Flexibility, Bye Weeks, Delay & Speculation Mark Potential Pac-12 Season

Jon Wilner  (OC Register)  —  Pegged by many in college football as the conference most likely to cancel its fall season, the Pac-12 is plowing forward with plans for a 10-game conference-only schedule.

The official announcement, with weekly matchups, is expected no later than the end of next week.

But the Hotline has pieced together the framework of the preferred model based on information provided by sources familiar with the plan.

Considering the coronavirus case counts and curve trajectories in several areas of the Pac-12 footprint, it’s a fairly aggressive approach that spans a maximum of 14 weeks beginning in the middle of September.

“They are assuming some success in the next month or two (against the virus),” one source said.

The conference canceled all non-conference games on July 10, one day after the Big Ten made the move.

(The SEC, ACC and Big 12 are working on ‘plus’ models, by which they play a full slate of conference games and at least one non-conference opponent.)

But the Pac-12’s football planning group, which includes athletic directors, coaches and directors of football operations, has been modeling conference-only schedules for months and is in regular contact with the conference’s coronavirus advisory committee.

At least a half-dozen models have received consideration in recent weeks, sources said.

The final version, to be unveiled next week, will require approval by presidents and chancellors.

It is expected to include the following:

*** A 10-game regular-season, with each team playing its division opponents and five crossover games.

The conference has nine-game schedules ready and could switch to that model if the presidents prefer a more conservative approach or if public health circumstances dictate a change.

“They want to be as flexible as possible, so they aren’t eliminating the nine-game option,” a source said.

*** Season openers have been scheduled for Sept. 19, or what would have been Week Three on the original 2020 calendar.

The start date gives the conference time to ride out the current coronavirus surges; teams would not start formal training camp until the middle of August.

That phase of the process will require approval from health officials.

“The problem is that Utah and Los Angeles have very different situations; Washington and Washington State have very different situations,” a source said.

“So some of it will be up to the public health people.”

*** At least two bye weeks are built into the lineup, creating windows for games that cannot be played as scheduled.

The Hotline was unable to confirm when those byes will be slotted into the months of October and November.

But sources said the conference also is allowing for a cushion in early December, at the end of the revised regular season.

*** The Pac-12 championship at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas could be played on any of three weekends.

It was originally scheduled for Friday, Dec. 4, and that remains an option under a best-case scenario.

But if that weekend is needed for makeup games — for example: if the teams cannot play the openers on Sept. 19 — the conference has secured the option to stage the championship on the weekend of Dec. 11-12.

And if that weekend is also needed for makeups, the title game could get pushed back to the weekend of Dec. 18-19.

The date “will depend if they flex weeks,” a source said.

The pliable date for the championship is the result of flexibility with the bowl schedule.

ESPN, which owns the vast majority of bowl games, has the option to move them around like chess pieces — they could be rescheduled for January, if necessary.

The Pac-12’s primary concern with setting Dec. 19 as the latest possible date for its championship game was the College Football Playoff.

If the event goes off as scheduled, with semifinals at the Rose and Sugar bowls on New Year’s Day, the Pac-12 wanted any potential participant to have two weeks to prepare.

ocregister.com

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ATL D.D.S.
Diamond Member
July 29, 2020 6:12 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

We are trying to build a racing team with lots of great equipment and drivers, but pencil pushers and woke SJW are making the ultimate decisions–think Ford v. Ferrari, but w/o the SJW part. That PC hoohah hadn’t been invented in the mid-60’s.

Instead of the best driver “available” for our F-40 team (retired OSU coach, anyone?) we have a failed driver from the go-kart circuit (Helton).

ATL D.D.S.
Diamond Member
July 29, 2020 2:17 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

If you remember, Ford beat Ferrari after Carroll Shelby took Mr. Ford for a terrifying ride in the F-40. After that, Shelby had thoroughly convinced Mr. Ford that a racing team striving for victory over a proven champion was no place for bean counters and Madison Avenue P R flacks. In Folt, Caruso and Helton, our team is still being run by PC SJW’s and bean counters (Folt and Caruso) and Clay Helton is certainly no Ken Miles as a driver.

ATL D.D.S.
Diamond Member
July 30, 2020 4:43 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

I think we both liked that movie! I don’t suspect foul play on Miles’ death, but at the end of the movie right after the Le Mans victory, Miles was already talking to Shelby about new modifications to the next F-40. Miles was a mechanic/designer who happened to like driving cars right to their edge of control. I suspect mechanical failure in the next F-40 prototype. Maybe the hush-hush was Ford’s lawyers idea to reduce chances of a lawsuit?

