Latest — Helton To Stay At USC

Zach Barnett (footballscoop.com)  —  Clay Helton will be retained as the head coach at USC, sources told FootballScoop on Tuesday evening. A formal announcement is expected on Wednesday.

Helton was largely viewed as a lame duck after he was retained following a 5-7 campaign in 2018, but exceeded expectations in 2019. Playing with a true freshman, backup quarterback in Kedon Slovis under a new offense directed by offensive coordinator Graham Harrell, the Trojans went 8-4, winning five of their last six games, and remained in contention for the Pac-12 championship through the final week of the regular season.

Helton has been with the program since 2010, surviving the Lane Kiffin and Steve Sarkisian regimes to take over on an interim basis in 2015. Given the full-time job in 2016, Helton led USC to a 10-3 record, a Rose Bowl win and a No. 3 final ranking in the AP poll that season, then guided the Trojans to a Pac-12 championship in 2017. Overall, Helton is 40-21 as USC’s head coach.

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Much as the cartoon character who stammers, “Tha-thaa-that’s all folks,” so ends the interesting aspect of SC football for 2019. Guess we can all go home now.

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Hey guys — I’ve really enjoyed talking with you all here, and I am sure I will pop in from time to time. But to be honest, I don’t have the energy for another year on the merry-go-round. As recently as last night, I was really looking forward to talking about POSITIVE things with you all — about a hopeful football future, new schemes, reintroduction of discipline and competence, and fresh hope. My bad — I let Lucy pull the football on me again. USC is going to get HAMMERED next year. At best, it’s 7-5, at worst, those two… Read more »

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The main thing is the main thing I have often repeated. However, I have hoped against hope that there may be an exception. The puppeteers at SC have not changed. Until then, the only change will be in a continued downward spiral, not just in football but the entire university. I warned you about Folt. I was a USC fan long before I was an Appalachian State University alumnus (twice), so now I will go back to watching Mountaineer football. They are exciting to watch. Play great offense, and decent defense. You may not know it but the Appalachian Mountaineer… Read more »

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I got halfway through your usual inane drivel, and started nodding off. Appalachian Mountaineers?– Wow, that is toxic material

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My local TV station showing Press Conference of Greg Schiano on his hiring as Rutgers head coach …..He is making comments like “Its not IF Rutgers wins National Championship but when “.

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USC football is officially dead. I’m out.

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Graham Harrell in Houston meeting with Tom Herman.
per https://footballscoop.com/the-scoop/

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OK ………HERE IT IS !!!!!! >>>>>>>>
Mike Bohn‏Verified account @USC_mikebohn
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I am pleased to let you know Coach Helton will continue to be our head coach

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Well, now that it looks like Bohn got the biggest immediate task off his plate, by doing nothing, it looks like his next task of rooting out other athletic dept. people who helped Donna Heinel is on deck:

https://laist.com/2019/12/04/more_usc_staff_accepted_bribes_and_helped_admissions_scam_feds_say.php

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Want to stir the pot some more …….On the next Pre-game show Urban annouces right now he is not available………..BUT WILL BE AVAILABLE EXACTLY 12 MONTHS FROM NOW !

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And SC knows this and HAS known it for say 4 or 5 days .

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FOLT’N’BOT must’ve payed Bones a LOT of money to leave Cincinnati and come be the lightning rod for this outcome. It’s pretty embarrassing. Unless he’s sitting on a nice new fat bank account, he’s probably really wishing he was back over at Cincinnati basking in the glory of an excellent season.

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A USC media group just sent me an Email >>>>>> “Emergency” Team Meeting This Afternoon!! – Announcement on Clay Helton Expected (I just checked some USC Media twitter accounts the are just starting to mention something about a “Team Meeting “).

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So here we go (I guess )

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It’s going to be coach Helton stays, Clancy is gone, Baxter is gone. Too little, too late.

