This & That — 8/13

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Golden Trojan
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All the talk from HH is the competition and improvement in the O Line. What is the feeling out there? Sounds like this unit is making big strides. I think we are in for a much improved Offense, starting with the O Line.

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I certainly haven’t seen them in action in Camp myself, but I am still concerned about the o-line and the scrimmage reinforces that. It was Sack City. I know the excuses: whistles in Camp come fast and some plays that may not have been sacks are called as sacks; our d-line looks stellar and may be one of the best in the country. But think about it: doesn’t this basically make our scrimmage a repeat of the Cotton Bowl to some extent up front? If we’re lucky, it means our d-line is maybe on par with Ohio State’s from last… Read more »

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There is an old saying that it is better to be lucky than good. And Clay Helton has been exceptionally lucky: first, he started his HC career with Sam Darnold as his QB (one of the most talented QBs in SC history). Clay then messed up that gift by starting one of the worst QBs in SC history (Browne) over one of the best (Darnold). Then, he happens to be coaching when JT Daniels is available. Without Darnold (remember, the QBs were Browne and Fink (and maybe Ricky Townes who also could not play), Clay would be lucky to be… Read more »

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With all respect TRJJ, didn’t Helton recruit Darnold and Daniels, and win the Rose Bowl and Pac 12 with a thin, inexperienced O Line? We haven’t seen Daniels play one real down of Power 5 football and you want to anoint him the greatest QB in history. We all hope you are right. All reports are the O Line is now 2 deep, steadily improving and having to go up against a very good defense in practice. Helton still has to prove himself with most of us but give him some credit for recruiting and coaching so far.

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Great statement.

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Points well taken. But I still think he got really lucky to have Sam. No one had a clue Sam was as good as he was- remember Ricky Townes was the star. Helton also recruited Max Browne. Everyone though those two were going to be great. Look how it turned out. So, I think my characterization was accurate. On JT, have you ever seen anything like this? I said he had the talent to be at that level. So far, that point is justified. But will he be Sam like or Todd like? Or simply be overwhelmed by the media… Read more »

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If JT lacks the mobility and footspeed to extend plays, part of what made Sam special, we are in for a long season. My JT Kool-Aid is still sitting in the fridge. I’m hoping after the Texas game I can start drinking it, no sooner

Helton got lucky when they fired Sark.

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Read that story yesterday. Pete Arbogast amazing guy, up till now just another volunteer at a hospital. Imagine the last words you hear come from Pete Arbogast, what a way to go out. smile

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As long as he doesn’t ask me “how do I do?” Not sure I want to hear those words without the ability to answer! But seriously, folks, that was a very touching article and he’s a very admirable guy.

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Thanks for posting. What a man.

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I was quite moved by this side of Mr. Arbogast. Wow!

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Questions about the scrimmage. Does anyone know who played center? Was there any problems with the snaps? And, did the QBs play under center or in shotgun? Or did some play under center (Sears and Fink) and others not(JT)?

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Toa was playing center. I don’t know about the rest.

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Is Chuma Edoga still out? Or did he play in the scrimmage?

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Thank you

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I heard there were lots of sacks, but I wonder how many of those were early whistles to protect the QBs???

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JT uses shotgun only and is noticeably uncomfortable if he has to step up into the pocket to pass. Sears is used to playing under center.

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Has anyone heard if Mike Scioscia is going to get fired, retire, or get promoted out of the managers job with the Angels at seasons end?

Terrific Tommy
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Only that he won’t be back for 2019.

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I heard about a week and a half ago that he was retiring at the end of the season. It was also reported that he was not asked to step down.