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Jamaica
Knighted Member
July 29, 2020 4:16 pm
Reply to  ATL D.D.S.

Absolutely ATLDDS, At the end, Ford wanted a corporate-political finish at Le Mans with all Fords crossing the finish line together and take away the rightful glory who deserved the victory. If Folt and or Caruso were playing to win, why would they limit Bohn in how much he could overhaul a mediocre-outright dismal football operation. You either play to win, or you have administrative micromanagers who are satisfied agenda-wise in just grabbing the TV money laying around and ignoring a proud past..

TrojanRJJ
Diamond Member
July 29, 2020 12:38 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

I think this point doves tails with the below point. The power of SC is its ability to place kids in the NFL. And, that takes both talent and coaching. Clay so obviously incompetent at talent development (probably the worst in Power 5 by a significant factor) that the elite kids fled him like the plague (pulling out the Yary kid, the 2019-2020 class was probably the worst in the Pac and bad even for a Mountain West team). Turning Clay into the water boy has helped some in recruiting, but I agree that the only way to really turn… Read more »

TrojanRJJ
Diamond Member
July 29, 2020 2:07 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Allen, we agree on Jack Yary. He was at best a middle of the road 3 star who will have to develop. My point was that he moved the class ranking up, not that he should have been recruited. It was a testimony to Clay’s incompetence that Jack was one of its stars. We also totally agree on Bohn. He is a very good AD, light years ahead of all three of his predecessors. And, I admit, President Mao hired him. I hope you are reading her correctly – and I also hope the SC athletic department lost a ton… Read more »

ATL D.D.S.
Diamond Member
July 29, 2020 2:25 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

As far as President Mao getting kudos for hiring Bohn, I don’t think it was anything more than a case of a broken clock being correct twice a day. If anything, Bohn will prove to be too effective an AD. By his adept leadership of USC Athletics and Football, he will interfere with her plans to minimize intercollegiate sports (especially football) and he may be forced out by Mao.

Jamaica
Knighted Member
July 29, 2020 4:24 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

If Bohn left or was forced out as AD, you would probably see a career administrative worker from a non-football school like a Dan Guerrero.

ATL D.D.S.
Diamond Member
July 29, 2020 2:19 pm
Reply to  TrojanRJJ

You called Folt President Mao!😜

gametv
Active Member
July 29, 2020 10:28 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

well said. the problem at SC has been that Helton hired incompetent staff and expected that the advantages of SC’s recruiting prowess would deliver superior athletes that would win games despite poor coaching. he has proven that a great legacy quickly wears thin and that great coaches win, in recruiting and on the field.

this is a coach who abused his position at the university. helton damaged the future prospects of his players.

the current coaching staff is much better than in the past, but in some cases, still not up to the level that SC should attain.

Terrific Tommy
Diamond Member
July 28, 2020 5:47 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Personally Allen, I would rather have the Pac-12 presidents meeting to hire a new commissioner. 👌

ATL D.D.S.
Diamond Member
July 28, 2020 7:16 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Well said, Allen. Very few ucla alums can be as classy as Regis was about ND.

rleeholder1
Noble Member
July 29, 2020 7:15 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

R.I.P. Regis. A classy guy all the way around!

Terrific Tommy
Diamond Member
July 28, 2020 7:30 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Incredible numbers for a rookie — or even for a senior for that matter. 

rleeholder1
Noble Member
July 29, 2020 7:20 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

What I like about Kedon Slovis is his poise and accuracy. Uncanny for a freshman last year. During this virus pandemic, I’ve watched a lot of old SC games on U-Tube TV. It’s interesting to me how the completion percentage of today’s players like Slovis are so much better than in the past.

TrojanRJJ
Diamond Member
July 27, 2020 2:01 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

Thanks for reminding us just how bad a HC Helton is. The results of his efforts was the 2020 recruiting class, which minus the 3 star Yary kid, is probably not even top 100. And, I totally agree with your take that SC needs Bohn a lot more that Bohn needs SC. Assuming SC plays this fall (we both agree that is at best 50/50), the success of the team will be determined in large part by how well Bohn can isolate Clay from the football end of the program and let Todd Orlando (and his entirely new staff) set… Read more »

rleeholder1
Noble Member
July 28, 2020 9:11 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

If the season plays out and Bru McCoy plays, I think he could be on Feldman’s list. We shall see.

alfa1
Diamond Member
July 27, 2020 10:09 am

Of all people…Bill Maher offers an opinion I concur with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28I5WyLp15o

ATL D.D.S.
Diamond Member
July 28, 2020 1:36 pm
Reply to  alfa1

That was great by Bill Maher–until he turned into Bill Maher, illogical liberal at his last line.