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Followed by Harrell is gone, Rick Neuheisal is Harrell’s replacement, and Temple’s DC is coming to replace Clancy because he’s a better recruiter. Maybe we’ll just fire Baxter and go back to not having a special teams coach. We suck at it anyway, so we might as well stop spending time on it. While we’re at it, let’s cancel the bowl practices too. No one will be watching us get boat-raced by Baylor in the Alamo or maybe lose the Holiday Bowl after the Alamo pulls every contractual ploy they can to avoid all the empty seats that will result… Read more »

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Rock,
That’s pretty much how I feel about it all right now. This board is like therapy. I shouldn’t care as much, but I do and I am disgusted with the whole thing.

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Heard the latest rumor?– Helton remains, and Bone resigns because of his hands being tied to hire a new coach.

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Sorry LJ, that’s not happening.

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What the hell is the delay now? I mean, does ANYONE at USC feel the urgency of recruiting? Signing day is TWO WEEKS away. If you’re keeping the clown show, own it and get on with it. If that’s the case, you’ve already wasted 10 days that could have been used to get staff replacements in place and visit recruits.

I guess when Bones said he wanted to impact recruiting, he wasn’t kidding.

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I haven’t heard anything yet so I guess it’s true that Helton stays because there would have been something by now. Unless the stupidest reason is waiting for a bowl invite or the PAC 12 championship.
Here’s what we look like from the outside. One news service claiming he’s gone and the next claiming their sources are saying he’s staying. But we really look like the game of “Clue ” In which case I’ll take Helton in the coliseum tunnel with the team that murdered USC football.
If nothing changes I guess I will

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I hated Carroll’s teams. I always buy scalper tickets from fans on the day of the game, and I had the hardest time finding anyone who would sell. But with Helton, I buy the cheapest ticket I can find, and then sneak into one of the thousands of 30-50 yard seats available.

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It seems more likely than not that Bone did reach out to some prospective coaches. Maybe he couldn’t find one who wanted the job.

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Or maybe he didn’t, like Haden’s famous national search fallacies.

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Maybe this, what if that. What’s your point? Try to offer something somewhat constructive for a change.

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I leave with one additional idea. The best form of protest I can think of is to now all become LSU fans. Buy an LSU shirt and write a check (no matter how small), take a selfie with it, and send it to Mike Bohn and Carol Folt. DO NOT GIVE ANY MONEY TO USC.

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WARNING: This is long. I have not posted in awhile due to apathy. But…this is just beyond the pale. Well Stanley, this is another fine mess they’ve gotten us into! All I can do is misquote comedy lines this morning. It is raining both externally and internally. I saw this last night but really had a problem actually believing it. I thought it HAD to be a prank. So many feelings (all negative) and ideas (bad in regards to USC). 1) How would you like to be one of the new suite owners in the Coliseum? Personally, I would sue… Read more »

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Refuse to believe it until it is officially announced by Mike Bohn. If so, then only the faces have changed in regards to not supporting the football program enough to win championships. Helton has to know he is totally disliked as the HC, but he could care less…..

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Just had a thought- Clay is retained – SC plays Baylor in the Alamo Bowl and gets beat by 3 TDs; in Sept, SC returns to TX To play AL and again gets beat by 3 TDs. Whence Championship SC football becomes only a distant memory.

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Not just plausible, but actually likely. Especially if Harrell is not around to call the game and Clay overthinks everything, reinstates his crappy Gumbo offense, and brings Slovis and crew to a grinding halt.

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Right, if Herman offers GH the OC position at Texas, he is a gonner.

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Good news!– I just passed through the 4-bridges of Elysian Park on the freeway, and I did not see one Trojan ready to jump.

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USC has officially become the Charlie Brown of NCAA Football. Each year now the anticipation is that CH will be gone, but Lucy (USC Admin) keeps pulling the ball away at the last minute.

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“the most unkindest cut of all,”

Julius Caeser
Act 3 Scene 2

Heavy Sigh 😔

“Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it’s much more serious than that.” – Shankly

I will watch from a distance.

It’s only a game…

Fight On!

Alabama will not be pretty…

Fight On!

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If true, it is sad. I agree with Jon Wilner. A colossal mistake. I think of NE which has yet to recover from the Bo Pelini hire. Bo was the coach from 2008 thru 2014. His records were better than Helton’s without Sam (best was 10-4 and worst was 9-4), but NE was always a tier below OSU and MI. The problem was the talent level dropped off which was a disaster for NE and Scott Frost is now trying to fix. If true, I will pass on next year for SC football. IF GH stays, the team will be… Read more »

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It’s appropriate that we’ll announce this on a dark and stormy day in LA.

