and the 3-stars jumped to him being grateful and accepting his sad-low energy leadership. It drove me mad seeing it happen year after year.

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December 2, 2021 5:43 am
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I think your comment that the underclassmen should be playing with their hair on fire to impress Riley is spot on Rock2112. If I were a player on the team and coming back next year, I’d want to make a good impression right now. It will be interesting to see what happens Saturday in Berkeley.

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December 2, 2021 11:27 am
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Rock, You wrote a great piece on “USC Football Is Dead”. You were absolutely correct, if one adds (under Helton or any coach like him). As Arledge wrote to the effect, these are not USC Trojans playing, they are Oregon State Beavers in stolen uniforms. And, that was an insult to Oregon State. They are young kids who were extremely poorly coached and are in denial on that fact and also have a totally unrealistic view of their talent and what it takes to develop as a top level football player. They are (as a group) also, as is NOW… Read more »

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December 3, 2021 1:30 pm
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Spot on RJJ! As to my declaration of the death of USC football, I somewhat retract it in one sense and stand by it in another. The Lincoln Riley hire — whether it works or not — was the appropriate response to what I articulated there (not saying any of them read it!): I said in part that USC Football was dead because I didn’t trust the current USC admin to put winning football first in the next hire. They deserved that assessment when I said it. But then, for the first time in a long time, someone associated with… Read more »