Steveg
Mt Rushmore
July 27, 2020 8:14 am

Have any of the great minds running the pac12 stated the benefit of cancelling all out of conference games? It still makes no sense especially the fact we play two of the outstanding programs in the nation, who have covid19 covered. Academia still baffles me.

Golden Trojan
Diamond Member
July 27, 2020 8:36 am
Reply to  Steveg

I would guess the decision was to make the schedule fair for all. USC going to Texas to play Alabama or Michigan going to Washington, is much more of a virus risk than Utah playing BYU or CU playing CSU. Getting rid of some meant getting rid of all. Overall it makes sense from a scheduling standpoint. But Washington teams playing Arizona teams is probably just as much of a health risk as any of the out of conference games. The “great minds” have to look like they are doing something. I will still be surprised if we see college… Read more »

Steveg
Mt Rushmore
July 27, 2020 10:18 am
Reply to  Golden Trojan

If you think about it, these players are in a bubble. They fly on a sanitized plane, stay in sanitized rooms, play in an empty stadium then fly on a sanitized plane back home, where they either get infected or stay in the bubble. It still makes no logical sense to me. Travel from So Cal to WA is less dangerous that flying from South Bend to So Cal? Can’t see it.

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TrojanRJJ
Diamond Member
July 27, 2020 2:04 pm
Reply to  Steveg

Steve, I concur. How did cancelling a home game against ND decrease Covid risk but playing a home game against ASU is OK? Makes zero sense. Again, weak leadership at both the conference level and at the major schools. But, then, I think the Pac does not play football in 2020, so it is a “tempest in a teapot.”

Terrific Tommy
Diamond Member
July 27, 2020 5:31 pm
Reply to  Allen Wallace

One can only hope Allen. And not playing the Irish, in LA, is beyond the stupid. Don’t these jerks understand tradition — and how a storied national rivalry helps the Pac-12 Image.

TrojanRJJ
Diamond Member
July 28, 2020 9:12 am
Reply to  Allen Wallace

I think you nailed it. SC football seems cursed. When SC football had the backing of the administration, it had totally incompetent ADs (I think Haden was the 2nd worst I can recall and Swann by far the worst); now that it has a competent AD (and I agree, Bohn is very good), it has an administration that is hopelessly ideological and seems bent on destruction and replacement of the Trojan Family culture, centered around elite football. If Bohn had backing, I think he would have taken on the Conference, but I doubt he has that backing. Really odd times.… Read more »

Jamaica
Knighted Member
July 26, 2020 3:40 pm

As the numbers of cases involving COVID-19 rises and the deaths continue to mount up, State Governors are just one step away in causing a domino effect shutting down all organized sporting activities in their States for the rest of this year. Until everyone, and I mean practically everyone, takes this virus seriously enough to practice safe precautions, COVID-19 is going to spread until an effective vaccination finally arrives.

Golden Trojan
Diamond Member
July 27, 2020 8:42 am
Reply to  Jamaica

Funny how all the people who automatically put on a seat belt, motorcycle helmet and drive on the right side of the road now feel officials have no right to tell them to wear a face covering. Just do the kind, caring, right thing for the benefit of others. People are crazy!

Bobbo
Diamond Member
July 27, 2020 8:52 am
Reply to  Jamaica

Take it ‘seriously’? As in looking at the data scientifically? Fact: under 25 year olds have more chance of dying from flu/puemonia than Coronavirus. Fact: Coronavirus is almost impossible to contract outside. Fact: As of last week, 42% of deaths were in nursing homes. Fact: Since the avg age of contracting the virus has gone from 65 years old to 35 years old (and health issues really only become greater at 55 years old), the deaths are not really a problem. This is herd immunity in action. Fact: Hydroxy chloriquine can be given VERY safely as a profilactic to prevent… Read more »

TrojanRJJ
Diamond Member
July 27, 2020 2:13 pm
Reply to  Jamaica

Jamaica, I detest Bill Maher, but he got this one right. The link is provided by Alfa above. While I concur completely masks in public and social distancing make a ton of sense, particularly the masks, we need to be realistic about this virus. Per data posted by Bobbo, the kids playing football are at greater risk of death from the flu than Covid. By the way, I read that India had stemmed Covid in its slums by preventive use of hyrocloriquine. Given the political climate in the US, that is impossible as the media has associated that drug with… Read more »

rleeholder1
Noble Member
July 25, 2020 7:40 am

I read that Washington State would be the one game added to USC’s conference schedule if the PAC-12 moves to a 10-game format. I would prefer the “plus one” model be the Notre Dame game in the Coliseum.