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There are 11 other teams in the conference right now that are very happy. But as Jon Wilner has pointed out in the past, the conference needs a strong USC in order to thrive. This hurts the whole conference.

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I sat here and felt sick to my stomach. I guess this is where academia has overrun athletics and is now going to rule with an iron fist to make sure we know where we (fans) stand. I absolutely hate what college has become, faculties are corrupt and don’t care. What I see now is they decided to take 2020 and eat it. If Meyer feels he needs more time but would be willing, then what else can they do? A lot can happen in one year. So as this picture becomes more evident how many quality people would be… Read more »

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Clay Helton is like a zombie you shoot three times in the head and it just keeps coming at you. Somebody wake me up from this nightmare!

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Shades of the 2016 Trump upset. Now what?– Perhaps replacing the defensive and special teams’ coordinators would be a good start.

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Now what?!!! We’re f**ked. That’s “now what.”

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Now what? You ask…
Let me tell you so it’s real plain.
We’ve just joined the ranks of “Also Rans” mid pack losers, that’s what!

Bones move to revive enthusiasm in the game and practice settings will be trying to get legacy player to attend and support the coach and team….they will shun him and the program like it were radioactive ☢️

Where was Marcus Saturday, Ronnie Lott hasn’t been seen for ages.
All these guys were staples at practice and games when Pete was here.
Celebrities abounded at games, it was like Carnival Time in Rio.

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If this is true 3 things might have us where we are in this situation …..#1 Urban said NO or not right now at least (I hope ) ……#2 They do not like their other options on a replacement (or they are rolling the dice on getting Urban next year )……… #3 The buyout negotiations went nowhere .

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Have to agree with HOF. That #2 most likely happened and Bohn asked all the capable coaches and they said NO. But would add a #4 . That the total of 20 mil buyout and new salaries was too much for the budget. But most likely it was a combination of #2 and #4 that might have resulted in the keep decision. If the money was reasonable would have rolled the dice. And to put out good money after bad is worse. But sometimes is is better to just roll the dice if the future is more of the same… Read more »

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I just can’t believe that Folt and Bohner think Helton is just fine, thank you very much. I am going to wait for the words from the horse’s (ass) mouth before I believe it….

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Aren’t there also some rumors that Harrell is leaving to be the OC at Texas?

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It’s not only a local thang !
It gets national attention:

Link to Fighting Irish Wire

Dancing in the Streets: YouTube Link

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Truly a sad day. Almost a year ago I lost my father, who started my obsession with USC football. I am glad he is not here to see what has become of our team. I refused to believe this was a possibility, now this day is here.

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Thanks for the info…..I’ve been waiting to post regarding the decision to retain Gomer. Everyone is posting it so it must be true. Its been fun. My wife and I are moving back east to be closer to my kids after the end of the year. TV coverage back there of USC is shaky and untimely even in these days of internet access and 10 channels covering college football. Most games last well past my east coast bedtime. For those of us that love college football back there they have Ohio State, Michigan, Bama, Georgia etc etc. I’ll always treasure… Read more »

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Folt checking out that man on national TV….

Illinois, did I miss something about our little Napoleon president?

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Tomorrow might be a really sad day for me. Something that I care greatly about and am invested in may just go away. I became a USC fan at the age of 8 when my great uncle chuck took me to my first game. USC football has been a passion ever since. But I certainly won’t be fooled again. If the administration doesn’t care about football then how can I? I don’t want to invest time, money, and passion into something that I know only cares half heartedly.

Sad day indeed

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I am very surprised that HC Helton is being retained..We just got a top OL from Texas to commit..so that’s good, but we still need to get more strong recruits for early signing day on December 18th..the fan base will be upset, and our recruiting has already been impacted negatively for the class of 2020 and 2021…

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We have pedestrian 3 star offense linemen The kid from Texas is not a big get. We have officially become Vanderbilt University. You can kiss good bye our storied football program. Retaining Helton will forever doomed the program for many years to come.